[Hareeba!]

On Monday I opened an account and deposited with this book in order to avail of some reasonably artractive soccer odds.

I placed a single bet on a Monday match at 0 handicap and the match was drawn.

Then before betting on Tuesday I checked my account to find that no refund had been credited. After a long chat session they admitted a glitch and that all should be fixed within an hour.

I proceeded to place several bets and most of them won.

But checking my account before today's betting I find no dividends have been credited.

Again I call on Live Chat to ask WTF and am advised that bets are normally settled after 24 hours!!!

I told him that is totally unacceptable, no other book in my experience is so slack and that I don't have enough in my account to cover my bets for today. Fix it quick or I'm getting out for good.

And other oddity:

On selecting a bet the slip shows a maximum stake. On entering that amount, say $500 at say odds of 1.90, it then pops up a message saying "the system suggests a bet of $500 at 1.856" !!!

WTF???

Anyone else have experience dealing with these clowns?
Is all this just a temporary glitch or are they always like this?

[DIF]

isnīt it scary? why most bets always wins against shitbooks? It must been some reason. I been dealing with them about a half year ago.

The money was refunded but it took some time, up to a week or 10 days( I remember) I rather sure you recieve your funds. Good luck pal. http://www.odds2u.com/alphabetic-bookmakerranking-704368

[DIF]

isnīt it scary? why most bets always wins against shitbooks? It must been some reason. I been dealing with them about a half year ago.

The money was refunded but it took some time, up to a week or 10 days( I remember) I rather sure you recieve your funds. Good luck pal. http://www.odds2u.com/alphabetic-bookmakerranking-704368

http://www.odds2u.com/alphabetic-boo...ranking-704368

or http://www.odds2u.com/bookmaker-guide-107051

[DIF]

http://www.odds2u.com/alphabetic-boo...ranking-704368

or http://www.odds2u.com/bookmaker-guide-107051

if the links not working, you can also try search for odds2u.com.

there it is.

[ncat12]

never heard of these guys.. guess this is a good thing

[DIF]

ncat12

yes, its a good thing.

[eavesdropper]

And other oddity:

On selecting a bet the slip shows a maximum stake. On entering that amount, say $500 at say odds of 1.90, it then pops up a message saying "the system suggests a bet of $500 at 1.856" !!!

Yup, this is one of their legendary tricks. It was just like this a couple of years ago when i used to bet at them. Never bet close to the max at them, if you decide to continue there. But I would suggest to stay away..

[Hareeba!]

These guys are incredible

I've had accounts with at least 60 online bookies in my time but never have I had one which takes so long to settle bets!

And they are trying to tell me this is "standard industry practice"!!

It is now Tuesday and still they haven't settled soccer bets from Sunday!!

Does anyone know of any other bookies adopting such a "standard industry practice"?

[eavesdropper]

They must be the industry leader in this area Maybe they want ppl to keep large balances and slow-settling the bets will help in this, at least it made me keeping a larger balance than usual, or maybe italians are just lazy

[Champi]

They are scam.
hareeba! please tell me 1 reason why you play in a scam rated site with long history of cheating?

[talnted]

Scumbags.

[Hareeba!]

They are scam.
hareeba! please tell me 1 reason why you play in a scam rated site with long history of cheating?

Well I was initially attracted by their good odds on Asian handicaps and I find they do let me on for more than 12Bet and M88.
I got an okay report on their reputation before opening an account.
My only concern with them so far is their tardiness in settling bets, although at first I did experience a software malfunction which appears to have been resolved.
What is your reason for labelling them a scam site and what cheating are you referring to?

[Champi]

Well I was initially attracted by their good odds on Asian handicaps and I find they do let me on for more than 12Bet and M88.
I got an okay report on their reputation before opening an account.
My only concern with them so far is their tardiness in settling bets, although at first I did experience a software malfunction which appears to have been resolved.
What is your reason for labelling them a scam site and what cheating are you referring to?

