Who in the hell is Lazerwager?

[Gary11746]

What did I do ?

Hello.. I am Matt Johnson, a marketing director here at Lazerwager, I have never posted in any forum before but I just wanted to advise that I offer my personal apologies if our donation to the person whose information leads to finding the culprit in the CA. fires somehow offended anybody. Putting Gary11746´s ridiculous claims aside for now and simply responding to the donation issue, Lazerwager, while not an advertiser here or on the gambling911.com site which shockingly had turned our good deed into a negative somehow, I can attest that our intentions were completely ingenuous.

I know this because I was part of the team lead by Robert Evans former exucutive of Nine.com and now with Lazerwager which brought 2 semi-truckloads of food and supplies to those people who suffered from Hurricane Katrina, so I know for sure his intentions here are also legitimate. As far as the $15 for the affected victims, we now see how that could have been misinterpreted by some people, but we spoke to a few of our friends who were forced from their homes and they thought it was a nice gesture to offer..not great.... but nice, maybe not for everybody... especially those who lost their homes, friends or worse, family members. Our hearts go out to those people. But as a marketer both in gaming and the corporate world, I know that like many marketing initiatives or good deeds, some will appreciate it.. some wont-it .And just as the press release said it was nothing more than offer to help them have some free gaming entertainment.."We hope that once they get back into their homes, resettled and getting on with their lives, they can enjoy an hour or 2 of some home based gaming entertainment to take their minds off of the situation for a little while and possibly win a few bucks too" ... At least we tried to do something. What did you do?

Being that you gave these victims $15 free plays to your site I can now say I contributed $15 to @53.8 of those people. That comes from the $807 your company stole from me.

I also think I read somewhere that Lazer Wager offered the Goldman family $50 dollars free plays and are actively helping OJ search for the real killers.
If these disasters weren't so horrific I'd actually find Your companies actions comical.
MR Johnson instead of going tit for tat the way I see this you have a business to run and I have a life to live,so we can end this once and for all. I will ask you for no money and will not get into a heated dispute. Your firm has my phone number. I want you to call me and we will speak like gentlemen and this whole dispute ends right then. Thats a promise.

[imgv94]

Looks like Gary came here to expose LazerWager and funny enough it was Gary himself who got exposed.

[Dead Money]

I wish more books would come to SBR to tell their side of the story.

This place provides a great medium for all parties to voice his or her side of a story. Hat's off to LW and others who actually check out the forums. They know that the people on all the gambling forums put alot of cash into the books.

BTW I would like to see more books come out with contests here at SBR. If they gave away 16k for every week in football I would thank it would be some cheap publicity.

Cmon SBR get after some of your sponsors and get them to come up with some stuff.

[imgv94]

Yeah SBR having only one contest sucks..

All the other major sites have numerous contests.

[Gary11746]

Lol

Looks like Gary came here to expose LazerWager and funny enough it was Gary himself who got exposed.

How? Nothing here has been proven and when I offered proof the board here rejected it.

Sometimes people can't be helped. I think you should start playing very heavy with Lazer Wager. I think you should buy your kids recalled toys from China, I think you should feed your dog tainted dog food and eat all the recalled spinach with ecoli Its your money and not mine. Eventually it will be theres. Never met a gambler who won. It seems like you were born to gamble because you sound like a born loser.
This MB has very little to do with the truth its who has the most friends posting here. I tried to portray my side of this story and I still believe the facts,motive and truth are all on my side.
If I really wanted to I could get 10 + "great posts Gary" and have my friends and family flood this MB. However this MB is not worth the time.
MY offer still is out there to the upper management of Lazer Wager to call and resolve this situation.

[Gary11746]

Looks like Gary came here to expose LazerWager and funny enough it was Gary himself who got exposed.

Were you a jurror at the OJ trial. If I asked you to state with proof point by point how I was exposed you'd be lost.
Because lazer Wager said so, thats your proof?

