[raiders72001]

[raiders72001]

I'm surprised these guys let the price go down after getting some pub. Buying $10k and the price would have skyrocketed. The volume doubled but the price went down.

[bigtymer56]

If anybody is looking for some cheap Wagerr, might want to throw up some low bids on Ionomy. Somebody or bodies sold over a million WGR and brought down the buy wall that had been setup at .00000075 BTC.

[Optional]

Where are our WGR friends?

What's going on with the price?

[bigtymer56]

Where are our WGR friends?

What's going on with the price?

Price is holding steady for the moment...but a couple more big sells might crash it, if nobody comes in and puts up another big buy wall. Think the majority of liquidity is split between Ionomy and Uniswap.

[raiders72001]

Where are our WGR friends?

What's going on with the price?

I went in their telegram to read up more. They were talking about why people weren't joining and marketing, wondering if people understood crypto. So I jumped in incognito as Tim and got this reply.

[raiders72001]

Optional - they love you too.

[Optional]

Optional - they love you too.

I bet.

Pity they can't understand how much I liked the idea and wanted it to work. But watched it get taken over by the people who wanted it to appeal to crypto investors instead of bettors.

One of the original devs in the first thread we had about Wagerr sounded like they really understood what was needed to make it work for players and investors. Shame his faction lost.

[bookie]

I bet.

Pity they can't understand how much I liked the idea and wanted it to work. But watched it get taken over by the people who wanted it to appeal to crypto investors instead of bettors.

One of the original devs in the first thread we had about Wagerr sounded like they really understood what was needed to make it work for players and investors. Shame his faction lost.

I was remembering the same thing Optional. Do you require that person's SBR name?

[bigtymer56]

I bet.

Pity they can't understand how much I liked the idea and wanted it to work. But watched it get taken over by the people who wanted it to appeal to crypto investors instead of bettors.

One of the original devs in the first thread we had about Wagerr sounded like they really understood what was needed to make it work for players and investors. Shame his faction lost.

This is pretty evident by the Telegram group....pretty dead for a crypto Telegram and the dudes in it barely even talk about their bets or sports in general.

[Alfie White]

Squid game token anyone?

[EasyTiger]

Not certain why everyone dismisses Wagerr so quickly. I've been using the platform for over two months now after seeing the thread here. The lines have been extremely fair and it's been a great out for me. Easy to fund and instant withdrawals. Will the platform survive, I don't know, but I hope it does. The technology behind it is pretty awesome and they do have some upgrades planned for the near term. I honestly think the project is moving in the right direction.

[Alfie White]

Yeeeeeaaah, no.

[EasyTiger]

Yeeeeeaaah, no.

To each his own. What works for someone may not work for someone else. All a matter of perspective.

[Alfie White]

Yeeeeeaaah, no.

[curry2211]

Hi,


I was thinking about this. I just feel like sharing my thoughts.


In general, as others mentioned before, I think the main idea is great. I personally - as a professional gambler - I want something like this to happen. Rather sooner than later. A blockchain-based betting platform will be the future or at least part of the future.


But as many critics pointed out, it's highly doubtful if this Project will succeed. What I also see as a problem is that the wagerr community doesn't look like they are taking the arguments of the betting experts serious enough. It seems they are more interested in the crypto/tech side of the project.
The most obvious problem I see is the transformation into a mainstream product. How can wagerr get their hands on the "dumb" money to make the coin a deflationary one, which would be needed to make a profit for the investors and professional gamblers? In a theoretical future, I see an app where Average Joe can deposit 10 USD with Paypal or something similar and all these steps needed to have actual Wagerr will be done automatically.
As it is now, why should anyone in the world (apart from full-time professionals) see any reason to change to such a complicated product?


Anyway, I also follow the line of reasoning of SportsBettor74 For me it's worth taking a shot, as he put it - I would take such a gamble any day of the week. The potential of the product, in general, is so much greater than the downside. (losing the money).

[raiders72001]

Hi,


I was thinking about this. I just feel like sharing my thoughts.


In general, as others mentioned before, I think the main idea is great. I personally - as a professional gambler - I want something like this to happen. Rather sooner than later. A blockchain-based betting platform will be the future or at least part of the future.


But as many critics pointed out, it's highly doubtful if this Project will succeed. What I also see as a problem is that the wagerr community doesn't look like they are taking the arguments of the betting experts serious enough. It seems they are more interested in the crypto/tech side of the project.
The most obvious problem I see is the transformation into a mainstream product. How can wagerr get their hands on the "dumb" money to make the coin a deflationary one, which would be needed to make a profit for the investors and professional gamblers? In a theoretical future, I see an app where Average Joe can deposit 10 USD with Paypal or something similar and all these steps needed to have actual Wagerr will be done automatically.
As it is now, why should anyone in the world (apart from full-time professionals) see any reason to change to such a complicated product?


