This is an email after 1 bet (that lost)

sundin4prez · 08-14-10, 02:17 PM

what?

what book is this?

-105 · 08-14-10, 02:19 PM

Linesmaker.com. I found the site, deposited , bet, lost then 4 days later this email. I know 0 people that play on this site.

CrimsonQueen · 08-14-10, 02:25 PM

They are rated C-...which is probably why you know 0 people that play there...

bookie · 08-14-10, 02:32 PM

Must have had you in a winner's database and it took a couple of days to get you cross-referenced.

mathdotcom · 08-14-10, 02:41 PM

Linesmaker limits everyone quickly it seems, as does hailmary.

Just w/d your money as soon as you can and move it to a different book in the family like iwager, sports.com, mysportsbook.com, brobury, hollywood. I think hollywood is the best of the list.

stikymess · 08-14-10, 02:41 PM

What's this world coming to? I mean you lose then still get kicked in the gut. Unreal. I think in time we are all going to have to move to Vegas.

Bill Dozer · 08-14-10, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by -105

Linesmaker.com. I found the site, deposited , bet, lost then 4 days later this email. I know 0 people that play on this site.

Do you play at other Sportsbook.com hosted books? They might have you profiled already.

HedgeHog · 08-14-10, 02:55 PM

Could have been worse. If you won the bet, they could have confiscated your money due to multiple accounts (if you have any other Sportsbook related accounts) or for just appearing sharp. Not like it hasn't happened before.

-105 · 08-14-10, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

Do you play at other Sportsbook.com hosted books? They might have you profiled already.

Profilled as what? a big loser everybook related to linesmaker.com has taken my money and enjoyed it. Deposited on every skin and lost. I don't understand how cutting me when i have no money in the account and losing 100% of my bets is the thing to do.

joe blow · 08-14-10, 03:23 PM

If u don't mind answering...what was the amt you deposited there?

joe blow · 08-14-10, 03:24 PM

"i have no money in the account"

Nevermind

-105 · 08-14-10, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by joe blow

If u don't mind answering...what was the amt you deposited there?

1200 and change it became 1579 with the 25% signup bonus

HedgeHog · 08-14-10, 03:56 PM

They probably didn't like the fact you used your deposit and their bonus money to make a one-time bet. I'm guessing you offset or possibly scalped this bet elsewhere and picked up some easy cash.

mathdotcom · 08-14-10, 03:57 PM

I had the exact same thing happen to me at linesmaker and hailmary.

I've deposited/withdrawn and made hundreds of bets at probably 9 other jazette books and they haven't touched my limits. I've also made multiple max bets at 4-5 jazette books several times and they haven't said anything. I realize that is risky but I consider it to be worth taking. Other books I definitely would not do that, such as SBG and Royal.

katstale · 08-14-10, 04:02 PM

I agree with the all in and/or the amt bet indicated a scalp. not saying they should have panicked, but many books do.

durito · 08-14-10, 04:09 PM

They cut me to $1.

-105 · 08-14-10, 04:16 PM

Bottom line

linesmaker.com +1200
-105 -1200

I didn't scalp or lay off the bet at another jazette book. When i play with that group of books I only have one active account at a time. My game plan is always the same buy in , bet, bet , bet , I haven't won enough to bother cashing out (10k, got to 9k one time) > I clear the rollover in a matter of days and keep betting. Not a bonus scam. What I learned from betphoenix and linesmaker now is don't bet big on good prices. Make small bets on long shots and only take bad numbers if you want south american action.

I took the 100mph throwing over priced rookie to win less than 1000 .

HedgeHog · 08-14-10, 07:36 PM

Most books that offer a bonus won't let you go all in with their bonus money included. Typically they limit your plays to 20-25% of your balance--- if that. They caught their mistake a little late. This is why the Sportsbook brand of Books steal--because they are too dumb to have the proper checks and balances in place. Instead of correcting their software, they decide to steal from the sharps. Luckily you lost.

mathdotcom · 08-14-10, 07:54 PM

I don't know of a book that sets its limits based on your deposit. Their limits are their limits. Yes, if you make an all-in bet it will very likely attract attention, but if a book's limits on sides are $5k and you deposit $1000 for $1500 they don't limit you to $250-$500 bets.