Lazer Wager has been caught in numerous lies already.
1) They stated I called for a refund due to gambling losses, I had no losses and if I did how much would be left to refund I gamble $100-$200 + each play. My initial deposit was for $300.00 Why would I be asking for a refund?
2) The truth is their casino software does not work with AOL and that is why I requested a refund.
3) If they are truthful and stated they offered a refund then Why would I refuse it?
The list of lies goes on and on. Since you have NO proof and just talk out of your a*S then you exposed yourself as either a complete and total moron or just a friend of someone in Lazer Wager. Maybe they offered you that big $15 dollar free play.

[Mason]

Gary, go back to the shed you tool!

[Gary11746]

Heres my plays At LW WOW HEAVY LOSSES ?

Initial Date:
Final Date:
History for Player




Player lzw1131
User/Phone Ticket Date Sport Description Risk/Win Amount Result Balance Placed
Internet Spread
Ticket # 28606176-1
9/21/07 2:20 PM MLB /Baseball 951 Pittsburgh Pirates +1½ +100 (P Maholm -L) Must Pitch (J Marquis -R) Must Pitch 50/50 -50 Loss -50 9/21/07
10:35 AM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 28606296-1
9/22/07 12:00 PM College /Football 314 Akron +2 -110 44/40 40 Win -10 9/21/07
10:38 AM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 28606296-2
9/22/07 6:00 PM College /Football 344 California -13½ -110 38/35 35 Win 25 9/21/07
10:38 AM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 28606103-1
9/23/07 1:00 PM NFL /Football 404 Philadelphia Eagles -5½ -110 44/40 40 Win 65 9/21/07
10:29 AM
Internet Total
Ticket # 28606103-2
9/23/07 1:00 PM NFL /Football 407 Miami Dolphins at New York Jets Ov 35½ -110 30/28 28 Win 93 9/21/07
10:29 AM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 28606103-3
9/23/07 4:05 PM NFL /Football 420 Oakland Raiders -3 -120 36/30 -36 Loss 57 9/21/07
10:29 AM
Internet Total
Ticket # 30002424-1
10/18/07 7:45 PM College /Football 301 South Florida at Rutgers Ov 52½ -110 440/400 400 Win 457 10/18/07
9:51 AM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 30034899-1
10/20/07 4:00 PM College /Football 310 Syracuse -3½ -110 770/700 700 Win 1157 10/18/07
8:49 PM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 30034922-1
10/20/07 4:00 PM College /Football 310 Syracuse -3½ -110 77/70 70 Win 1227 10/18/07
8:51 PM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 30144313-1
10/21/07 4:05 PM NFL /Football 423 New York Jets +6½ -110 1,100/1,000 -1100 Loss 127 10/20/07
5:14 PM
Internet Total
Ticket # 30144901-1
10/21/07 1:00 PM NFL /Football 405 Arizona Cardinals at Washington Redskins Ov 36 -110 220/200 200 Win 327 10/20/07
5:17 PM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 30144901-2
10/21/07 4:15 PM NFL /Football 426 Philadelphia Eagles -6 -110 275/250 -275 Loss 52 10/20/07
5:17 PM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 30325276-1
10/22/07 8:30 PM NFL /Football 433 Indianapolis Colts -3 -120 420/350 350 Win 402 10/22/07
4:16 PM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 30325311-1
10/22/07 8:30 PM NFL /Football 433 Indianapolis Colts -3 -120 18/15 15 Win 417 10/22/07
4:17 PM
Total 14 Bets 3562/3208 417 417

[Gary11746]

Now let them post and show when they issued me a refund. LOL

[Skankdog]

sounds like a boiler room to me

[Gary11746]

Thank You SkankDog

Finally a man of reason. I must be a terrible guy getting beat at a new site and trying to help others not get taken.
However this is Lazer Wagers MB and we know they post here so it really doesn't suprise me that a company trying to gain off the tragic fires in San Diego,wouldn't have a few of their own cronies post attacking messages without substance against me.

