** and ** are both carrying badges now!

[mtneer1212]

Whenever the books give me a female name to send to, and I start getting the third degree from the agent, I tell the agent it is for a woman I got pregnant in Nicarauga (or Costa Rica, Philippines, wherever I am sending) during my last vacation, but please don't tell my wife.

That usually ends the questioning.

[lovetobet]

Glad I did a search on this before I left for lunch to go fund my 5Dimes account.

I funded my 5 Dimes account twice in late April/early May of this year. I used Money Gram, I sent over the $799 threshhold each time and thus they needed ID verification, thus real name, address and phone numbers used (figured I had to if they were checking ID). I honestly didn't think it was that big of a deal for a couple of dimes total going into play.

I was just about to go fund 5 dimes again through **. Was going to break the $799 threshold again but could stay under that if you guys think I could give fake information. I could just do a couple of transactions over the next few days/weeks under the threshold to get to my desired amount.

Do you guys that have good knowledge of this really think it's an issue??? I have a real job, pay taxes, am good enough gambler to win some but not that much, you can imagine the amounts if my bank is less than $5G's in total. Do you really think it's an issue?

Both of those times they had me sending money to the Philipines not South America.

What about **?

Seems like in general using fake names and phone numbers is kind of sketchy if something happens to your money how do you prove it yours? I have a throw away phone and could use the number from that.

Curious what you guys think/are doing?

Do you think wire transfers are safer (I know they take longer, but shit then they have all your information through your bank account)?

My buddy funded 5Dimes 2 days ago by Credit Card, that obviously is easily traceable although he's a smaller player.

So what do you guys think?

[lovetobet]

This is not true. What most people don't realize about online/offshore gambling is that it's actually not illegal to place a bet. What IS illegal is the act of funding your account at an offshore book for the purpose of gambling. (Take the time to read The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act) Furthermore, most people don't realize that even though this was passed in 2006, it didn't actually take full effect till this year. Anyone wonder why all of a sudden now, within the last few months, US players virtually can't use a CC to fund your account any longer? So **/** can't afford any longer to turn a blind eye. It's because all financial instutions and processors now know the government is going to be on their asses and if they're not vigilant when processing suspicious transactions, then they can be fined/shut down as a known accomplice to this illegal activity. Now yes, it can be a gray area, for instance, what if you really want to send your friend Juan Pablo Carlos Pena in Costa Rica $300? So yes, they can ask questions to "feel you out" and make sure it's a legimitate transaction and if they believe it is for illegal purposes they can refuse your business. I use ** about 2-3 times a month, always with the same sender info, and AS OF YET have not had a problem. I try to be as vague as possible if and when they ask me questions and I don't say anything stupid. But keep in mind these changes with banks/credit card companys/**/** just took fulll effect, so withinn a few months it's only going to get harder to fund your account, especially for players you make a lot of transactions. But lucky for us there is too much $$$ at stake for the books to not find a way for us to fund our accounts

So your using **, when you say the same sender info, is that real info or fake info????

If it's fake, how does that work for your payouts? I need to get this figured out for football, since this is where I make the most money.

[ehp6737]

So your using **, when you say the same sender info, is that real info or fake info????

If it's fake, how does that work for your payouts? I need to get this figured out for football, since this is where I make the most money.

I only use my real info. I don't feel comfortable using fake info in case something goes wrong. How do I prove It was actually my money? But keep in mind I don't go over the threshold. In your case and you are then I would really suggest sending a bank/certified check overnight. Your right, you dont want them having your banking info, so don't do bankwire. Now what I said before was not to worry you or give you the impression the FBI or IRS is going to be knocking down your door. It was to refute the comment of another poster saying that **/** doesn't care where it's going and that indeed they can be suspicious and ask questions at the point of contact. So don't worry you have nothing to worry about. But def dont do 5 smaller ** transactions to keep it below threshold. Frequency is a red flag just as much as one large transfer

[lovetobet]

EPH - thanks for your input.

If you're giving your real info and I'm giving my real info. then I'm not sure the threshold makes any difference. Like I said I'm depositing a dime or two not 10 or 20. So the fact they ask for my ID doesn't seem to make a difference since I'm giving them real info. and so are you. What do you think about this?

I fully understood/understand what you were saying before about the IRS/FBI. The 2 times I sent money before, I was polite, dressed casually but not sloppily, was on a nice side of town and didn't have any issues or questions asked. The manager even came up to make sure it went smooth, not to be nosy, they know me there anyway and figure what's the difference if I'm using real info., because I knew they wouldn't ask me any questions.

I see your using **, do you know if they ask for ID above a certain threshold, I'm pretty sure ** is above $799. Anyone know this? Not sure if this really matters if your using real information anyways.

