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  • tommygun
    SBR MVP
    • 07-01-10
    • 2239

    #1
    Bet 365 Mislead Customers---They've done it again!
    This doesn't seem to have been widely reported. This appears to be the third complaint in less than 12 months that has been made about them to and upheld by the ASA (see article at the bottom).

    http://asa.org.uk/Complaints-and-ASA...ADJ_48858.aspx

    ASA Adjudication on Hillside (New Media) Ltd t/a bet365

    Date: 4 August 2010
    Media:Internet (sales promotion)
    Sector:Leisure
    Number of complaints:1
    Complaint Ref:122179

    Ad
    A banner ad for a betting website, which appeared on three successive screens, stated "bet365 JOIN NOW ... £200 FREE BETS FOR NEW CUSTOMERS ... NO1 FOR SPORTS".

    Issue
    The complainant challenged whether the ad was misleading because:

    1. it did not make clear that new customers could only claim £200 in free bets if they staked a significant amount of their own money first; and

    2. it did not make clear that free bet participants could only withdraw winnings if a number of conditions were met first.

    CAP Code
    7.17.234.1a

    Response
    1. & 2. Bet356 Group Ltd (Bet365) said that market research conducted by the industry had shown that UK customers were comfortable with "free bet" terminology and that they understood that such offers were subject to terms and conditions and qualifications. They explained that many of their competitors used the same or very similar terminology and provided screenshots of other online gambling providers websites which referred to "free bets" .

    They argued that banner ads were limited by space and believed that, for the purposes of the CAP Code, a "marketing communication" in this context should be interpreted as meaning a banner ad which was supplemented by separate terms and conditions. They said the nature of the banner ad meant that a limited amount of information could be captured on it but, in any event, consumers were unable to sign up to the "free bets" offer without first having the opportunity to view the relevant terms and conditions. They said they had taken steps to make sure this information was clearly available to consumers.

    Assessment

    1. & 2 Upheld

    The ASA noted the terms and conditions on the Bet365 website stated that the "free bet" would match the amount of the new customers first deposit provided that deposit was between £10 and £200. We therefore understood that, in order to receive the £200 of free bets referred to in the ad, new customers were required to deposit £200 of their own money. We also understood that the terms and conditions required new customers to bet their initial deposit and matching free bet amounts on three separate occasions before they could then withdraw any cash winnings that had been awarded to their accounts during this process. Furthermore, we noted all of these bets needed to be made within 90 days or any winnings that were in the account would be forfeited.

    We acknowledged that some experienced gamblers were likely to be familiar with the "free bets" terminology and would expect terms and conditions to apply to the offer. However, we noted the ad targeted new customers and considered that, although the ad appeared on a gambling website, there was nothing to prevent inexperienced or new gamblers who were not familiar with the terminology from visiting the site and wanting to take part in the offer.

    We considered that the terms and conditions attached to the "free bets" were significant and were likely to affect a consumers decision about whether to sign up to Bet365; we noted the banner ad did not state that terms and conditions applied. Furthermore, although we understood the terms and conditions themselves were available on the website for all customers, we noted this information was not signposted in the banner ad itself and was not available until after the landing page. We considered that, in order to be displayed sufficiently clearly, significant conditions likely to affect a consumers decision to participate in the promotion should have been displayed in the banner ad itself or no further than one click-through away from it. We also considered that the banner should have signposted that terms and conditions applied. We concluded that, because the terms and conditions of the "free bet" offer were not displayed with sufficient prominence, the ad was likely to mislead.

    On these points the ad breached CAP Code clauses 7.1, 7.2 (Truthfulness) and 34.1a (Sales promotion rules - how to participate).

    Action
    The ad should not appear again in its current form. We told Bet365 to ensure that terms and conditions for "free bet" offers were only one-click from banner ads in the future.

    Adjudication of the ASA Council (Non-broadcast)


    http://gamingintelligence.com/index....ree-bets-claim

    ASA bans third Bet365 ad over misleading free bets claim
    Wednesday, 04 August 2010 08:02

    The UK Advertising Standards Authority has upheld a complaint against an internet banner ad for online gambling operator Bet365.com which was found likely to mislead customers over the terms and conditions of its free bets - the third time in ten months that a Bet365 ad promoting free bets has been banned.
    BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.