[Gary11746]

There story makes no sense

They want you to believe they left this acct open in error after I beat them. I was betting 1000 plus and they didn't know that?
LAZER WAGER=SPAM AND SCAM.

Look how low they have sunk that they have to post against me on this piss ant MB.

NOthing suprises me with this Scam Company.

*NOTE i gave them the chance and call and settle this but no one from upper management has picked up the phone.
I now believe they would ask the janitor to call and make as if he is upper management to make me back off.

This company will suffer real damage for the small amt they stole from me. It shows we all have the power to fight back.

I love the fact when you google their name all you see is Scam and Thieves and If that turned away just one big gambler then I just kicked the crap out of them.
The funny thing is I have not even started to get the anti Lazer Wager campaign moving. That all begins to change real soon when I get to tell this story to numerous others tomorrow each will be encouraged to post afew neg reviews about this company in other avenues we haven't hit yet.
What fools all I wanted was an apology and to have them donate my winnings without strings attached to the victims of the wildfires in Calf.

[Gary11746]

The Funny Thing Is They Called ME

The A Hole Jay called me and told me that he wanted me to join his site as he used to work for Nine.com and wanted MY business because I was a good client of theirs. Notice I've bet with both Nine.com and BoDOg,I play heavy and never had any accusations made against me by those companies. Also I never many any bad statements about Bodog or Nine.com either.
SO an established Gambler like myself chose to start a $300 Scam with a new Piss ant company that RECRUITED ME.
LOL for those that believe that I have Real estate to sell you.
GO ahead Lazer wager Tell them all that you recruited me. If I was starting a scam I think I would be the one to start calling companies. Thank G-D I only let them get $300 and I keep the bulk of my playing funds with BOdog.(A GREAT COMPANY)

For those impartial readers here watch how my post gets bashed with comments that Have ZERO FACTS. They can't argue facts when they have none.

[20Four7]

OK let's run through this. You didn't make a charge back and according to your own betting record from 9/21 to 9/23 your largest bet was $50. Then after not wagering again until 10/18 (25 days) you pop it for $400 then pop it again for over $700 after the $400 won. Then pop it again for $1,100.

I say you went.... whooo f'n whoooo I got my money from the bank I"m gonna free roll this puppy. Which you did then tried to cash out which they disallowed. If anything your betting patterns posted make it look more likely that Lazer is telling the truth.

User/Phone Ticket Date Sport Description Risk/Win Amount Result Balance Placed
Internet Spread
Ticket # 28606176-1
9/21/07 2:20 PM MLB /Baseball 951 Pittsburgh Pirates +1½ +100 (P Maholm -L) Must Pitch (J Marquis -R) Must Pitch 50/50 -50 Loss -50 9/21/07
10:35 AM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 28606296-1
9/22/07 12:00 PM College /Football 314 Akron +2 -110 44/40 40 Win -10 9/21/07
10:38 AM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 28606296-2
9/22/07 6:00 PM College /Football 344 California -13½ -110 38/35 35 Win 25 9/21/07
10:38 AM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 28606103-1
9/23/07 1:00 PM NFL /Football 404 Philadelphia Eagles -5½ -110 44/40 40 Win 65 9/21/07
10:29 AM
Internet Total
Ticket # 28606103-2
9/23/07 1:00 PM NFL /Football 407 Miami Dolphins at New York Jets Ov 35½ -110 30/28 28 Win 93 9/21/07
10:29 AM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 28606103-3
9/23/07 4:05 PM NFL /Football 420 Oakland Raiders -3 -120 36/30 -36 Loss 57 9/21/07