I'd appreciate input from anyone else, I will definitely finish this process by posting to this thread about how it went for me.

[ehp6737]

I think your over thinking it now. As far as how your dressed or what side of town your going is irrelevant. But to answer your question, threshold with ** is $999. Now yes, I do use my real info, so why does it matter if I go over or not? Because when it's over threshold it's scrutinzed more by ** and can affect your ability to conduct future transactions of the same nature with them. Let me ask you, why do you think there is a threshold? It's a redflag (not by itself, but can be down the road with future transactions). Keep in mind ya'll I'm talking in the here and now, not what you were able to do 4 years ago or even 4 months ago. June is when enforcement took place. If it's no big deal to send over 1K than why do they ask for ID?

Do $990 with ** and $800 with **, split it up

[lovetobet]

No, wasn't over thinking it, just threw that in because I thought it might be helpful to others, in regard to not being asked any questions. I knew because of my approach and the place I went, I would not be asked a single question regardless of how much I was transferring, where you and others had mentioned being asked questions, I knew I wouldn't be asked any questions.

As far as your other points, I think you're dead on. I am going to stay under the thresholds and use ** once and ** once and then maybe 1 of them one more time if i have to, but I'll wait a week or two and that should hopefully get me where I need to be roll wise for the season. I think you're dead on in regards to the ID and red flags and even if you're not better to be smart and careful then dumb and caught.

I have family in Europe and go there once or twice a year, I think I'm going to have to work something out with my brother-in-law and work with Pinnacle, this is becoming a real pain in the ass.

Thanks for the input ehp.

So do you know for sure the ID threshhold with ** is under $1,000? Do you put in $999 or go like $900 or $950, this seems a little smarter.

[patswin]

Agree with others this is really becoming the only way of funding accts these days. I am surprised that others use fake names when sending, as I always use my name when i send just in case something goes wrong. I have had several problems over the last few months that i had to call in and get straighetend out.- one time the clerk put the funds in another currency, had problems with the spelling of names also. Just this week had a book give me a name that was for the other transfer service, had to go back to the store to get it corrected. What a pain in the ass

[ehp6737]

No, wasn't over thinking it, just threw that in because I thought it might be helpful to others, in regard to not being asked any questions. I knew because of my approach and the place I went, I would not be asked a single question regardless of how much I was transferring, where you and others had mentioned being asked questions, I knew I wouldn't be asked any questions.

As far as your other points, I think you're dead on. I am going to stay under the thresholds and use ** once and ** once and then maybe 1 of them one more time if i have to, but I'll wait a week or two and that should hopefully get me where I need to be roll wise for the season. I think you're dead on in regards to the ID and red flags and even if you're not better to be smart and careful then dumb and caught.

I have family in Europe and go there once or twice a year, I think I'm going to have to work something out with my brother-in-law and work with Pinnacle, this is becoming a real pain in the ass.

Thanks for the input ehp.

So do you know for sure the ID threshhold with ** is under $1,000? Do you put in $999 or go like $900 or $950, this seems a little smarter.

Yes, threshold is $999 for **. I would go $950 or $975.

[WileOut]

sorry nm

[scott235]

Whenever the books give me a female name to send to, and I start getting the third degree from the agent, I tell the agent it is for a woman I got pregnant in Nicarauga (or Costa Rica, Philippines, wherever I am sending) during my last vacation, but please don't tell my wife.

That usually ends the questioning.

Hilarious.

[Brock Landers]

Especially when all you do is make deposits and never recieve a payout.

i've made 3 videos recently of getting payouts smart ass

[sharpcat]

The OP in this thread is acting like a child.

3 biggest mistakes degenerates make:

- Attempt to send funds online Get off of your lazy ass drive down the street to the liqour store and do it problem solved no questions because you do not look suspicious.

- Stop sending $150 6 times a month Build up a bankroll and send $2000 you should not be gambling period if you can not afford to send at least $1000.

- Use cash or debit card if you do not have cash you should not be gambling and ** will definately bug you for identification and want to know what the money is for (it is not ** it is the UIGEA law passed by the US govt.)

Problem solved I have been doing this for a very long time and have never had any problems with ** or ** except 1 time when I tried to do it online.

[scott235]

Anybody on the board work for ** or **? I know that they do transfers for undocumented immigrants and look the other way, even with DL's that look like they were done in a fourth grade art class. I just find it hard to believe that they want to turn away this money. My guess is that over time they will become less vigilant about gambling transfers....they know what butters their bread.

[THEGREAT30]

You guys post things that should not be posted in open forums. Amateur lame idiots.

[scott235]

You guys post things that should not be posted in open forums. Amateur lame idiots.

I understand your point, and the reason for writing this - however, restricting the open flow of information on the forum will in the long run not be good for anyone, and thus make this forum useless