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  • RobertAnthonyT7
    SBR High Roller
    • 03-27-18
    • 167

    #1
    Bitpay account closed
    Had the card since about the beginning. I was told today that my account has been closed by the Compliance Department and that my remaining funds ($3000+)in the account will be mailed back to me within 3/4 weeks in the form of a check. I’ve used the card a lot for full disclosure.

    I’ve also been closed at Coinbase.

    I guess my bitcoin use is over...
  • Pinoy-T-X
    SBR MVP
    • 10-28-12
    • 2176

    #2
    What happened man?
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    • RobertAnthonyT7
      SBR High Roller
      • 03-27-18
      • 167

      #3
      I went to do a withdrawal. It didn’t work. Called the number on the back of the card. The guy told me the bad news. I’m fuked. Guess I have to drive to NJ. I don’t know. Disaster
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      • RobertAnthonyT7
        SBR High Roller
        • 03-27-18
        • 167

        #4
        To be fair. I’ve won a lot. And lost more. Used that card constantly. Shocked it wasn’t sooner.

        I just don’t know how I’m going to gamble online now. The industry is completely geared toward bitcoin.
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        • eaglesfan371
          SBR MVP
          • 01-08-19
          • 4079

          #5
          It’s easy to sell bitcoin. Sell on local bitcoin for cash deposit to your bank account. Or sell on gemini, cashapp etc. just dont sell more than 20k or it triggers a 1099.
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          • RobertAnthonyT7
            SBR High Roller
            • 03-27-18
            • 167

            #6
            Originally posted by eaglesfan371
            It’s easy to sell bitcoin. Sell on local bitcoin for cash deposit to your bank account. Or sell on gemini, cashapp etc. just dont sell more than 20k or it triggers a 1099.
            Seems like the BitPay Card was the easiest way. This sucks bad
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            • pablo222
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-03-19
              • 8858

              #7
              Was the reason that you used it too much? Did you send payout directly from site to bitpay?
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              • RobertAnthonyT7
                SBR High Roller
                • 03-27-18
                • 167

                #8
                Originally posted by pablo222
                Was the reason that you used it too much? Did you send payout directly from site to bitpay?

                I never once sent it directly. Used blockchain every time. I’m assuming it’s because I used it too much.
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                • RobertAnthonyT7
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 03-27-18
                  • 167

                  #9
                  I knew I was DONE. I didn’t feel like getting into a debate or ask questions I wouldn’t get an answer for regardless
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                  • Crusherrr
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-27-16
                    • 3646

                    #10
                    Originally posted by eaglesfan371
                    It’s easy to sell bitcoin. Sell on local bitcoin for cash deposit to your bank account. Or sell on gemini, cashapp etc. just dont sell more than 20k or it triggers a 1099.
                    How do u send bitcoin to cashapp?
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                    • Pinoy-T-X
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-28-12
                      • 2176

                      #11
                      That’s weird that they cut you off like that. Unless they suspected you were using it for gambling. How often did you cash out?
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                      • pablo222
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-03-19
                        • 8858

                        #12
                        At least you get your money sent to you. I just received my bitpay card. What is the right way to use this card without having issues?
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                        • littlekona
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 11-19-15
                          • 5241

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RobertAnthonyT7
                          I went to do a withdrawal. It didn’t work. Called the number on the back of the card. The guy told me the bad news. I’m fuked. Guess I have to drive to NJ. I don’t know. Disaster
                          Did you use it (debit card) to fund any DFs sites like draftkings, adw accounts like xpressbet or tvg or any fiat offshore books....as I’ve heard others where account closed due to that..... sign up with Gemini for ach transfers
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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 60690

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pablo222
                            At least you get your money sent to you. I just received my bitpay card. What is the right way to use this card without having issues?
                            The main thing you can do is to not send directly from a bookmaker to Bitpay.

                            So that if they identify a group of wallet IDs that belong to a book, they can't simply search their own records to find you.

                            If you use a middleman wallet the only way they will notice the gambling activity is if your account is flagged for a full review and your deposited bitcoin traced back several levels.
                            .
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                            • RobertAnthonyT7
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 03-27-18
                              • 167

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Optional
                              The main thing you can do is to not send directly from a bookmaker to Bitpay.

                              So that if they identify a group of wallet IDs that belong to a book, they can't simply search their own records to find you.

                              If you use a middleman wallet the only way they will notice the gambling activity is if your account is flagged for a full review and your deposited bitcoin traced back several levels.

                              I middled every time. I did cash out a lot. I make big bets. Win big. Lose big. Lost more than I’ve won
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                              • RobertAnthonyT7
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 03-27-18
                                • 167

                                #16
                                Originally posted by littlekona
                                Did you use it (debit card) to fund any DFs sites like draftkings, adw accounts like xpressbet or tvg or any fiat offshore books....as I’ve heard others where account closed due to that..... sign up with Gemini for ach transfers
                                Never. Not once.
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 60690

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by RobertAnthonyT7


                                  I middled every time. I did cash out a lot. I make big bets. Win big. Lose big. Lost more than I’ve won
                                  If it was to do with gambling transactions, I suspect they would have told you that was the case.
                                  .
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                                  • mrpapageorgio
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-07-17
                                    • 2974

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                    How do u send bitcoin to cashapp?
                                    Cash App isn't accepting deposits yet, you can only sell what you bought through them and never withdrew.
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                                    • RobertAnthonyT7
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 03-27-18
                                      • 167

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                      If it was to do with gambling transactions, I suspect they would have told you that was the case.
                                      This has happened to me before. I had my account closed at Citibank and TD Bank. They don’t have to tell the person they are closing anything. I’ve previously asked and not given an answer. That’s why this time- I didn’t put up a fight or even bother asking.