25 days later

10:29 AM
Internet Total
Ticket # 30002424-1
10/18/07 7:45 PM College /Football 301 South Florida at Rutgers Ov 52½ -110 440/400 400 Win 457 10/18/07
9:51 AM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 30034899-1
10/20/07 4:00 PM College /Football 310 Syracuse -3½ -110 770/700 700 Win 1157 10/18/07
8:49 PM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 30034922-1
10/20/07 4:00 PM College /Football 310 Syracuse -3½ -110 77/70 70 Win 1227 10/18/07
8:51 PM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 30144313-1
10/21/07 4:05 PM NFL /Football 423 New York Jets +6½ -110 1,100/1,000 -1100 Loss 127 10/20/07
5:14 PM
Internet Total
Ticket # 30144901-1
10/21/07 1:00 PM NFL /Football 405 Arizona Cardinals at Washington Redskins Ov 36 -110 220/200 200 Win 327 10/20/07
5:17 PM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 30144901-2
10/21/07 4:15 PM NFL /Football 426 Philadelphia Eagles -6 -110 275/250 -275 Loss 52 10/20/07
5:17 PM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 30325276-1
10/22/07 8:30 PM NFL /Football 433 Indianapolis Colts -3 -120 420/350 350 Win 402 10/22/07
4:16 PM
Internet Spread
Ticket # 30325311-1
10/22/07 8:30 PM NFL /Football 433 Indianapolis Colts -3 -120 18/15 15 Win 417 10/22/07
4:17 PM
Total 14 Bets 3562/3208 417 417

[imgv94]

Hey guys.

Here is Gary trying to rob a liquor store

[Gary11746]

So let me get this straight. Now your'e an expert in betting patterns. Could it have anything to do with which games I liked more than others?
Lazer Wager made the statement that this all started because I was disgruntled about losses. Please show me what losses would have me disgruntled.
Also are you telling me that Lazer Wager knew I charged back (which is not true) . The only thing I did was request a simple refund because their software did not work AND THEY STILL ALLOWED A CLOSED ACCT TO BET $1000 on games?
Are you stating that this company is that INCOMPETANT? or is it more likely after I beat them instead of paying the fat Broad Eve used my refund request not to pay. (I hope she bought some diet pills).
Hey genius I also explained that they recruited me because of my outstanding history at Nine.com.,and it still has not sunk in to your thick skull that it was them who pulled this scam.
If I was going to scam I would of deposited much more than $300. To bank my payroll especially if I knew I was going to do a charge back. Thats why you are not taken serious as it is obvious you have a vested interest in the good name of Lazer Wager.
Posting on this MB is a waste, its their board. I will now post on Bodog and Nine.coms MB (as those are their potential customers who they are trying to whore away from established companies)
When you return from Never Never land maybe you will see the truth. However I am giving you the benefit of the doubt by stating that you may be connected to Lazer The Scam Wager because I find it impossible for you to really be this stupid.
OH by the way I'm still waiting for you to back up any of your statements with proof....or logic. It appears you have neither.

[Gary11746]

Hey guys.

Here is Gary trying to rob a liquor store

And if it was Lazer The Scam Wager entering with the gun you would fault the clerk for not helping him hold his gun steady.

***Still No Proof offered from the Scammers at Loser Wager****

[Gary11746]

OK let's run through this. You didn't make a charge back and according to your own betting record from 9/21 to 9/23 your largest bet was $50. Then after not wagering again until 10/18 (25 days) you pop it for $400 then pop it again for over $700 after the $400 won. Then pop it again for $1,100.

I say you went.... whooo f'n whoooo I got my money from the bank I"m gonna free roll this puppy. Which you did then tried to cash out which they disallowed. If anything your betting patterns posted make it look more likely that Lazer is telling the truth.

****All of those bets were made with a closed acct*** I must be really good or Loser Wager must be totally inept to allow clients to bet with closed accts.

What about Lazer Dans lying Post that I wanted to get a refund due to losses? Where is the losses? Oh I know losers who guys don't care about facts you just want to stop me from killing business at Loser Wager.
Loser wager will be chapter 11 in 6-8 months. I'd advise you losers to find a different line of work. Hey today is Halloween maybe you could steal some candy from the kids today.lol

[Gary11746]

Todays News

Today many more lost their homes in the San Diego fires,but on a happy note they did get free $15 wager vouchers from Loser wager to gamble as soon as they can find food and shelter.
It goes to show what Morons they have working there. I heard rumors that they are going have a special promotion soon for the soliders families that lost loved ones in Iraq.
When they interviewed Matt Dick (i mean Johnson) ah same thing he said thats a strong possibility as people love to drown their sorrows with booze and gambling. He also stated that Loser wager has no plans for Afghanastan as of yet.
He claimed "We need to rip off a few more customers before we can issue any further vouchers".