Anyway, I also follow the line of reasoning of SportsBettor74 For me it's worth taking a shot, as he put it - I would take such a gamble any day of the week. The potential of the product, in general, is so much greater than the downside. (losing the money).

I agree with your sentiment in wanting something like this to succeed. But you are correct in that they don't seem to take anything serious that we say. I think this will be their downfall. The product isn't strong enough as is.

[ktpistons32]

Site is sketch just a good way to lose btc in the blockchain

[bookie]

It feels like they got their minimum viable product up and aren't listening to gamblers because the plan has been to HODL and not to iterate or change the business model or get involved in the programing and legal complexities of making a blockchain based exchange.

[sss_av_ltd]

It feels like they got their minimum viable product up and aren't listening to gamblers because the plan has been to HODL and not to iterate or change the business model or get involved in the programing and legal complexities of making a blockchain based exchange.

Out of curiosity what would you suggest change?

[bookie]

Having to buy tokens. A bitcoin only exchange with a low rake would be a winner IMO.

[BetBothSides]

Does no one understand that this blockchain based exchange already exists? Sportx.bet

Place bets in USDC, Dai, Eth. All on the blockchain. Anonymous accounts, no KYC, community owened, no reversing bets, no asking for withdrawals as its all self custody. The future is here..

[sss_av_ltd]

Having to buy tokens. A bitcoin only exchange with a low rake would be a winner IMO.

I believe fairlay already does this right? I' sure there would be others too i.e. as the other person pointed out Sportx.bet also do this but that's not BTC. So Wagerr would have what point of difference then?

People not wanting to bet/buy WGR is understandable. There are benefits to having the WGR currency though so it's a question of do those benefits outweigh the negatives. Having no counterparty risk is one of the benefits as well as being able to redirect the house edge back to holders via the burning mechanism.

I think though likely you will see intermediaries step in and solve that problem so the user doesn't have to use WGR. https://www.topmatch24.com/ is an example of a sportsbook that uses WGR in the background to help lay risk whilst letting the user bet in their preferred currency.

[jjgold]

Does no one understand that this blockchain based exchange already exists? Sportx.bet

Place bets in USDC, Dai, Eth. All on the blockchain. Anonymous accounts, no KYC, community owened, no reversing bets, no asking for withdrawals as its all self custody. The future is here..

I think you cannot use usa IP

[bookie]

There are benefits to having the WGR currency though so it's a question of do those benefits outweigh the negatives.

There are no benefits to having the WGR currency. That's the whole thing.

Regarding Fairlay, if they had your software, and some customer service, and moved from .com and embraced being offshore, I think they would be successful.

Regarding the link you provided, it's blocked to U.S. viewers. But if you solved your on-off ramp issues in a real way I think you'd have a business and not a dream.

[BetBothSides]

I think you cannot use usa IP

This true, although when visiting US (from Canada) I was able to use it with VPN.

[EasyTiger]

There are no benefits to having the WGR currency. That's the whole thing.

Regarding Fairlay, if they had your software, and some customer service, and moved from .com and embraced being offshore, I think they would be successful.

Regarding the link you provided, it's blocked to U.S. viewers. But if you solved your on-off ramp issues in a real way I think you'd have a business and not a dream.

The WGR currency is one of the best attributes of the entire Wagerr ecosystem in that the coin is not tied to the volatility of general crypto such as BTC, ETH, or others. Yes, the on and off-ramps present some hurdles, but if you're concerned about price fluctuations in the WGR token, you can easily swap out to a stable coin such as BUSD. I would encourage anyone to read more about the Tokenomics of the currency within the FAQ section of the Wagerr website: Tokenomics - Wagerr.

[bookie]

The WGR currency is one of the best attributes of the entire Wagerr ecosystem in that the coin is not tied to the volatility of general crypto such as BTC, ETH, or others.

I find that a stunning thing to say. Of course crypto prices are all tied together. Haven't you noticed that when BTC is shooting up most of the alt coins have their rises, and the contrary. To say that for some unspecified reason some particular token is outside that market dynamic doesn't square with reality.

[DontTailMe]

I find that a stunning thing to say. Of course crypto prices are all tied together. Haven't you noticed that when BTC is shooting up most of the alt coins have their rises, and the contrary. To say that for some unspecified reason some particular token is outside that market dynamic doesn't square with reality.

And if history shows that it's price isn't tied to the mood of crypto in general, then that in itself should be cause for huge concern.

