[Crusherrr]

Yeah, I think that is a sign-up bonus, I don't think that is for existing players.

In my cashier it showed as available to me. I still had a few bucks in the account so I've deposited there previously.

[thomorino]

Yeah, its not available on my account when I log in. All the bonus is, is 1k with a rollover of 10k. If you bet 10k you are probably laying 1k in juice, which is the amount of the bonus. The bonus just let's you bet without juice, which is nice, but I wouldn't say it means topbet is desperate, I'd just the rollover at most offshore books are ridiculous.

[milwaukee mike]

Yeah, you don't know what your talking about. Once you request a withdrawal they take the money out of your account and won't put it back in so even if you aren't getting paid you can't play there with that money. My point though is that the number of people playing in their tournaments has doubled in the last week going into football season, your point about it being balances being stuck is stupid, doesn't explain the number of players doubling this week when the book has been slow paying for 5 months.

they won't put the money back if you take a bonus to cancel the withdrawal?

unreal that you've had money taken out of your account for 5 months, haven't been paid, and still aren't roasting these thieves

the part about them surviving if they have a good football season made me LOL

[thomorino]

they won't put the money back if you take a bonus to cancel the withdrawal?

unreal that you've had money taken out of your account for 5 months, haven't been paid, and still aren't roasting these thieves

the part about them surviving if they have a good football season made me LOL

Again, this is another ignorant post. Nobody has been waiting for 5 months, some people have been waiting going on 2 months and that is unacceptable, but obviously the beginning of football season and new deposits should change things. I don't know of anyone who has been offered a bonus to cancel a withdrawal in the last couple months, I think that was just right after the super bowl when they got hit hard and didn't have any deposits coming in.

[R40]

Again, this is another ignorant post. Nobody has been waiting for 5 months, some people have been waiting going on 2 months and that is unacceptable, but obviously the beginning of football season and new deposits should change things. I don't know of anyone who has been offered a bonus to cancel a withdrawal in the last couple months, I think that was just right after the super bowl when they got hit hard and didn't have any deposits coming in.

We are waiting 5 months.

[thomorino]

We are waiting 5 months.

I don't know of anyone waiting 5 months, you are saying you have a payout request from March? There may be one or 2 people I don't know of any.

[R40]

I don't know of anyone waiting 5 months, you are saying you have a payout request from March? There may be one or 2 people I don't know of any.

Yes. I have not seen anyone that is waiting later than March except for those that made requests later. The timeframe is presently March.

[thomorino]

Yes. I have not seen anyone that is waiting later than March except for those that made requests later. The timeframe is presently March.

Yeah, I don't think many people are waiting since March, but the books appears to have made a decision that they won't process payments until football season starts and deposits come in, my sense is from talking to customer service is that topbet has good intentions just not enough capital.

[R40]

Yeah, I don't think many people are waiting since March, but the books appears to have made a decision that they won't process payments until football season starts and deposits come in, my sense is from talking to customer service is that topbet has good intentions just not enough capital.

That's called being bust. They have two SBR complaints on file since March. You would think they would want to resolve those. They are claiming processor issues on pending payments 5 months old. This is end stage.

[thomorino]

That's called being bust. They have two SBR complaints on file since March. You would think they would want to resolve those. They are claiming processor issues on pending payments 5 months old. This is end stage.

The number of people playing in their free tournaments has doubled in the last week, they are still getting deposits, and some people are getting paid, see the OSGA link I posted - people on OSGA reported being paid as recently as last week. I think very few people from March have not been paid. I would say topbet is struggling, but I would not say this is the end stage given they appear to still be getting deposits and paying some people.

[R40]

Yes, you've been saying that a while. They were underwater last football season. They are way underwater this football season. People have reported having to wait 6 months before so maybe they will pay. But at this point, it looks pretty bad for this books future and this is not a small book from what I know.

[5mike5]

they won't put the money back if you take a bonus to cancel the withdrawal?

unreal that you've had money taken out of your account for 5 months, haven't been paid, and still aren't roasting these thieves

Ithe part about them surviving if they have a good football season made me LOL

totally agree. Sad to watch lol

[milwaukee mike]

Again, this is another ignorant post. Nobody has been waiting for 5 months, some people have been waiting going on 2 months and that is unacceptable, but obviously the beginning of football season and new deposits should change things. I don't know of anyone who has been offered a bonus to cancel a withdrawal in the last couple months, I think that was just right after the super bowl when they got hit hard and didn't have any deposits coming in.

