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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportfan99 View Post
    It wasn’t betting large on ping pong. On another A+ site I bet huge on ping pong and they didn’t care.

    I honestly think it was withdrawing too much. Since William Hill had no bitcoin or no max withdrawals per week, I would be up a lot and withdraw constantly. The same thing with bet 365.

    When I say “it was within their rules” I mean I didn’t open up another account. One would figure when a bet is accepted on the site, you are following their rules.

    Again they can do whatever they want, I would wish I got a warning because I asked them a few times: “are you OK with my withdrawals.” They said “no problem.” And then banned. If they sent an email saying “Hey, even though we are rated A+, don’t withdraw this much, or don’t do this, or don’t do that.” Perfect.

    It is what it is. I’m not totally blameless with the constant withdrawals. Probably stick to bitcoin sites from now on.
    OK so now that you're being honest with the most likely reason you've been banned, it seems appropriate that you would change the OP and the title to something accurate, like SBR A+ Rated Sportsbooks banning players for withdrawing too much - and remove the 'winning players' aspect of the OP and change it to 'withdrawing too frequently'.

    I mean, you're all for SBR going out of their way to outline what books do, and you even want books to email you to spell out to you exactly why they don't want to deal with you, so now that you are being honest, at least do the right thing.

    Honestly, what a headache. This is a you problem, not them. They handled this perfectly and appropriately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedApples View Post
    OK so now that you're being honest with the most likely reason you've been banned, it seems appropriate that you would change the OP and the title to something accurate, like SBR A+ Rated Sportsbooks banning players for withdrawing too much - and remove the 'winning players' aspect of the OP and change it to 'withdrawing too frequently'.

    I mean, you're all for SBR going out of their way to outline what books do, and you even want books to email you to spell out to you exactly why they don't want to deal with you, so now that you are being honest, at least do the right thing.

    Honestly, what a headache. This is a you problem, not them. They handled this perfectly and appropriately.
    Several times they were asked “are you guys OK with the withdrawals?” Do you have any issues?” ‘I’ll stop if you have issues.” ‘Let me know if you want me to stop.” ‘I’ll withdraw once every 6 months if you want.”

    ‘No problem’. ‘No problem’ ‘No problem” “No problem”. ‘No problem” and then “Go to hell.”

    I don’t think they handled it perfectly and appropriately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportfan99 View Post

    It wasn’t betting large on ping pong. On another A+ site I bet huge on ping pong and they didn’t care.

    I honestly think it was withdrawing too much. Since William Hill had no bitcoin or no max withdrawals per week, I would be up a lot and withdraw constantly. The same thing with bet 365.

    When I say “it was within their rules” I mean I didn’t open up another account. One would figure when a bet is accepted on the site, you are following their rules.

    Again they can do whatever they want, I would wish I got a warning because I asked them a few times: “are you OK with my withdrawals.” They said “no problem.” And then banned. If they sent an email saying “Hey, even though we are rated A+, don’t withdraw this much, or don’t do this, or don’t do that.” Perfect.

    It is what it is. I’m not totally blameless with the constant withdrawals. Probably stick to bitcoin sites from now on.
    I doubt it is for withdrawing too often. WillHill would have 100s of thousands of small rec gamblers and I'd guess a lot of them do that.

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    I withdraw quite often from William hill when winning, sometimes once or twice a week over 5 years and have not been banned.

    I’m guessing it has more to do with large bets on ridiculous markets like ping pong than anything else. You probably are knowledgeable on ping pong and can easily spot an edge in the lines because they don’t put much effort into those lines.

    Very frustrating to be limited as you could eventually be limited everywhere good and have to play at lower graded sites, but I’d have to agree with the SBR on this one that the most important things from a gaming site are that they will pay me, not scam me and have a user friendly site/app which all the A+ sites do.

    Essentially everyone who gambles enough to be on a site like this knows we will get limited if we find an edge or win too much.
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    Interesting thread.
    To put it quite simply, there is absolutely value to knowing how common or frequently a book will limit a player. A book that pays consistently for many years but limits winning players can still be an A+ book. Different people are looking for different things. Think of the Zagat reviews. A restaurant can get an extremely high grade for food but a low grade for ambiance. Different things appeal to different people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bfost1 View Post
    I withdraw quite often from William hill when winning, sometimes once or twice a week over 5 years and have not been banned.

    I’m guessing it has more to do with large bets on ridiculous markets like ping pong than anything else. You probably are knowledgeable on ping pong and can easily spot an edge in the lines because they don’t put much effort into those lines.

    Very frustrating to be limited as you could eventually be limited everywhere good and have to play at lower graded sites, but I’d have to agree with the SBR on this one that the most important things from a gaming site are that they will pay me, not scam me and have a user friendly site/app which all the A+ sites do.

    Essentially everyone who gambles enough to be on a site like this knows we will get limited if we find an edge or win too much.
    If you only bet with these books when they have the best line, you'll get banned. If you bet mostly small markets or props, you'll get banned. If you are able to win taking market prices on major sports you'll be okay....that player is not considered sharp even if they win.

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