1st-At least their odds are lower than all other Asians
-23 July 2007
Despite adjusting the line twice in the preceding twelve hours-waits the end of a tennis match to void all winning bets.
07 January 2008-Bet1128 settles winning bet after six months
Bet1128 finally settles as a winner a tennis bet on the ATP Gstaad tournament played on July 2007, which had been originally voided after the event.
22 February 2008-information from a former employee of Bet1128 that the UK-based Italian-owned bookmaker dismissed 7 employees and had 5 resignations all in the last 2 months.
20 September 2008-Bet1128 confiscates over 36,000 euros in winnings from player accused of being part of an organized group of punters.
Looking at the player's betting history, he appears to be guilty only to have placed a series of winning multiples on boxing matches who had been available as picks on a betting forum.Another player reported to BMR that a Moneybookers deposit was never credited to his account. The player, who made the deposit at the end of July, has showed BMR e-mails where Bet1128 claims Moneybookers blocked the player account for suspicious activity, while on another e-mail Moneybookers clearly says the player account is active.
03 October 2008-a second complaint from a player who had over 20,000 euros in winning bets confiscated from Bet1128 after he was accused of being part of a group of punters.
15 July 2009-IBAS adjudicates Bet1128 case in favour of players - UPDATES
After a full panel meeting the Independent Betting Adjudication Service ruled in favour of the players who had their Olympic boxing bets voided by Bet1128 on claims that being the same tips available on a betting forum the players were involved in syndicate betting.
According to IBAS, Bet1128 has been unable to establish any links between the players other than the fact that they placed the same bets, which IBAS defined "not particularly complicated".
IBAS also said that Bet1128 should have managed the risk in a similar way to major UK bookmakers who stopped the betting on Olympic boxing after it became evident that the non-seeded draws had advantaged some boxers to reach the semi-finals.

UPDATE 22-05-2009: The player received an e-mail from the payment manager confirming that Bet1128 was going to fully honour the IBAS ruling and pay the winnings.
The player agreed to be paid by installments of 5000 euros per week starting on May 25.

UPDATE 25-05-2009: The 1st tranche of payment was paid today as planned.

UPDATE 25-06-2009: Ther player says Bet1128 continues to pay the installments as promised.


UPDATE 15-07-2009: Player received the final installment from Bet1128. The balance that was confiscated in September 2008 has now been paid in full.
-30 June 2009
Second player in Bet11128 confiscation case receives full payment
The second player who submitted a complaint to BMR and who also received a IBAS ruling in his favour confirmed to have received a full payment from Bet1128
11 August 2009-Bet1128 announces a move to Malta and immediately hits a new low
While Bet1128 announces a move to Malta under a new ownership, Centurionbet, a player reports to have had a bet voided by the bookmaker before the start of the match and after the end when the bet resulted as lost, Bet1128 re-instated it taking the original amount of the bet from the player balance.
15 January 2010-Italian Police freezes Bet1128 Italian assets over suspected Mafia links
Is this enough to avoid it?

[Jaug]

On Monday I opened an account and deposited with this book in order to avail of some reasonably artractive soccer odds.

I placed a single bet on a Monday match at 0 handicap and the match was drawn.

Then before betting on Tuesday I checked my account to find that no refund had been credited. After a long chat session they admitted a glitch and that all should be fixed within an hour.

I proceeded to place several bets and most of them won.

But checking my account before today's betting I find no dividends have been credited.

Again I call on Live Chat to ask WTF and am advised that bets are normally settled after 24 hours!!!

I told him that is totally unacceptable, no other book in my experience is so slack and that I don't have enough in my account to cover my bets for today. Fix it quick or I'm getting out for good.

And other oddity:

On selecting a bet the slip shows a maximum stake. On entering that amount, say $500 at say odds of 1.90, it then pops up a message saying "the system suggests a bet of $500 at 1.856" !!!

WTF???

Anyone else have experience dealing with these clowns?
Is all this just a temporary glitch or are they always like this?