Topbet Sportsbook Player Owed $7,500

08.08.2017A Topbet Sportsbook player has claimed he has not received three payouts for a total of $7,500. The first payout request was dated March 25. The second and third requests were made in May. He has received only generic updates from Topbet since. SBR has requested comment from Topbet management.

[milwaukee mike]

Again, this is another ignorant post. Nobody has been waiting for 5 months, some people have been waiting going on 2 months and that is unacceptable, but obviously the beginning of football season and new deposits should change things. I don't know of anyone who has been offered a bonus to cancel a withdrawal in the last couple months, I think that was just right after the super bowl when they got hit hard and didn't have any deposits coming in.

Topbet Player Reports Being Offered Bonus to Cancel Payout

07.06.2017Three new Topbet Sportsbook (SBR rating F) payout complaints have been filed. The players have been waiting as far back as March 27 for payment. One of the players reported that he was offered a bonus in exchange for cancelling his delinquent withdrawal request; a common tactic among slow-pay sports betting sites.

[thomorino]

Topbet Player Reports Being Offered Bonus to Cancel Payout

07.06.2017Three new Topbet Sportsbook (SBR rating F) payout complaints have been filed. The players have been waiting as far back as March 27 for payment. One of the players reported that he was offered a bonus in exchange for cancelling his delinquent withdrawal request; a common tactic among slow-pay sports betting sites.

There is nothing in this post suggesting a bonus was offered in the last couple months since the player did not report when the bonus was offered. The fact that a couple people are waiting since late March who are due large amounts does not change my read that most players are waiting 2-3 months. None of the complaints you've posted go back 5 months.

[thomorino]

Yes, you've been saying that a while. They were underwater last football season. They are way underwater this football season. People have reported having to wait 6 months before so maybe they will pay. But at this point, it looks pretty bad for this books future and this is not a small book from what I know.

I think its possible there are a couple people do large amounts that go back to March that haven't been paid, my sense is most people haven't been waiting more than 2-3 months. Obviously the situation is less than ideal, but there are multiple people who have reported being paid within the last 2 weeks and football season starts in less than 3 weeks. I think the odds of topbet being viable a year from now are better than 50-50, I know that is the opinion of OSGA as well.

[ALLSTAR86]

I have three payout for $2,500 each from March. There are a bunch of people that requested around the time I did. Check the other topbet post. They haven't paid anyone for over a month.

[ALLSTAR86]

Every time I cell they offer to give me a 100% bonus to cancel my payout.... this is truly a shitty situation

[thomorino]

Every time I cell they offer to give me a 100% bonus to cancel my payout.... this is truly a shitty situation

Yeah, it makes sense a couple of the bigger payouts topbet owes date back to before 2-3 months ago, I don't think there are that many, but obviously topbet will need things to go their way come football season.


Its interesting that topbet is still in business and still paying, but obviously not paying much of what they owe. They seem to be paying people who harrass them the most.

[milwaukee mike]

I think its possible there are a couple people do large amounts that go back to March that haven't been paid, my sense is most people haven't been waiting more than 2-3 months. Obviously the situation is less than ideal, but there are multiple people who have reported being paid within the last 2 weeks and football season starts in less than 3 weeks. I think the odds of topbet being viable a year from now are better than 50-50, I know that is the opinion of OSGA as well.

post something from osga that says that

they are #1 on osga blacklist

topbet isn't even viable NOW, let alone a year from now... putting the odds at better than 50-50 shows that you have an agenda that doesn't involve rational thought or telling the truth

[thomorino]

post something from osga that says that

they are #1 on osga blacklist

topbet isn't even viable NOW, let alone a year from now... putting the odds at better than 50-50 shows that you have an agenda that doesn't involve rational thought or telling the truth

Lol, your suggesting I have an agenda now. I have talked to Dave at OSGA mutliple times and he has said that if topbet does well in the football season everything should be fine. One thing you forget, topbet has always been a slow paying book, this is the worst its been, but this is not entirely new territory. OSGA has also said that part of the problem is topbet's money is in places that makes paying US customers hard. Saying that topbet's chances of making it are 60-65% is not a strong endorsement. There are credible reports of people being paid in the last 2 weeks on link I posted. They did make it to football season, and that was the big question.