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  • Mudcat
    Restricted User
    • 07-21-05
    • 9287

    #2
    Very silly complaint IMO. No one puts all the fine print and conditions in a banner ad. A quick glance to the top of this page shows that almost every banner is saying something that has conditions that are not fully spelled out. The information is on the website.

    If people really were dumb enough to think that no deposit/rollovers would be required for a 200 pounds bonus, then they would sign up and be straightened out. Big deal. It's not like it would cost them anything. They get a free lesson in reality.

    With all the real complaints out there, I hate to see time being wasted on something like this.
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    • cap10
      SBR Sharp
      • 09-15-07
      • 494

      #3
      365 will punt u if u start winning regulary;; they must show a profit on the uk stock exchange;;will never get another cent from me;; best software i have used so far tho;;gl
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      • fixxer
        SBR MVP
        • 09-13-05
        • 1877

        #4
        What a silly complaint....when you register to a bookie, READ THE TERMS....at least the important ones....

        And if you want to take part in any promotions, you MUST read the promotional terms.

        Btw, many bookie advertises as "giving free bets", so this is not an unique case
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        • AimingHigh
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 06-12-09
          • 670

          #5
          Stupid complaint. Sounds like a complainant has a thing with Bet365 (banned punter's revenge, perhaps? LOL), given that this is the third successful complaint made against Bet365 in a year, and for pretty silly reasons. What average consumer would really waste their time complaining over something like this?
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          • chachi
            SBR MVP
            • 02-16-07
            • 4571

            #6
            Muppets ... the ASA effectively had no choice but to uphold it due to the arcane advertising regulations, but unless Bet365 used a 1px font size nothing of real value about the T&Cs could be shown in the banner, and as they argued, all of the UK bookies advertise similarly.
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            • LGBoots
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 08-10-05
              • 742

              #7
              Stupid thing is Bet365 bonus T&c's are one of the softest ones around with their odds

              Anyone with half a brain could rip through the W/R in no time.
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              • chachi
                SBR MVP
                • 02-16-07
                • 4571

                #8
                Probably some knuckle-dragger type Chelsea wide boy who get quickly limited taking a parting shot ...
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                • tommygun
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-01-10
                  • 2239

                  #9
                  you idiots, I wasn't burnt by bet365 simply posted this for info.
                  BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.

                  Soccer Tipping: 5-0-1
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                  • -105
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 07-20-10
                    • 208

                    #10
                    I was pissed when i deposited and read "mlb doesn't count" I simply lost my buy in and never went back, still have the bonus pending
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                    • chachi
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-16-07
                      • 4571

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tommygun
                      you idiots, I wasn't burnt by bet365 simply posted this for info.
                      Was talking about the muppet who raised the complaint with the ASA, not you
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                      • kkkkk
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 03-30-09
                        • 523

                        #12
                        who uses bet365 still ?
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                        • Ruifgalmeida
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-23-08
                          • 2024

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kkkkk
                          who uses bet365 still ?
                          I do, never had a complain with them, they have some pretty good markets that you cant find anywhere. quick withdraws and live betting for all of soccer games.Never got limited but I never got big winnings there.
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                          • chachi
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-16-07
                            • 4571

                            #14
                            Same here ... no limit issues, quick payers, occasional generous bonuses, what's not to like ?
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                            • nenad
                              Restricted User
                              • 08-12-09
                              • 714

                              #15
                              i use bet365 still but they are silly
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                              • tommygun
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-01-10
                                • 2239

                                #16
                                Originally posted by chachi
                                Was talking about the muppet who raised the complaint with the ASA, not you
                                Whoops
                                BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.

                                Soccer Tipping: 5-0-1
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                                • chachi
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-16-07
                                  • 4571

                                  #17
                                  Hehehe
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                                  • ohbrother
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 06-15-09
                                    • 10

                                    #18
                                    Definitely stupid this one. I think a previous complaint wasn't though.
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                                    • chachi
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-16-07
                                      • 4571

                                      #19
                                      Ummm, wasn't the last one that someone couldn't figure out that a 4x equated to needing to potentially deposit another 3x the initial deposit amount to be allowed to withdraw the bonus if they bet and lost the deposit straight away?
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                                      • necro
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-07-09
                                        • 1633

                                        #20
                                        what a joke
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