is it ok when bookie wants your password?

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  • 316316
    SBR Sharp
    • 10-31-08
    • 395

    #36
    no they shoudn't ask for. we're talking about the accoount and you hvae all your money in there. getting password also means that they can manipulate your account.
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    • Slainte
      SBR MVP
      • 12-13-09
      • 2442

      #37
      What about sending visible passwords to your emails? I find this unacceptable.
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      • TheAccountant
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-03-09
        • 658

        #38
        Obviously passwords are for verifying who you are - I also find it extremely strange that they verify this by having you type it into an open chat window. You cannot use Live Chat in a public place because of this - it would be much safer to have you "log in" and hide the password on the screen. $3 an hour clerks should not have access to all this information - your identity can be verified by a computer without them knowing this.
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        • Z_Wipf
          SBR MVP
          • 01-15-10
          • 1131

          #39
          Originally posted by jboy4
          Every sportsbook I have ever used asks for username and password. Why wouldnt you give to them? I mean obvously they already know it. There asking to make sure it is really you. Am I missing something here?
          exactly
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          • ararat2010
            SBR Sharp
            • 12-16-09
            • 428

            #40
            I'm also giving bookies my password via phone if requested, of course its no more secure, coz maybe someone is listening you, but what can we do? only accept that
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            • OMGRandyJackson
              SBR MVP
              • 02-07-10
              • 1680

              #41
              They can easily implement a program where the clerk says please use your telephone and enter your 6-10 digit password (or however long). And you do it. You are now verified and no one knows your password but yourself and the system.

              I am sorry to be frank, but if you believe that in this digital age, it is safe for anyone to have your password to an account that has personal information including possibly credit card numbers and access to your money is an idiot. Period. Good for you trusting everyone and the intergrity that scotty has but unfortunately he is just a name on the internet and who the **** tells the truth on forums anyways? He cannot speak for every single employee period. It is just not possible.

              You tell us to trust you in that every single person that works with you carries the same integrity. What happens if that person goes through some sort of mid life crisis where they desperately need 20k, what is stopping them from trying to steal money from accounts he has access to?

              Get real, the world is not all safe and lovely. Passwords to any personal information should only be known by you.
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              • jboy4
                Restricted User
                • 02-18-10
                • 1950

                #42
                Let me get this straight. You will trust the sportsbook with thousands of dollars, but not a password that they have given to you to play with them with your thousands of dollars in there sportsbook. Sorry guys, makes no sense.
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                • jboy4
                  Restricted User
                  • 02-18-10
                  • 1950

                  #43
                  I really dont think there is a sportsbook out there that does not ask for your password when you want to place a bet over the phone or ask for a withdrawal. Just to name a few books that I have been with, Bodog, BetJamaica, Carib, Sportsoffshore, all ask for your password to place a bet over the phone or make a withdrawal from your account. To be honest, I would actually be worried if they didnt. This to protect your account from being accessed from someone other than yourself.
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                  • mike23
                    Restricted User
                    • 02-20-10
                    • 184

                    #44
                    that's their policy, unless Bookmaker tells you not to give it to their customer service
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                    • Hareeba!
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                      • 07-01-06
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by jboy4
                      I really dont think there is a sportsbook out there that does not ask for your password when you want to place a bet over the phone or ask for a withdrawal. Just to name a few books that I have been with, Bodog, BetJamaica, Carib, Sportsoffshore, all ask for your password to place a bet over the phone or make a withdrawal from your account. To be honest, I would actually be worried if they didnt. This to protect your account from being accessed from someone other than yourself.
                      Betfair never does
                      There are means other than requiring your online password to identify clients

                      I'll bet your bank doesn't ask you for it
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                      • Cheese1976
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 09-17-09
                        • 667

                        #46
                        This thread should be nominated for most foolish...

                        It's a freakin' password!! A password to an account that they already have access to - if someone in their business wanted to breach your account in some way, they could do it without needing you to recite your password
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                        • Hareeba!
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                          • 07-01-06
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by Cheese1976
                          This thread should be nominated for most foolish...

