[5ympathy]

I know pinny/asia books are the fastest, and that many books are really slow - but who's the slowest? Also, can Bookmaker/betCRIS be beat?

Thanks

[Mr. NBA]

Sympathy.......you will be kicked to the curb in short order if all you do is pound said book(s) on slow info/steam moves. Your time will be short lived.


With that said


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Very slow movers

[Waterstpub87]

Not a good idea, especially if this is all you are betting.

This is the equivalent of chasing steam, it is, but its not how you phrased the question. They'll figure out you are doing it and throw you out. Depending on how reputable the book is, they might keep your money with a "We don't tolerate that here" situation.

NBA in my opinion is the single hardest sport to beat. The lines are so accurate, information is very freely available, it has less of a degree of randomness than an NFL game or hockey. You could beat bookmaker betting NBA, but its going to be difficult.

Bet it, have fun betting it, but its difficult to get the point where you will consistently win long term in NBA. Easier sports to beat are college basketball, college football and MLB. College Basketball totals got me banned from bonus/cash back at bookmaker.

[5ympathy]

Sympathy.......you will be kicked to the curb in short order if all you do is pound said book(s) on slow info/steam moves. Your time will be short lived.


With that said


Betus
GTbets
Youwager


Very slow movers

Thanks for the answer - I assume you mean restricted very quickly, right?

[5ympathy]

Not a good idea, especially if this is all you are betting.

This is the equivalent of chasing steam, it is, but its not how you phrased the question. They'll figure out you are doing it and throw you out. Depending on how reputable the book is, they might keep your money with a "We don't tolerate that here" situation.

NBA in my opinion is the single hardest sport to beat. The lines are so accurate, information is very freely available, it has less of a degree of randomness than an NFL game or hockey. You could beat bookmaker betting NBA, but its going to be difficult.

Bet it, have fun betting it, but its difficult to get the point where you will consistently win long term in NBA. Easier sports to beat are college basketball, college football and MLB. College Basketball totals got me banned from bonus/cash back at bookmaker.

Thanks for the reply - yes, sorry - not trying to mislead anyone. Chasing steam would probably be more accurate. Somebody I know who lives in Denmark told me he made six figures last year chasing steam on NBA roster information, which is basically why I started looking into this. I do know NBA is very hard to beat. I also did know that bookmakers would restrict steam chasers, but they even confiscate funds?

[pologq]

Thanks for the answer - I assume you mean restricted very quickly, right?

they will boot you from the book

[ace7550]

Sympathy.......you will be kicked to the curb in short order if all you do is pound said book(s) on slow info/steam moves. Your time will be short lived.


With that said


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GTbets
Youwager


Very slow movers

This is a solid list. Bovada can be slow sometimes too.
Bare in mind when I say slow we are talking a matter of seconds.
GL Sympathy.

[Waterstpub87]

Thanks for the reply - yes, sorry - not trying to mislead anyone. Chasing steam would probably be more accurate. Somebody I know who lives in Denmark told me he made six figures last year chasing steam on NBA roster information, which is basically why I started looking into this. I do know NBA is very hard to beat. I also did know that bookmakers would restrict steam chasers, but they even confiscate funds?

Some place like a d or f rated book, certainly. I don't remember off the top of my head, but Some book had "steam plays" as a violation of house rules.

[ouzoun]

There is no such bookmaker. All bookmakers are attached somehow to Pinnacle. And when Pinnacle change the odds, they all change the odds together. Maybe it takes them 1-2-3 seconds, but no more than that.

[DontTailMe]

There is no such bookmaker. All bookmakers are attached somehow to Pinnacle. And when Pinnacle change the odds, they all change the odds together. Maybe it takes them 1-2-3 seconds, but no more than that.

This is very obviously not true. All you have to do is look across the market at any given time to see an array of odds which differ from each other and from Pinnacle.

[davethegambler]

they will boot you from the book

Will they boot you in this case if you are giving them normal nba sides/totals action as well? Let’s say half your wagers are steam chasing and other half are plays you originate

[jjgold]

It is basically taking a shot at a book

Bet other stuff and not a big player you can probably get away with it

[dmm]

Will they boot you in this case if you are giving them normal nba sides/totals action as well? Let’s say half your wagers are steam chasing and other half are plays you originate

Many books are looking at your closing line value. If your original plays and steam plays both beat the closing line consistently, that could be flagged.

[Ryermkd]

Many books are looking at your closing line value. If your original plays and steam plays both beat the closing line consistently, that could be flagged.

Yeah, best is go to brick and mortar. They will handicap you online where they can if you're too good. Live casino is worst, but it's sad even poker can't be normal.

Unless you're selected by the book, if you win too much, or show advanced strategical capabilities... You're better off as a "test-dummy". They will just handicap the fuk out of you, been playing too long to know what's up with online poker. At least they're collecting information, how they get use out of it, is beyond me. Would love a fair fight.

[haberbosch]

they will boot you from the book

Even pinnacle will ban you for that? I thought they don't limit winners and betting on new information doesn't seem to be against their terms and conditions.

[IBetYou]

There is no such bookmaker. All bookmakers are attached somehow to Pinnacle. And when Pinnacle change the odds, they all change the odds together. Maybe it takes them 1-2-3 seconds, but no more than that.

I agree. Doesn't happen anymore. A lot of the books in Europe are all using the same consultancy firm so they're well connected. For those that aren't, they have the technology to keep up with every twitch in the market.

Now if we're talking in-play then you will find differences, in spite of the fact in-play odds typically carry more juice, just because it's done individually. But 6 figure sum? GTFOOH!

[IBetYou]

Even pinnacle will ban you for that? I thought they don't limit winners and betting on new information doesn't seem to be against their terms and conditions.

They will limit you on how much you can bet in one go. Did it to me when I was there. So if you want to bet a couple thousand and they have you limited to 300 then you have to go through the process 7 times -time consuming ...and of course they're free to change the odds inbetween bets.