[EasyTiger]

And if history shows that it's price isn't tied to the mood of crypto in general, then that in itself should be cause for huge concern.

I'm not at all saying that the mood of investors can't affect the price. It obviously can. However, what I am saying is that the WGR token has a true utility use and is far beyond just a speculatory crypto. However, you have to dig in a bit to understand the mechanics behind it. I've said it before, but I was extremely skeptical at first. However, the more time I've spent using and familiarizing myself with the platform and the ecosystem around it, the more I like what I see.

[DontTailMe]

I'm not at all saying that the mood of investors can't affect the price. It obviously can. However, what I am saying is that the WGR token has a true utility use and is far beyond just a speculatory crypto. However, you have to dig in a bit to understand the mechanics behind it. I've said it before, but I was extremely skeptical at first. However, the more time I've spent using and familiarizing myself with the platform and the ecosystem around it, the more I like what I see.

This is exactly what you said:

The WGR currency is one of the best attributes of the entire Wagerr ecosystem in that the coin is not tied to the volatility of general crypto such as BTC, ETH, or others.

That's a scary statement.

[EasyTiger]

Essentially what I'm saying is that unlike a BTC only book such as Nitro which is subject to the external price fluctuations of BTC, the WGR coin is more directly affected by the adoption and volume of the Wagerr platform itself.

[DontTailMe]

I think it's more accurate to say both are true. WGR price depends on adoption, AND it's also subject to the price movements of crypto overall. That's pretty much a constant with assets such as this.

[bookie]

Easy Tiger...since you've been around a while I realize you are probably not a shill and take you at your word when you say you were skeptical and have seen the light.

Without arguing for or against the general viability of the scheme, I'd be curious to hear about:

1) Your intelectual journey--what points did you recognize that overcame your skepticism and sold you on the project.

2) Your experience using the platform. Where have you bought WGR, and what exactly was that process like? Have you sold any or are you HODL'ing it? What percentage of your bets do you place there? How quickly do lines change there vis-a-vis the rest of the market? Aside from the points made over and over about not limiting winners, not requiring KYC, allowing account holders to bet any amount, are there any strengths and weakness you as someone who bets there frequently have that you could share? What are your concerns about the project?

[EasyTiger]

Easy Tiger...since you've been around a while I realize you are probably not a shill and take you at your word when you say you were skeptical and have seen the light.

Without arguing for or against the general viability of the scheme, I'd be curious to hear about:

1) Your intelectual journey--what points did you recognize that overcame your skepticism and sold you on the project.

2) Your experience using the platform. Where have you bought WGR, and what exactly was that process like? Have you sold any or are you HODL'ing it? What percentage of your bets do you place there? How quickly do lines change there vis-a-vis the rest of the market? Aside from the points made over and over about not limiting winners, not requiring KYC, allowing account holders to bet any amount, are there any strengths and weakness you as someone who bets there frequently have that you could share? What are your concerns about the project?

I know, I probably sound like a shill at times...lol

Several years ago, I remembered hearing about the possibility of blockchain sports betting, which piqued my interest in the intersection of the two technologies. It may have been the Wagerr platform where I first heard about it, but I can't remember. I ran across this thread over the summer and thought I would take another look. As I've noted, I was highly skeptical, but I thought I might as well give it a try. I downloaded the iOS Wagerr wallet and then figured out how to purchase some of the coins via an exchange. I thought it was cool that the winnings were returned directly to the iOS wallet that I had complete control over. This meant not having to worry about payouts, KYC, etc. Liking this, I decided to use the platform more often and found some pretty favorable lines which were not fluctuating as quick as some of the other books.

The more time spent using the book, the more interested I became in the platform itself. I started reading through the documentation and spending time on their Telegram channel. The staff and members of the channel were very inviting and took the time to help me understand the platform better. Once I gained a better grasp, I looked into staking some of the WGR coin that I had to receive rewards (daily and weekly) payouts for investing in the platform. I also found it remarkable that I could both be an investor in the platform as well as a user.

I'm currently using the Ionomy exchange to purchase the WGR token and drip investing into share nodes to obtain the staking rewards. I played around with several other exchanges but found Ionomy the easiest to use. Essentially, I purchase BTC from one of the primary exchanges and send the funds to my Ionomy account. From there, I exchange my BTC for WGR and send the funds to my WGR wallet. It's honestly pretty simple once you get the hang of it.

I've enjoyed learning about the platform and interacting with the community and staff on Telegram. While I did have initial concerns about the project's long-term viability, I've found the staff to be accommodating and vested in the platform's development, which alleviated much of this. I'm now at the point where I would love to see the platform succeed, as I believe there is an outstanding team behind it with the right intentions.