[20Four7]

Lazer hasn't shown me where they scammed you. You got your deposit back from the book (via the banks own money you state). I'm not an expert in betting patterns but the pattern shown there more accurately jives with lazer's version than your own.

You HAVE not filed a complaint with SBR as you certainly would have answered Taco's multiple questions about if you had. You go from betting $50 max to maxing the account out after a 3 week absense. While I do believe you may have liked some games more than others no one goes from a $50 max to 1,100 like that. Chargebacks take time to show up at the book especially since they don't process anything on their own but use my pay call as a processor.

Your betting pattern prior to the absense don't show a loss but they don't show any poker/casino games either. I don't know if you played there. Your complaint seemed to hinge that the casino didn't work with AOL.

All in all you have contributed nothing to this forum. I certainly don't believe your story, and lazer is probably bending the truth as well. There is always 3 sides to every dispute, your side, his side and the truth. What you posted shows me that you took a shot at them (in my opinion). As far as I am concerned this case is closed. I will leave you alone to rant to anyone who cares enough, as I'd rather hear from Imgv or someone reputable who has tried to cash out and ran into problems.

Take care.

[Gary11746]

Good enough. Just for the record neither Lazer wager nor My Pay call issued a refund. The casino didn't work so there was no losses there(in fact if it did work I would never of requested a refund to begin with)
I do agree that we are going around here in circles and we've beaten this thing to death.
I will still tell all that gamble my opinion of Lazer wager. The fact is if I did try to scam and was caught I would never take this story to the internet. I have a very good betting history with Bodog and the idea that I tried to scam them when they contacted me as Jay said because I was a good client at Nine.com makes no sense. Again if I knew I was going to try and pull a charge back then my initial deposit would of been much higher than $300. It would only make sense that the greater the deposit the heavier I could bet and scam.
Ps for your info i did file a complaint with SBR but at this time I have not heard back.
Just wanted to Thank you for at least being civil during your last response. Good luck to you.

[tacomax]

Ps for your info i did file a complaint with SBR but at this time I have not heard back.

Super. Now we can get the impartial SBR version of what happened.

[Lazerwager Admin]

Thank You for your support

Hello , Robert Evans here VP of Marketing for Lazerwager. I would first like to thank SBR for allowing us to post here even though we are not an advertiser as yet. I would also like to thank some of you for your support regarding GARY11746 recent and continued bashing of us. I think our director of operations, Mr. Del Gato answered his claims efficiently and shown that his assertations are absolutely incorrect. I will stop short of calling Mr. Gary a liar or even a scammer because I think it comes down to the simple matter that GARY11746 does not understand exactly what a ********** is and how it works. I think that in his mind he thinks that his bank gave them their money to keep him a happy client. He of course is dead wrong.

He does not realize that the bank then simply takes the money from the funds they owe us then in fact creating a refund to his account in effect issued by us..not directly of course but indirectly by the bank itself. Obviously having issued a refund to his account, we are not going to keep his account open, allow him to continue playing once we are informed of a ********** situation. Most times we are notified by our bank months after a **********, but in this case, I believe Mr GAry informed us of the ********** himself, thereby immediately suspending his account and obviously any winnings.

Yes some mistakes were made by our staff being new, since we were unaware of his request for a ********** and he was therefore able to place a few sports wagers before we were notified (by him) of the ********** and yes our salesperson did contact him PRIOR to us being notified about the ********** trying to get him to make a deposit. We are not perfect, nor are we a boiler room. Agressive ..maybe, Ignorant ...no.. not while I am here. I do therefore apologize for for our salesperson JAY advsing GARY that our cs person EVE was terminated which was not true. This is the only non truth told to MR. GARY and JAY was dealt with harshly and will not EVER say something that is not true. We dont sacrifice our integrity for a deposit.