Sounds like 10bet, my advice would be to stay away from books that do this.

[Hareeba!]

1st-At least their odds are lower than all other Asians
-23 July 2007
Despite adjusting the line twice in the preceding twelve hours-waits the end of a tennis match to void all winning bets.
07 January 2008-Bet1128 settles winning bet after six months
Bet1128 finally settles as a winner a tennis bet on the ATP Gstaad tournament played on July 2007, which had been originally voided after the event.
22 February 2008-information from a former employee of Bet1128 that the UK-based Italian-owned bookmaker dismissed 7 employees and had 5 resignations all in the last 2 months.
20 September 2008-Bet1128 confiscates over 36,000 euros in winnings from player accused of being part of an organized group of punters.
Looking at the player's betting history, he appears to be guilty only to have placed a series of winning multiples on boxing matches who had been available as picks on a betting forum.Another player reported to BMR that a Moneybookers deposit was never credited to his account. The player, who made the deposit at the end of July, has showed BMR e-mails where Bet1128 claims Moneybookers blocked the player account for suspicious activity, while on another e-mail Moneybookers clearly says the player account is active.
03 October 2008-a second complaint from a player who had over 20,000 euros in winning bets confiscated from Bet1128 after he was accused of being part of a group of punters.
15 July 2009-IBAS adjudicates Bet1128 case in favour of players - UPDATES
After a full panel meeting the Independent Betting Adjudication Service ruled in favour of the players who had their Olympic boxing bets voided by Bet1128 on claims that being the same tips available on a betting forum the players were involved in syndicate betting.
According to IBAS, Bet1128 has been unable to establish any links between the players other than the fact that they placed the same bets, which IBAS defined "not particularly complicated".
IBAS also said that Bet1128 should have managed the risk in a similar way to major UK bookmakers who stopped the betting on Olympic boxing after it became evident that the non-seeded draws had advantaged some boxers to reach the semi-finals.

UPDATE 22-05-2009: The player received an e-mail from the payment manager confirming that Bet1128 was going to fully honour the IBAS ruling and pay the winnings.
The player agreed to be paid by installments of 5000 euros per week starting on May 25.

UPDATE 25-05-2009: The 1st tranche of payment was paid today as planned.

UPDATE 25-06-2009: Ther player says Bet1128 continues to pay the installments as promised.


UPDATE 15-07-2009: Player received the final installment from Bet1128. The balance that was confiscated in September 2008 has now been paid in full.
-30 June 2009
Second player in Bet11128 confiscation case receives full payment
The second player who submitted a complaint to BMR and who also received a IBAS ruling in his favour confirmed to have received a full payment from Bet1128
11 August 2009-Bet1128 announces a move to Malta and immediately hits a new low
While Bet1128 announces a move to Malta under a new ownership, Centurionbet, a player reports to have had a bet voided by the bookmaker before the start of the match and after the end when the bet resulted as lost, Bet1128 re-instated it taking the original amount of the bet from the player balance.
15 January 2010-Italian Police freezes Bet1128 Italian assets over suspected Mafia links
Is this enough to avoid it?

thanks for all that
one could probably find similar stuff on most books i suspect
I dunno about the rest but the very first line is dead wrong - the only reason I was attracted to them in the first place was the fact that they do offer better odds than the other other Asian books on lots of events every day. I bet where I can get the best odds and I've had plenty of activity at 1128 in just two weeks of being with them.
but I certainly will be careful not to let my balance get too high there - problem is that with their slow settlements one does need to maintain a higher balance than one should have to to cover the next day's betting

[jboy4]

D- rating. I dont care how good there soccer odds are. Why would you even mess with a place like this? Getting paid is a bigger priority than any odds, dont you think

[Hareeba!]

D- rating. I dont care how good there soccer odds are. Why would you even mess with a place like this? Getting paid is a bigger priority than any odds, dont you think

indeed but that is only SBR's rating

my source whom I trust gives them the green light on that score

I've just put them to the test by requesting a withdrawal equivalent to my initial deposit. Let's see how that goes.

