DAFABET UK - thieves or just stupid?

**Alfa1234** · 12-16-17, 09:22 AM

Refusing documents is the new way for some UK bookies to avoid verifying an account and having to deal with the payout...I've dealt with it before (dozens of pics in high res...and they won't accept it). There is not much to be done except trying to comply with every request.

**dafabetscam** · 12-16-17, 09:39 AM

Last night I sent them 12 pictures of my card from various angles, different lighting (outside/inside),close up shots of the signature and a video of the card. They reply saying "our security team needs a picture of the back of the card which is signed"

I have complied with every request.

I found a solictors firm in the Isle of Man who deal with pursuing debts and they are calling me on Monday morning. Does anyone know if I could add these costs onto what DAFABET owe me if i choose to pursue this method? One way or another I will get my money back.

I can't believe a book which you see advertised on various Premier League games and boxing matches are turning out to be a scam or thieves. I'm hoping this isn't the case but that is what its beginning to look like.

**Optional** · 12-16-17, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by dafabetscam

Last night I sent them 12 pictures of my card from various angles, different lighting (outside/inside),close up shots of the signature and a video of the card. They reply saying "our security team needs a picture of the back of the card which is signed"

I have complied with every request.

I found a solictors firm in the Isle of Man who deal with pursuing debts and they are calling me on Monday morning. Does anyone know if I could add these costs onto what DAFABET owe me if i choose to pursue this method? One way or another I will get my money back.

I can't believe a book which you see advertised on various Premier League games and boxing matches are turning out to be a scam or thieves. I'm hoping this isn't the case but that is what its beginning to look like.

I've said it before and bet I say it again... I firmly believe that most books that sponsor football teams are paying that much only to buy credibility they should not have.

So many bettors have this reaction. "I saw they were XYZ club sponsor so much be legit".

I think the football clubs should be held legally accountable a bit more.

And if your solicitor is telling you to find a UK address for them or he cant do anything... I'd just laugh and move onto a real solicitor.

The SBR Sportsbook Complaint form is here too.

**dafabetscam** · 12-16-17, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I've said it before and bet I say it again... I firmly believe that most books that sponsor football teams are paying that much only to buy credibility they should not have.

So many bettors have this reaction. "I saw they were XYZ club sponsor so much be legit".

I think the football clubs should be held legally accountable a bit more.

And if your solicitor is telling you to find a UK address for them or he cant do anything... I'd just laugh and move onto a real solicitor.

The SBR Sportsbook Complaint form is here too.

Hi optional,

I agree. They are plastered over my TV all weekend. It's hard to ignore their advertising.

My solictor searched for a UK address for them but couldn't find one. He can still do something but it gets "a little more complicated" if they don't have a UK address he said (Why does a book licenced by the UK GC not have a UK address?)

I will fill out a SBR complaint.

Thanks

**Optional** · 12-16-17, 12:44 PM

^^^ those are answers he should have the expertise to find himself, or tell you were to do the research to find out.

They are based in Philippines but I am pretty sure they use an IoM holding company for their UK license.

The Isle Of Man regulator is probably the best place for your solicitor to turn for advice on legal options.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 12-16-17, 12:54 PM

A minor confusion here might be that the Isle of Man isn't part of the UK - it has an odd status called a crown dependency (which roughly means it's independent except for defence/foreign affairs). Might be why the lawyer can't find them searching UK addresses.

**lonnie55** · 12-16-17, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I've said it before and bet I say it again... I firmly believe that most books that sponsor football teams are paying that much only to buy credibility they should not have.

Some of them, but surely not most.

My personal experience is that the risk of getting scammed by a sportsbook is higher when it doesn't do any sponsoring. The bigger the volume of the sponsoring the higher the liquidity of the company and therefore the smaller the risk of getting scammed.

I've been using Dafabet for more than 6 years and never experienced any kind of problem. In my view, it's a rock solid sportsbook (sister site of IBC AFAIK).

But I have to admit that it feels like there is some bad development ongoing with those UK books in recent times (->William Hill, Ladbrokes). Hopefully this is just a subjective perception which turns out to be wrong.

**Optional** · 12-16-17, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by lonnie55

Some of them, but surely not most.

My personal experience is that the risk of getting scammed by a sportsbook is higher when it doesn't do any sponsoring. The bigger the volume of the sponsoring the higher the liquidity of the company and therefore the smaller the risk of getting scammed.

I've been using Dafabet for more than 6 years and never experienced any kind of problem. In my view, it's a rock solid sportsbook (sister site of IBC AFAIK).

But I have to admit that it feels like there is some bad development ongoing with those UK books in recent times (->William Hill, Ladbrokes). Hopefully this is just a subjective perception which turns out to be wrong.

You probably have a point about the money in this case, as they sponsor so many. But I still think the main motivation is to buy credibility that a loosely regulated Asian book with an IoM front company to access the UK market would otherwise be unable to garner.

And although I agree IBC is 'solid' there has been loads of stories about their owners connections to criminal activity. Someone said that acc-exx site is part of IBC recently. If that turns out to be true it would pretty much turn me off them for good personally.

There are a lot of teams, and obviously some sponsor books already own credibility anyway, but I really believe everyone involved in the process knows that demand from dodgy bookmakers drive these sponsor deals up to unrealistic prices so are happy to keep the status quo.

**lonnie55** · 12-16-17, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Someone said that acc-exx site is part of IBC recently. If that turns out to be true it would pretty much turn me off them for good personally.

Don't confuse the broker, BET-IBC, with the sportsbook MAXBET (former IBCBET, I still call them IBC because I'm used to it). IBC is in the market for many years. I never heard anything bad about them.

**Optional** · 12-16-17, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by lonnie55

Don't confuse the broker, BET-IBC, with the sportsbook MAXBET (former IBCBET, I still call them IBC because I'm used to it). IBC is in the market for many years. I never heard anything bad about them.

Paul Phau gets a lot of bad publicity and accusations of match fixing and organized crime connections

Crown Casino high-roller named as threat to Australian sport

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-01/organised-crime-black-market-bookmakers-linked-to-match-fixing/7127246

One of Asia's biggest unregulated bookmakers — an alleged organised crime figure with links to Australia and Melbourne's Crown Casino — is identified by law enforcement as a potential threat to the integrity of sport across the country.

But I don't believe even the FBI was able to prove he owned it. So who knows. But agree the book has been fine for players.

I have considered Bet-IBC to be connected to IBC/Maxbet in the past, at least at heart.

**Alfa1234** · 12-16-17, 05:46 PM

Bet-IBC is simply an agent (and affiliate) for the well known IBC/Maxbet bookmaker. I'd consider the Bet-IBC agent pretty shady although not an outright scam, but IBCbet/Maxbet top notch.

**dafabetscam** · 12-16-17, 11:55 PM

Unfortunately we are not talking about the Asian version of DAFABET which we all know are reliable - we are talking about the UK facing version of DAFABET? SCAM or THIEVES?

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