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  • purdue99
    SBR Rookie
    • 07-10-10
    • 6

    #1
    WSEX owes me 20K and refuses to pay
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  • scdavis0
    SBR Rookie
    • 01-28-09
    • 37

    #2
    intrade had the same language in their lebron contract and graded lebron.cleveland a winner
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    • eightballer41
      SBR High Roller
      • 07-05-10
      • 134

      #3
      Wow man....sorry but yeah, their wording definitely was NOT correct...

      Hope you get paid
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      • TomG
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-29-07
        • 500

        #4
        If it makes you feel any better, you won't actually get paid 20k either way
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        • Doug
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-10-05
          • 6324

          #5
          Originally posted by TomG
          If it makes you feel any better, you won't actually get paid 20k either way
          Sure he will

          $1 a year for 20,000 years....
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          • Catherine
            Restricted User
            • 04-07-10
            • 116

            #6
            they owe me lots too. I will never see it.
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            • Dirty Sanchez
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-01-10
              • 16031

              #7
              Hope it works out for you...at least better than Doug's payment plan
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              • joe blow
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 05-09-06
                • 775

                #8
                Ask them if they paid out on the miami side.....Sounds like u knew that u were taking a shot at them.
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                • bubba
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-29-05
                  • 2432

                  #9
                  wow, this is such a tough call in my mind

                  this happens becasue both of you are at fault. they should have this worded super clearly, they do not. if they meant include sign and trades, it should say it. if i was going to put a large wager on something like this, im getting in writing from the book exactly what there rules are (in advance). as for a solution, i dont have one.
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                  • idontlikerocks
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 10-09-07
                    • 571

                    #10
                    christ joe, he called them! does he need a contract signed in blood?
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                    • Pokerjoe
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 04-17-09
                      • 704

                      #11
                      but also because any "sign and trade" made with another team could also conceivably been graded the winner.

                      You knew you were shooting at them. No sympathy, dude, sorry. You should never have made the bet. They should have been more clear, but they're the ones holding the money, you're the one trying to angle shoot, by your own admission. "Conceivably" you'll get your money. "Conceivably"
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                      • purdue99
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 07-10-10
                        • 6

                        #12
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                        • bubba
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-29-05
                          • 2432

                          #13
                          why not get this in writing. so many people called in advance and not one has an email saying so????????? if u had it in writing, u are right and they are wrong.

                          I called them and confirmed that Cleveland would be the winner of this market if they signed and then traded Lebron
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                          • purdue99
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 07-10-10
                            • 6

                            #14
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                            • purdue99
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 07-10-10
                              • 6

                              #15
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                              • joe blow
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 05-09-06
                                • 775

                                #16
                                I just read the front page,at the very least u should get a refund.
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                                • JohnnyC
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 02-27-09
                                  • 504

                                  #17
                                  Stop trying to angle shoot, the King is in Miami PERIOD
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                                  • sdtrader
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 01-23-09
                                    • 536

                                    #18
                                    I hear you, but he does have a valid point when he contacted them and they said a sign and trade would count and he traded the contract based on this.
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                                    • bubba
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-29-05
                                      • 2432

                                      #19
                                      if there is an email saying that

                                      sign and trade counts as the team signed with, then it should be a winner. a client cant be asked to do more then email for clarification in advance when rules are ambiguous. assuming there is an email saying so, i side with the player(s) here
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                                      • Chuck Sims
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-29-05
                                        • 3072

                                        #20
                                        purdue99, Since you had 200 contracts on Cle with the thought of winning if he stayed or left with a sign & trade deal, did you think of talking to the interactive/wagering person on duty instead of trying to get a clarification with the Antiguan cs reps that know nothing other than the checks will be processed next week?

                                        Strict interpretation of the wording makes you a winner. However, there would of been a huge outcry if WSEX paid on Cle and left the Miami bettors high and dry. Come to think of it, WSEX might leave the Miami bettors high & dry too.
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                                        • ucbearcats1027
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 01-05-09
                                          • 903

                                          #21
                                          dude your an odiot
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                                          • purdue99
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 07-10-10
                                            • 6

                                            #22
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                                            • bubba
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-29-05
                                              • 2432

                                              #23
                                              now im confused. everything you wrote is deleted. did u cut a deal with them???
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                                              • capitalist pig
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-25-07
                                                • 4998

                                                #24
                                                Yea, I read all this morning and am interested as to what the outcome was?

                                                later
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                                                • Chuck Sims
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-29-05
                                                  • 3072

                                                  #25
                                                  I doubt he cut a deal. When that happens the poster reports it with the usual they are the best sportsbook blah...blah.
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                                                  • trumpdown
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-21-09
                                                    • 755

                                                    #26
                                                    I'm sure the complaint is pending to get resolved. In the interim perhaps this whole thread should be deleted with a response from Purdue on the outcome. It is a little ironic since he was slamming the book warning others to "stay away" only to completely retract.
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                                                    • BET THE HOOK
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-16-09
                                                      • 1947

                                                      #27
                                                      I wonder what all the other books did on this wager?
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                                                      • jackkkk2009
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-13-09
                                                        • 1183

                                                        #28
                                                        they are becoming a scam book soon
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                                                        • increasedodds
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 01-20-06
                                                          • 819

                                                          #29
                                                          Lebron signed with Cleveland. He'll play in Miami.

                                                          If the prop said who will Lebron sign with Cleveland is the winner. If it said where will he play next year Miami is the winner. It's that simple.
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                                                          • robertg
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 02-02-09
                                                            • 643

                                                            #30
                                                            how could someone be confident enough to even keep the funds necessary for the wager in WSEX?
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                                                            • aggie
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 03-09-06
                                                              • 168

                                                              #31
                                                              probably he settled under confidentiality, so others that bet on cle know nothing
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                                                              • trumpdown
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 01-21-09
                                                                • 755

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by robertg
                                                                how could someone be confident enough to even keep the funds necessary for the wager in WSEX?
                                                                Considering pay-outs are running several months behind there isn't much choice other than to wait or play-out remaining funds.
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                                                                • andywend
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-20-07
                                                                  • 4805

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Purdue,
                                                                  The wager was correctly settled with Miami being the winner so WSEX doesn't owe you anything.
                                                                  intrade had the same language in their lebron contract and graded lebron.cleveland a winner
                                                                  SCDavis, this is an outright lie as Intrade graded Miami as the winner.


                                                                  12/07/2010 13:17:59
                                                                  Subject: Re:LBJ to parts unknown


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                                                                  The Lebron James market was expired in accordance with the market rules namely the Miami Heat contract expired at 100 and all other contracts at 0.

                                                                  For the avoidance of doubt the market rules state that a contract will expire at 100 if "if LeBron James signs a contract to play for the team specified in the contract". A sign-and-trade contract is not a contract to "to play".
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                                                                  • Kemalettin
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-20-10
                                                                    • 1351

                                                                    #34
                                                                    20k ?
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                                                                    • Bill Dozer
                                                                      www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                                      • 07-12-05
                                                                      • 10894

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Purdue and others got a raw deal. Sportsbooks like 5Dimes worded the same prop as "who will Lebron announce on Saturday?" Purdue actually won his bet the which was who will Lebron sign with. Who will Lebron commit to would have been another way to phrase it. Some cappers surely took the sign and trade into consideration when they capped it.
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