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rule #2 submit a complaint to SBR and wait 2 weeks before they even make first contact with you.Comment -
He wasn't even screaming to the forums. As he noted, the horse manager was out til morning and he was anxious because he was entitled to a big score. Its not like he said "BM screwed me out of 20k!!!! CHEATERS!!!!!!! BM SUCKS F-!!!!!!!!!"...he just wanted opinions on what people here thought would happen.
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Sounds like one hell of a hit!!
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He should 100% get the 15k if the rules that were posted in this thread r indeed bookmakers rules.. Nice hit sir
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I got paid by bookmaker exactly as the rule stated as soon as the manager got in. I got paid the whole pool minus the 27% takeout of the track, in this case Calder. Once again nothing but good things to say about them. Thanks to all that helped me understand were I was standing at that point. You guys are great.Comment -
Congrats on a nice cash!Comment -
Wow, nice hit.Comment -
very nice, glad it was taken care of and you got what was comingComment -
fairy talesComment -
This is an important thing to consider when betting pick 4's and such offshore. Most books don't do this. Know the max payouts for each track aswell. No use spending $400 on a pick 4 ticket full of bombs at Finger Lakes if the track max payout limit is 3k.Comment -
Congrats on that mannComment -
Nice hit, and no one has really questioned Bookmaker on rules like this....... their two only shortcomings are the comparatively bad customer service, and their bad .20 cent baseball lines, and crappy teaser odds.Comment -
you don't understand. you cannot collect because no one actually hit it in the mutual pool so they can't pay you since their is no payout on the 4 correct. you should have know this in advace and played it with youbet or tvg who send it in to the actual pools. then you would have been the only one to hit it and would have collected it by now since the us based eg. tvg/youbet are governed by us law. don't play those potentially big payoff bets with offshore books. everyone i know knows better.Comment -
Wow, that was a GREAT hit!Comment -
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you are not entitled to a payoff that never happened. no one else hit so there is no payout for 4 winners. you are screwed and have to question why you would bet longshort pick 4 with an offshore book.Comment -
where is the final history?, you got the 15k ?Comment -
Wrong, per Bookmakers own rules, whenever someone picks 4 correct and no one picks 4 correct on track, the bettor gets the entire pool less the track takeout on the exotic. Since the track pool on the Pick-4 this day was 22,000 and the track takeout on P4s is 27%, Bookmaker paid this guy around 15,000, as they should.Comment -
The 5Dimes family also has the same rule although it has to be requested though and it eliminates consolation payoffs:
In some instances, no one in the paramutual pool will have all the selections correct in an exotic wager. You may choose to have total pool payouts, less a 20% takeout, in place of track consolation payouts. With this selection, your payout odds will be calculated at a rate of 80% of the total amount of the pool divided by the base ticket amount for the pool in the paramutual. Payouts calculated in this manner only apply when the track does not offer a payout for all selections being correct. Maximum track payouts per race, as listed in the Racebook Payouts, still apply. This “Total Pool Payouts Only” request must be noted on your account before any wagers will qualify for this option. Only wagers confirmed after this option is chosen will qualify for total pool payouts. Once this option is selected, you may not switch back to consolation payouts. After this option has been applied to your account, contact 5Dimes customer service to have the difference in the amount of the track consolation payout and 80% of total pool calculation credited when applicable.Comment -
Gratz on getting paidComment -
Congrats on the hit
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A. Always check the rules for situations like this. Bookmaker and 5dimes has it covered where you will get paid (with a max cap).
B. Not everyone lives in a state or jurisdiction where Youbet or TVG is available. I would be happy to put my money into the pools so that horsemen and tracks get their cut, but my state doesn't allow it, and Youbet will not let me deposit there because of my jurisdiction.
C. If this would have been hit in a US pool, a W2-G would have been required. I believe everyone should (and is required) to pay their taxes on gambling winnings, but this will not be neccesary in this example.
D. Don't preach that everyone knows better....... you need to learn a little more before you preach to others.Comment -
Nice take that money now and run!Comment -
Bookmaker routinely does the right thing. I was virtually certain he would get paid whatever the rules said. Good to see him get paid.
Next time though you might want to wait 24 hours for the horse manager to get in before bringing an issue up on a forum.Comment -
My thoughts after reading these posts are as follows:
1. Disappointed in Justin7, you sound like a company man bro!
2. Bookmaker is ******* excellent. We all got to keep things in perspective. At the end of the day, they are fair and pay in a timely fashion. We all have to remember that the industry is under attack. They are still finding ways to payout quickly. You can't ask for more then that. There's only a handful of good books left.
3. Congrats to the guy getting paid and I feel like you handled yourself very well. Good job bro!Comment -
you guys are too gullibleComment -
dont bet horses offshore ,,,it legal here in the state,,,,im with twispire they are very goodComment -
nice hit man good luck
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