[milwaukee mike]

Lol, your suggesting I have an agenda now. I have talked to Dave at OSGA mutliple times and he has said that if topbet does well in the football season everything should be fine. One thing you forget, topbet has always been a slow paying book, this is the worst its been, but this is not entirely new territory. OSGA has also said that part of the problem is topbet's money is in places that makes paying US customers hard. Saying that topbet's chances of making it are 60-65% is not a strong endorsement. There are credible reports of people being paid in the last 2 weeks on link I posted. They did make it to football season, and that was the big question.

THERE IS NO MONEY

they sure don't have a problem taking money in the other direction, unless someone has been waiting since march to make a deposit?

[R40]

It is a little odd that a book focused on the US would have its money in places that make it hard to pay US customers and the only time this became a problem was when they went bust.

[thomorino]

It is a little odd that a book focused on the US would have its money in places that make it hard to pay US customers and the only time this became a problem was when they went bust.

This is not the only time topbet has had trouble paying on time, complaints about topbet paying slow go back to 2015, but I did not say I accept Dave's response on that issue, just found it interesting. Topbet is fairly big in the Philippines where they are headquartered I think, but obviously the biggest issue topbet faces is recreational bettors are having their best year in decades.

[milwaukee mike]

Lol, your suggesting I have an agenda now. I have talked to Dave at OSGA mutliple times and he has said that if topbet does well in the football season everything should be fine. One thing you forget, topbet has always been a slow paying book, this is the worst its been, but this is not entirely new territory. OSGA has also said that part of the problem is topbet's money is in places that makes paying US customers hard. Saying that topbet's chances of making it are 60-65% is not a strong endorsement. There are credible reports of people being paid in the last 2 weeks on link I posted. They did make it to football season, and that was the big question.

if you don't have an agenda, why do you continue to lie and mislead in order to make these thieves look good?

- they still do bank wires LIE
- nobody has been waiting more than 2-3 months LIE
- nobody has recently been offered bonus to cancel a withdrawal LIE
- everything should be fine LIE
- topbet has good intentions LIE

if even one person makes a deposit of even $1 based on some of your statements, you should be ashamed

[thomorino]

if you don't have an agenda, why do you continue to lie and mislead in order to make these thieves look good?

- they still do bank wires LIE
- nobody has been waiting more than 2-3 months LIE
- nobody has recently been offered bonus to cancel a withdrawal LIE
- everything should be fine LIE
- topbet has good intentions LIE

if even one person makes a deposit of even $1 based on some of your statements, you should be ashamed

Lol, hey little buddy, you started your little post by saying I'm a liar, and your first comment is a lie. Topbet DOES DO BANK WIRES AND THE LINK IS RIGHT HERE - Im owed one right now. Anyways, I've been very clear, topbet in not in good shape, I have not deposited their in 3 years and the fact I said they have a 60-65% chance of making shows I don't think they are a place anyone should deposit at. Suggesting that saying a book has 40% chance of going bust is saying everything should be fine is just stupid. I do think topbet wants to pay, they are not running and hiding, and have talked to SBR and OSGA, you have no clue what topbet and their management's intentions are.

https://topbet.eu/cashier/withdraw/swiftcheck

I also think very few people are waiting 5 months or more. Read before you respond, you seem like a really emotional person who doesn't read well or use facts.

[maespinoza1990]

got my second check today 3 more payouts left to go

[R40]

got my second check today 3 more payouts left to go

Looks like your first check was from February. When was the second requested?

[thomorino]

Looks like your first check was from February. When was the second requested?

I absolutely believe that Topbet is not a scam book and that they want to stay in business. There customer service outreach has been very strong. Whether or not they stay in business we will see, but obviously the next month will be huge. I think we will look back at this year down the road as probably the worst year for sportsbooks in decades, and see that the books that were slow paying during this period probably aren't poorly run, they just didn't have enough capital.