I would also like to say that yes our live dealer casino may not work on some AOL browsers as we use the latest technology, which supposedly is the reason Mr. Gary wanted a refund initially. Of course we can dispute this later if need be. But we will leave his claim intact for now, but there is a disclaimer on the top of our site that advises users that our site advises AOL users to have the newest versions all browsers to see our site correctly. Sorry Mr. Gary if you did not see that disclaimer clearly written at the top of our site.

Also I would to thank Mr. GAry for being a good client of my prior company nine.com which I served as an executive for 3 years. I am now guiding Lazerwager no different than I did Nine.com Professionally and honestly. I don´t think we need Mr. Gary´s $300 deposit that bad. He has been slammed in every forum he has posted over this issue but still fails to see the truth but the facts are what they are. He chargedback. Account gets Closed. There is nothing more to defend in my eyes.

Moving on to another subject and unfortunately, bad timing on our part which gave Mr. Gary some additional ammo to fire upon us regarding our donation of 10k to help find the culprit starting the CA fires. While our offer is in fact real and sincere, somehow it was turned into a negative by gambling911.com which Mr. GAry used against us. WHile I can attest that the timing was bad and maybe perceived as insensitive to the victims but as I have said in a few other forums, our aim was true, but like many marketing campaigns aimed at doing good... get beaten up, twisted around and scoffed at. As the saying goes, No good deed goes unpunished" and we got bit by it BIG TIME. My sincerest apologies to anyone who thinks we were insensitive or callous, My personal apologies. But the reality is some of our clients appreciated the diversion to play in the casino for free and some obviously dont. At least we tried to do something good. Nothing can replace our heartfelt sorrow for our clients losses as well as everyone else who has been displaced due to this tragedy, but if you read the actual press release we put out which I believe is still on our website, and not the gambling911 or Mr. Gary version of the story, I hope you will see where our true intentions lie.......Until further bashing of Lazerwager, I wish you all a prosperous season.

[Gary11746]

MR Evans

I appreciate you taking the time to post your side. I will tell you what I am going to do. I am going to copy and paste your nicely written post and forward it to the Bank Of America. I will then have the Bank of America The credit card acct which I made my deposit to your company state where the money came from that reimbursed my Credit Card. I will ask them point blank to state if it came from
1) Lazer Wager

2) MY PAY Call

3) The Banks Own Money and that no refund ever was issued from #1 or #2 Even though they requested it.
I had long talks with my bank and am completely aware that no refund was ever credited by Lazer or My Pay call. I will have them put it in writing.
If I am wrong I will apologize to all involved. If I am correct then I'd like to know what your firm intends to do about it.
This is not a gray area anymore it's Black and White. Your version is I got a charge back in essence from you and I say Lazer wager and My Pay call never issued any refund at all.
As soon as I get a response from the Bank of America I will Post it here.
Again I do appreciate the fact that you took the time to post and just maybe we can finally put an end to this dispute.

[Gary11746]

To All members Of this forum

Just got off the phone with The Bank of America and they again reiterated with no uncertainty that NO charge Back or Refund ever came from Lazer wager or My Pay call. I asked them to email this to me but because of the personel info they are prohibited from doing it via email. However they are drafting up a letter that will be mailed to me and I will scan it and post the truth here. The refund I received was 100% the Bank Of Americas money and no money was held back from Lazer wager or My pay call. This letter may take a few days to recieve and I anxiously await what action Mr Evans will take when he reads it.
In Fact I welcome Mr Evans To Call me anytime as his company has my phone # and we can engage in a 3 way call with Myself,Lazer wager and The Bank of America . If what Mr Evans posted is the truth he will monitor this MB and reply to the letter I will post as soon as it arrives.