[Vitti]

1128 often cancels lines of favorites. But they don't cancel high lines like

- Frankfurt - Bayern correct score 2:1 at 40

- Sevilla - ZSKA correct score 1:2 at 35

Both bets won. The money was in my account within 1 hour and is on my Moneybookers account now - within 3 hours/3 days

if you bet favorites, be careful.

[Kemalettin]

lol what a odd book name

[tribet]

1128 are the remnants of Paradisebet they have all sorts of trouble for some time,if you must play there stick with Asian 1128(and you might as well use other Asian books)not the sportsbook it's run by Italians which is all you need to know.

[Hareeba!]

1128 are the remnants of Paradisebet they have all sorts of trouble for some time,if you must play there stick with Asian 1128(and you might as well use other Asian books)not the sportsbook it's run by Italians which is all you need to know.

Asian1128 is where I am ... wasn't aware of any other ???

some of my most loyal and trustworthy friends are Italian

[Hareeba!]

indeed but that is only SBR's rating

my source whom I trust gives them the green light on that score

I've just put them to the test by requesting a withdrawal equivalent to my initial deposit. Let's see how that goes.

OK .. Update time
My withdrawal request for $2,500 was denied
But that was only because I hadn't yet been verified so I had to submit a couple of ID documents and passed that test
So, having won a bit more in the interim requested a $4k payout on Sunday
It was in my Moneybookers account within 24hrs

[moonbeam]

OK .. Update time
My withdrawal request for $2,500 was denied
But that was only because I hadn't yet been verified so I had to submit a couple of ID documents and passed that test
So, having won a bit more in the interim requested a $4k payout on Sunday
It was in my Moneybookers account within 24hrs

Wow. 4k payout within 24 hours with this shit book? Congratulations
Open a bottle of champagne and never go back again

[Hareeba!]

Wow. 4k payout within 24 hours with this shit book? Congratulations
Open a bottle of champagne and never go back again

I still have funds in there (all profits) and intend to keep playing there as long as they don't impose stupid limits or do something else which supports claims that they are as bad as you say.

My only issues with them are tardiness in settling bets and attempts to sell bets at lower odds than they are quoting. But now that I'm alert to that I won't be caught out again.

[Kovac_]

To me, one of the key factor to verify if a book can be trustable or not, despite the fact that for sure the feedbacks that came reported on the internet are important even more if they go on the same (bad) direction, is how fast they are to move their lines. Why a scam book should be as fast as possible to move their lines following the direction of the market?
As far as I know, for the asian handicaps they use the lines of 12Bet/Ibcbet, while, about 1X2 and correlated bets, they are always fast to correctly update their lines.
This is a sign, to me, that they are OK.

Greetings.

[Hareeba!]

Further update:

For some unknown reason over the past two to three weeks they haven't been offering odds in the markets which attracted me to them in the first place and which I played successfully up until then.

Accordingly I requested a withdrawal of my balance (>4k) which was promptly deposited into my Moneybookers account.

So, whilst they appear to have their quirks, they certainly don't deserve all the "scam book" criticism imho.

I'll be watching for a re-emergence of them with good odds in the markets I play and won't hesitate to deposit and play again.

[althelegend]

This book has changed ownership at least once since paradise bet days

[Vitti]

I never had problems with 1128 using it since 2008. The last 30 days I had 3 withdrawals. First withdrawal took one week including verification because of one year break. Second and third withdrawals needed less than 1 day. Amount: 2000

always great lines and no refused bets any more like 2008.

[Hareeba!]

I never had problems with 1128 using it since 2008. The last 30 days I had 3 withdrawals. First withdrawal took one week including verification because of one year break. Second and third withdrawals needed less than 1 day. Amount: 2000

always great lines and no refused bets any more like 2008.

yep, withdrawals were never my concern

but their odds have gone right off since when I started with them so I don't have any funds with them now