                          It's a freakin' password!! A password to an account that they already have access to - if someone in their business wanted to breach your account in some way, they could do it without needing you to recite your password
                          not in a properly secure environment
                          only the IT system should know the online password
                          as with banks, nobody is able to access it
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                          • mtneer1212
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-22-08
                            • 4993

                            #48
                            Do you give the DMV your license number? Your bank get your SS# and PIN? Of course you do.... they issue the numbers. Same case here....... geez.
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                            • Hareeba!
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                              • 07-01-06
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by mtneer1212
                              Do you give the DMV your license number? Your bank get your SS# and PIN? Of course you do.... they issue the numbers. Same case here....... geez.
                              totally different

                              users create their own passwords and they should forever remain known only to the user and the system
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                              • Cheese1976
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 09-17-09
                                • 667

                                #50
                                Unfortunately the operators are "the system" besides, I've never once heard of this being a problem...the paranoia here is amazing!
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                                • Hareeba!
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                                  • 07-01-06
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Cheese1976
                                  Unfortunately the operators are "the system" besides, I've never once heard of this being a problem...the paranoia here is amazing!
                                  no
                                  the operators are humans
                                  the system ain't

                                  Why do you suppose banks, Moneybookers, Neteller, Betfair etc adopt this security measure?
                                  I have more money in bookie accounts than the bank
                                  I don't think it's paranoia at all to expect the very best in security
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                                  • OMGRandyJackson
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-07-10
                                    • 1680

                                    #52
                                    I understand that this is the way it is, but that does not make it safe or good practice. Anyone to say that this is a safe method obviously knows nothing about computer security.
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                                    • scottcarter
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 03-01-10
                                      • 38

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Cheese1976
                                      Unfortunately the operators are "the system" besides, I've never once heard of this being a problem...the paranoia here is amazing!
                                      I agree

                                      this is much do do about nothing

                                      I have never heard of anyone's password being stolen and used by an employee making $3 hr or one making 100K a year.
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                                      • OMGRandyJackson
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-07-10
                                        • 1680

                                        #54
                                        Never say never
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                                        • jboy4
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 02-18-10
                                          • 1950

                                          #55
                                          If you all are that worried about it, you shouldnt play with offshore books. I promise you, all offshore books know your password. Its no big deal.
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                                          • Waiting4Godot
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 10-30-09
                                            • 226

                                            #56
                                            What Bookmaker and others should have... is two things:

                                            1) A true password that, when used, let's you make bets or deposits.. or change contact information
                                            2) A secondary password that let's you place a bet -- and only to place a bet

                                            Of course, in either case... the agent taking your call or do whatever will need access to both to verify, so it doesn't really matter. I suppose it should be enough to verify to bits of information about yourself like date of birth and some other random security question and not give any password.
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                                            • Hareeba!
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                                              • 07-01-06
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Waiting4Godot

                                              Of course, in either case... the agent taking your call or do whatever will need access to both to verify, so it doesn't really matter.
                                              not true at the best bookie or bank sites
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                                              • Hareeba!
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                                                • 07-01-06
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by scottcarter
                                                I have never heard of anyone's password being stolen and used by an employee making $3 hr or one making 100K a year.
                                                and right up until 10 September 2001 you'd probably not heard of terrorists taking command of passenger jets and flying them into buildings?

                                                close the stable door before the horse bolts
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                                                • 316316
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 10-31-08
                                                  • 395

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Waiting4Godot
                                                  What Bookmaker and others should have... is two things:

                                                  1) A true password that, when used, let's you make bets or deposits.. or change contact information
                                                  2) A secondary password that let's you place a bet -- and only to place a bet

                                                  Of course, in either case... the agent taking your call or do whatever will need access to both to verify, so it doesn't really matter. I suppose it should be enough to verify to bits of information about yourself like date of birth and some other random security question and not give any password.
                                                  i titally agree on this. personal information such as your date of birth and phone number is enough to verify that you are the account owner. They can also ask for your security question and answer. giving out your password is not good.they can always manipulate your account if you do so.
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