[Gary11746]

I believe Mr GAry informed us of the ********** himself, thereby immediately suspending his account and obviously any winnings. (WRONG) the acct was kept open for almost a month and my request for a refund was made 3 hrs after I joined his site. (IMMEDIATELY ) suspending my acct? My Bets went on for almost a month after that. Why was no refund issued when a client states the casino is not working and requests one that day and was promised one that day?


since we were unaware of his request for a ********** and he was therefore able to place a few sports wagers before we were notified (by him) (WRONG) MY bets were made over a 21 day period. My request for a refund came on the day I joined. How could you be unaware that I wanted a refund? read your above quote

I would also like to say that yes our live dealer casino may not work on some AOL browsers as we use the latest technology, which supposedly is the reason Mr. Gary wanted a refund initially. ( Yes) That is correct so how come I never received a refund THAT day when I asked for one BECAUSE THE CASINO DIDN"T WORK?

I don´t think we need Mr. Gary´s $300 deposit that bad. (Wrong) Obviously you do because the day I joined the casino didn't work I asked for refund and was told OK yet I never received one and when I called to inquire Eve told me I'm not getting one.? Yet the acct remained open for almost a month.

Now Please address Dan Delgato Post to this Board
"As Director of Operations, I wanted to explain what this complaint is about and restore the good name of LazerWager.com

NOTE: Bottom line is that this guy “Gary,” real name xxxx. from New York, is a SCAMMER and I am posting his real name here so others in our industry can blacklist him and not get taken by the same scam!!!

This player called us complaining about losses and told us to close his account "
WOW one of you guys didn't get your story straight. He claims I called complaing about losses and you state I called about the AOL Software. Well MR Delgato is a liar because I had no losses to complain about and You MR Evans are Correct about the refund request coming form The software problem. So when you State That MR Delgato handled my accusations and responded correctly that is a lie.
Now we have 2 lies The Jay lie about Eve being fired and Dan Degato's lie about the dispute stemming fom gambling losses.
There are way more than just those two. When I post the truth from the Bank Of America Letter I hope you will respond.
If you are such a big and upcoming company then send the Bank back their $300 and Me my winnings and own up to this huge mistake that your company had made. It would of just been easier to state the check got lost in the mail.
Again I will prove with a letter from MY Bank that NO Money was ever refunde or charged back from Lazer wager or My pay call.

[Gary11746]

To those that post here and read this MB who remain truely impartial,I hope you are seeing the unraveling of Lazer wagers fictional version of the events.

Dan claimed I called complaining about losses

Evans stated I called to cancel because of a software issue

Evans admitted Jay called and lied

Why would jay call at all if the acct was closed and suspended as dan stated?

Why wasn't a refund issued as promised the 1st day the acct opened up?

Lazer Wager keeps stating that they proved their case but yet they have not shown 1 item of proof.
I have shown the history of my acct and that it remained open for close to a month contrary to Lazer wager claiming the acct was suspended immediatly after my request of a charge back.
Do they have books? Do you have records? If so show the paper work of my $300 leaving my acct and going back to my Bank. IF you can't prove that then what your saying is you can do that to any big winner or little winner by claiming he asked for a charge back and you never have to pay out. What person would ever leave himself that vulnerable and at the mercy of the Book? The fact is you can't prove it or you would.
Now on the other hand I am going to great lengths to prove my version and I will post a Letter from The Bank Of America contradicting every thing you stated. I will have no problem showing proof.
I really find it quite sad that you stated you didn't need my $300 that bad. Obviously you did. You claim and acknowledge my AOL software problem and stated I wanted a refund. What was so difficult about issuing one? Instead your company has posted numerous posts attacking my story offering no proof and to me a VP's time is more valuable than posting here. You chose to fight over not refunding my $300. When it became clear that no refund was ever going to be issued I decided to play with my money that I deposited in your company and I won. The acct stayed open for 21 days and no one in your company picked up the acct was closed. I can't believe that or real scammers would be putting you guys right out of business. The truth is if you issued a refund or I instituted a charge back (neither happened) then my acct would of been closed on the spot. If that error your claiming is true than you better be Vping a little better and fire those that mistakenly left my refunded or charge back acct open.
The whole total of my winnings were $807 and Lazer Wager is fighting like hell even though they know their wrong,admitted lying and still refuse to payout such a small amt. That shows all those following this that you guys are basically the boiler room gaming site you denied so strongly.