                                      I don’t agree with the idea that they would have told me if they suspected it was gambling.

                                      I could be an outlier or the beginning of a crackdown. Time will tell.
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                                      • Alfa1234
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-19-15
                                        • 2722

                                        #20
                                        Why not simply use Kraken? Smaller fees than coinbase and they accept US clients. Never had a problem with them, just send the coins to blockchain first. Withdrawals in your bank account the next day.
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                                        • ATC727
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 08-23-14
                                          • 762

                                          #21
                                          Easy solution get the card under someone else’s name... done . Check.
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                                          • TheMoneyShot
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 02-14-07
                                            • 28672

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ATC727
                                            Easy solution get the card under someone else’s name... done . Check.
                                            Yep. Hopefully you're close enough to someone that you can get their SSN too
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                                            • TheMoneyShot
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 02-14-07
                                              • 28672

                                              #23
                                              Robert Anthony... come on man... tell us some details. We've had this card since it was practically available.... 2 full years now?

                                              What the heck did you do? Were you moving 5k+ each time? Give us some info. Were you going to ATM's constantly?
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                                              • RobertAnthonyT7
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 03-27-18
                                                • 167

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                Robert Anthony... come on man... tell us some details. We've had this card since it was practically available.... 2 full years now?

                                                What the heck did you do? Were you moving 5k+ each time? Give us some info. Were you going to ATM's constantly?
                                                Fair question. I already stated- I hit the ATM a lot. Permitted $2960 per day. $740 a withdrawals. I’ve had very large payouts on numerous occasions. I hit Bookmakers $100K limit one month. Never had a problem. Now it’s over. Not going to ask my gf to get involved w this crap and open a new card. I’m just toast
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                                                • Pinoy-T-X
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-28-12
                                                  • 2176

                                                  #25
                                                  100K?!
                                                  Holy crap..... that would do it.
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                                                  • littlekona
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-19-15
                                                    • 5241

                                                    #26
                                                    Like anything you have to be smart. If you have big hits spread it out with the other opinions like localbitcoins, ATM, exchanges, gift cards ect....I would hate to lose my bitpay
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                                                    • RobertAnthonyT7
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 03-27-18
                                                      • 167

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Pinoy-T-X
                                                      100K?!
                                                      Holy crap..... that would do it.
                                                      Yes, lasted a while.... I had the winning streak of my life early summer, hitting the ATM almost everyday.

                                                      Would of been nice if they shut me down before I lost.
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                                                      • RobertAnthonyT7
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 03-27-18
                                                        • 167

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by littlekona
                                                        Like anything you have to be smart. If you have big hits spread it out with the other opinions like localbitcoins, ATM, exchanges, gift cards ect....I would hate to lose my bitpay
                                                        It's like a part of me is gone...
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                                                        • DroopyDog
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-03-16
                                                          • 1255

                                                          #29
                                                          Robert at those levels this is a blessing in disguise. Dont forget you gave them your social security number when you got that card.

                                                          Start selling your BTC on peer to peer exchanges like LocalBitcoins for cash, or cash deposits. You can sell above market rate, and not leave the paper trail


                                                          Also, if you dont want to wait 3-4 weeks, call Bitpay back, ask them to re open your card for 1 hour so you can withdraw your balance. I asked and they did it for me when they closed my card also
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                                                          • RobertAnthonyT7
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 03-27-18
                                                            • 167

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by DroopyDog
                                                            Robert at those levels this is a blessing in disguise. Dont forget you gave them your social security number when you got that card.

                                                            Start selling your BTC on peer to peer exchanges like LocalBitcoins for cash, or cash deposits. You can sell above market rate, and not leave the paper trail


                                                            Also, if you dont want to wait 3-4 weeks, call Bitpay back, ask them to re open your card for 1 hour so you can withdraw your balance. I asked and they did it for me when they closed my card also
                                                            Ok, I will,,, thanks
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                                                            • RobertAnthonyT7
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 03-27-18
                                                              • 167

                                                              #31
                                                              I wouldn't be able to get my full amount though becasue I have over $3000 in the account and the max per day at the ATM is $2,960. I also think they want nothing to do with me.
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                                                              • littlekona
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 11-19-15
                                                                • 5241

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by RobertAnthonyT7
                                                                I wouldn't be able to get my full amount though becasue I have over $3000 in the account and the max per day at the ATM is $2,960. I also think they want nothing to do with me.
                                                                walmart money orders or post office
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                                                                • Shifty
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 08-10-08
                                                                  • 558

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Take look at selling Bitcoin for USDC. You can then have USDC transferred to your bank account. Nothing is reported...at least for the time being.
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                                                                  • BeatTheJerk
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 08-19-07
                                                                    • 31794

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by RobertAnthonyT7
                                                                    I middled every time. I did cash out a lot. I make big bets. Win big. Lose big. Lost more than I’ve won
                                                                    How much are we talking about here ? I know it's none of my business but I've cashed out nearly 50k in the last 90 days with no issues.
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                                                                    • BeatTheJerk
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 08-19-07
                                                                      • 31794

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                                      How much are we talking about here ? I know it's none of my business but I've cashed out nearly 50k in the last 90 days with no issues.
                                                                      Ok 100k in 30 days yeah that's being way too impatient buddy.
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