[milwaukee mike]

I absolutely believe that Topbet is not a scam book and that they want to stay in business. There customer service outreach has been very strong. Whether or not they stay in business we will see, but obviously the next month will be huge. I think we will look back at this year down the road as probably the worst year for sportsbooks in decades, and see that the books that were slow paying during this period probably aren't poorly run, they just didn't have enough capital.

after talking with osga today, they seem to share your opinion that topbet has a chance to fight through

i still respectfully disagree, but wish you and the other players well

my final comments would be...

1) if the year was so horrible, then how come there aren't a slew of other sportsbooks slow paying?
2) if they were under water before, then what shape are they in giving additional bonuses with no deposits? let's say they have $0 and owe $200k... now they give another 30k in bonuses for cancelled withdrawals (these numbers are totally made up of course)

if they couldn't pay out when they weren't blacklisted, how are they going to pay out even MORE money when there are presumably a lot fewer people willing to deposit? and if they ARE going to pay out, then why the heck are they giving out free plays for cancelling withdrawals?

[thomorino]

after talking with osga today, they seem to share your opinion that topbet has a chance to fight through

i still respectfully disagree, but wish you and the other players well

my final comments would be...

1) if the year was so horrible, then how come there aren't a slew of other sportsbooks slow paying?
2) if they were under water before, then what shape are they in giving additional bonuses with no deposits? let's say they have $0 and owe $200k... now they give another 30k in bonuses for cancelled withdrawals (these numbers are totally made up of course)

if they couldn't pay out when they weren't blacklisted, how are they going to pay out even MORE money when there are presumably a lot fewer people willing to deposit? and if they ARE going to pay out, then why the heck are they giving out free plays for cancelling withdrawals?

1) There are many books like betislands -a B rated book - and some of the VIP books that went under this year, obvously topbet was not as well capitalized as many other books, again, topbet has been a slow paying book at many times over the last several years, so we know they've had less capital than other book for some time.
2) I don't think many people took those bonuses who were owed money but obviously very few sharp players have played at this book recently since professional bettors have been aware that this book has been slow paying for some time.
3) There are many books that are blacklisted like Oddsmaker that have been in business for 5 years or more, the vast majority of bettors are recreational bettors who don't come to sites like this and topbet has built a strong customer based in North America. The key for topbet is winning, if the public loses they should, although we don't know for sure, they should be fine. This year has probably been the worst year for books in 30 years.

[R40]

I absolutely believe that Topbet is not a scam book and that they want to stay in business. There customer service outreach has been very strong. Whether or not they stay in business we will see, but obviously the next month will be huge. I think we will look back at this year down the road as probably the worst year for sportsbooks in decades, and see that the books that were slow paying during this period probably aren't poorly run, they just didn't have enough capital.

Sure they want to stay in business. It is not remotely close to the worst year for sportsbooks. Two years ago, road favorites in football hit at 60% for the first half. From what I have seen, Las Vegas books have booked big profits. It is very unlikely that the offshores have had bad seasons and I have seen no reporting whatsoever that books have taken it bad.

Topbet is a 2008 book and they are bust for that reason.

[thomorino]

Yeah, your wrong. No Vegas books was profitable this year to the best of my knowledge and April was their worst month on record in the NBA. Favorites and overs killed it in the NBA playoffs and NFL, and obviously books catering to recreational bettors got hit the hardest. The Patriots were 13-3 ATS and we all saw what happened in the super bowl.

[R40]

Yeah, your wrong. No Vegas books was profitable this year to the best of my knowledge and April was their worst month on record in the NBA. Favorites and overs killed it in the NBA playoffs and NFL, and obviously books catering to recreational bettors got hit the hardest. The Patriots were 13-3 ATS and we all saw what happened in the super bowl.

What do you know about the profitability of Vegas books? Zero. You write some of the dumbest stuff I've seen. But I hope Topbet does pay off. Would be a big payoff for me.

[thomorino]

What do you know about the profitability of Vegas books? Zero. You write some of the dumbest stuff I've seen. But I hope Topbet does pay off. Would be a big payoff for me.

Lol, I use common sense and listen to Matt Holt, Jimmy Vaccaro, and others who RUN these books. Your a fool if you think the Vegas books made any money this year since January after the NBA and NFL playoffs. Do you not realize the public was betting the Patriots, Warriors, Cavs, and the over in nearly every game including in parlays and futures markets.