MR Evans I challenge you to post back when I post the letter from my Credit card company the Bank of America.

By the way The many I have shown these posts to think Im tearing your story apart. The only bashing I have gotten is when you tell Eve and jay to sign on and post. Desperate actions. Even with your hired cheerleading section I have poked so many holes in your companies story that its becoming very clear to those that read. I have filed an SBR compaint,and will expose your site with my own web page soon. The proof Im showing will be there for all to see.
MR Evans if you really are a VP and you really care about this situation then call me tomorrow and lets work this out.
I will post to all if this Vp who has the time to post here had the time to call his ex client and not keep airing his dirty laundry in public. To me thats just Bad Business. Now I offered Dan a chance to call but he clammed up. Are you going to do the same? Of course if your really not who you claim then you wouldn't have access to my phone number. That is why Dan didn't call. Maybe you and Dan and Joe Bartoli are one in the same.

[tacomax]

To those that post here and read this MB who remain truely impartial,I hope you are seeing the unraveling of Lazer wagers fictional version of the events.

No, I'm not seeing that.

However, you have seemingly provided details of this to SBR so why not wait until they have a chance to investigate rather than carry on this pissing match?

[Dumb_lucK]

Good enough. Just for the record neither Lazer wager nor My Pay call issued a refund.

Still waiting to see the B of A letter stating that they didn't charge back, but bruce the manager there decided out of the goodness of his heart to you he's give you a free $300.00 back on your card.

Face it, whether you like to admit it or not, you or your bank charged back this $300.00 deposit. As I seen in the thread you posted from another forum, LW offered to refund you and you declined. Therefore you magically got $300.00 back, LW Obviously has proof from their processor about a ********** request (I'm certain their privacy policy doesn't allow them to show us all). Why don't you request the proof from LW and post it up for us? Show us we're all wrong?

[jjgold]

So many scammers that gamble on both ends

[Rollins08]

I can not believe this thread is still going on. Any credibility that Gary had went right out the window the first couple of posts when he said that Bank of America just gave him $300. Banks are in business to make money, they don't just give away $300. Has anyone else gotten free money from a bank ever? Basically he is saying the bank said "we know you gambled and can't do a charge back, but here is $300 because we like you. Anyone arguing with him at this point is just as dumb as he is.

[Gary11746]

Just Wait for the Letter. I will show you proof.
When you are a victim of Identity theft who covers your losses?
Yes Rollins the Bank. I use my card to the tune of $40,000 a year for $300 they decided to keep me. Hence you have no idea of what you're talking about.
You don't have to speculate I will provide proof backing up my acct.

[Rollins08]

When will you provide this proof? I've seen enough posts where you state that you will show proof but have yet to see any. Also I doubt that Bank of America wants to really keep known gamblers as their customers.

[Gary11746]

Yes as soon as I get the letter. Yes no credit card wants Gamblers. I guess they just haven't decided how to lose all their clients

1)Lotto players and scratch offs-yes thats gambling

2) Super bowl boxes-see ya
3) The track Player
4) any charges on a card to Vegas plane fare,Hotel room-Cut his card up etc. This also includes other types of vacations such as cruises and Aruba, Paradise Island.
5) The little old Bingo Player

MR Rollins are you serious? Thats like saying they don't like spendaholics. If you pay your card and have a good credit history they don't care. I believe you are confusing your credit card company with your mother.

JUST WAIT FOR THE LETTER

[Rollins08]

By known gamblers I meant illegal gambling of course. Its sad that I have to clarify this for you. Can you get this letter faxed or e-mailed to you? I am very curious as to how you are going to forge this.