Whether or not to make an all-in bet depends on how badly they will cut your limits if they cut. Some books lower you from 5k to 2k. This is fine by me. But if I think they'll drop me from $5k to $100, then I don't go anywhere near an all-in or max bet. You did the right thing in this case because I was limited after making a single bet that wasn't close to an all-in or max bet. Just bet it out and go to another Jazette book (Hollywood is very juicy right now).

HedgeHog · 08-14-10, 08:23 PM

RebateWager and Heritage are two for sure (both increased my limits after the RO), and there are others. But make no mistake about it, no book wants to give a bonus with a one and done bettor. It's -Ev for the Book and apparently Sportsbook.com and their shit affiliates are finally figuring it out.

Birre · 08-15-10, 12:30 AM

Well linesmaker closed my account 24h after I created my account and deposited funds (no wagers made). They said they "reviewed" my account and closed it lol (management decision). Never wanted to tell me why, only because of security issues...

I have deposited and accounts verified with pokerstars, partypoker etc and they never closed my account.
+ I think the security department is much better over there.

So their explanation of security issue is just bullsh*t

They probably waited 24h before hoping I would make a bet, void it if it won, close my account after it lost.

So beware!

Hareeba! · 08-15-10, 03:26 AM

most books dislike and discourage arbers
that amount of that bet is a dead give-away

RickySteve · 08-15-10, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

most books dislike and discourage arbers

They love and encourage Sportpunter donkeys, however.

Hareeba! · 08-15-10, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by RickySteve

They love and encourage Sportpunter donkeys, however.

paid me a good salary for seven years

sq764 · 08-15-10, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by -105

Dear -105,
This is just a short note to inform you that your wagering limits have been lowered as per management decision. Your new limits are as follows:
A maximum of $250.00 across the board for MLB Wagers.
Please note that, per house rules, Management reserves the right to refuse or limit any wager.
Should you require further assistance or information, please reply to this message or chat live by clicking the link below. Your reference ID for this email is LKT6197065352X ; please quote this number in any further communication on this subject.

Straight Wager 08/10/10 11:28 ET
bet 1,579.37 to win 872.58 Result: Wager Lost
Marlins(Florida) Sanchez 8
Nationals(Washington) Strasburg 2
08/10/10(19:05 ET)
Nationals(Washington) -181

thats pretty hilarious.. but betting washington at any point is mildly insane

DaProfessor23 · 08-15-10, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by sq764

thats pretty hilarious.. but betting washington at any point is mildly insane

i co-sign this

RichardGeorge · 08-15-10, 08:28 PM

I was thinking... there is nothing at all sharp about taking Strasburg, right of the DL, as a -180 fav.

If I was in charge of the lines at a book, i would ENCOURAGE that kind of bet.

sq764 · 08-16-10, 08:37 AM

I mean do they simply have something that triggers them when someone comes out of the gates betting -180, -200, -240 plays?

HedgeHog · 08-16-10, 09:32 AM

The trigger is when you bet your entire new deposit plus the bonus money they gave you.

DBurton81 · 08-16-10, 10:22 AM

wow...this book is missing out on winning a lot more money from you.

-105 · 08-16-10, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by RichardGeorge

I was thinking... there is nothing at all sharp about taking Strasburg, right of the DL, as a -180 fav.

If I was in charge of the lines at a book, i would ENCOURAGE that kind of bet.

So easy to say bad bet after the results

sq764 · 08-16-10, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by -105

So easy to say bad bet after the results

yes and not... this isn't exactly betting roy halladay now against the pirates and the phillies losing 1-0... thats a bad beat... this is betting an AWFUL team with a rookie pitcher coming off the DL at -180!!

The nationals aren't terrible every year just because of bad pitching.. guys have to make the plays behind him and they have to hit...

-105 · 08-16-10, 11:24 AM

If 180 is such a horrible price for was, then everyone on this forum and everyone they know should of taken florida for everything they could get there hands on.

trixtrix · 08-16-10, 11:47 AM

sportsbook.com does not want to go head to head w/ pinny at -125 pricing (after bonus money granted), betting your entire balance plus bonus in one lump sum on a rogue price is easily identifiable as arber activity;

there is nothing to complain about, most rec books will take some issue w/ this, next time make better cover plays or stop complaining