Jazz and ABCislands downgraded from B+ to B

**pico** · 08-17-07, 04:06 PM

thanks. i remmeber some mod recommend these two books to me a while back...forgot which one. now i am staying away from them for sure.

**bigboydan** · 08-17-07, 04:08 PM

It was me that was saying there a good book, and even though they were downgraded and all. I still will be more than happy to play there.

**durito** · 08-17-07, 04:18 PM

That seems to me to be a very quick rating move?

How many different books have listed funding methods that turned out not to be available recently? Most of them.

I though SBR was giving most books a little leeway with the processing issues.

Is there anything else behind this move. I'm about to deposit with Jazz.

**Lucas** · 08-17-07, 04:32 PM

Thanks SBR

I think this is exactly the push that is needed. I hope we will see them B+ or higher soon.

Btw. here was discussion if they allow multiple accouts at DPT. They are not allowed. So if omebody has registered at jazz or ABC then he/she can never get looselines discount prices. Weird too. My suggestion is to go straight to looselines and take reduced vig instead of bonus. It must pay off soon.

**durito** · 08-17-07, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Lucas

Thanks SBR

I think this is exactly the push that is needed. I hope we will see them B+ or higher soon.

Btw. here was discussion if they allow multiple accouts at DPT. They are not allowed. So if omebody has registered at jazz or ABC then he/she can never get looselines discount prices. Weird too. My suggestion is to go straight to looselines and take reduced vig instead of bonus. It must pay off soon.

really? i thought for sure you could have an account at Jazz and Looselines. How come they offer transfers between the two?

**Lucas** · 08-17-07, 04:46 PM

maybe transfers between different people, i also do not know what is in their heads... apparently many sentences from their website are not updated for months

or they just do not allow multiple accounts to winners

**Bill Dozer** · 08-17-07, 05:31 PM

This has been going on for a few weeks. Last week they said they were ending their relationship with Neteller and weren't able to send by any method but check. Players who deposited recently either spent extra money to be paid or have to wait for Neteller and B2B to be funded.

It sounds like they are getting back on track before football. They plan to be able to do b2b transfers and Neteller again next week. If not, they can remove them from the website on week 3. They are also about to start doing Omega transfers. Hopefully we can bump them back up shortly but having players coming in via Neteller knowing they may not be able to withdraw as advertised isnt B+ material.

**Lucas** · 08-17-07, 05:39 PM

yes exactly
plus Moneybookers also vanished from their website and at signup players were told to get free MB payouts /NT are 15 USD each, 2500 max/... small players are also not happy with this
they need little more planning

**Bill Dozer** · 08-17-07, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by bigboydan

It was me that was saying there a good book, and even though they were downgraded and all. I still will be more than happy to play there.

Yes, a lot of players consider them a must because they actually hang their own numbers, especially on the dimelines.

**durito** · 08-17-07, 05:40 PM

Thanks Bill.

What's the deal with Omega? I was looking at their website yesterday. Doesn't look terribly professional?

**bigloser** · 08-17-07, 06:18 PM

This is a joke !

When is the Bodog downgrade coming?

**Bill Dozer** · 08-17-07, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by durito

Thanks Bill.

What's the deal with Omega? I was looking at their website yesterday. Doesn't look terribly professional?

I don't think Jazz has actually sent one yet.

I don't know much about them and either do the books. I hear they are former sportsbook people. I tried to call a few times and it tells me I am first in line in the que but I either get hung up on or it just rings continuously.

You obviously have to be careful keeping money in the middle men. Even Neteller, when they first started were just a bunch of people in a house in CR. That said, I wouldn't have much of a problem as a user to pass through to my book.

These days if you have good banking contacts your site can look like something done in MS Paint and you will get business. (Where the hell is the withdrawal info on this site?)

My guess is Omega uses a network of people from many banks around the world (including the US), ** and ** offices and probably a variety of ACH POSs. They are doing what the books have to do in getting a million little processors and agent offices lined up trying to keep them in rotation. It is probably easier to match volume up this way and less volatility in processing time.

**Zeroed** · 08-17-07, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

Yes, a lot of players consider them a must because they actually hang their own numbers, especially on the dimelines.

Exactly, they are one of the few books that do not copy their lines from the big 3.
And definetaly B+ (or even better) for me, if that payout problem is solved.

I didn´t write SBR personally, but i was one of the posters here that complained about Jazz not paying out via Neteller..and it´s good to see that SBR takes such things serious.

Love this site, keep up the good work

**SBR_John** · 08-17-07, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by bigloser

This is a joke !

When is the Bodog downgrade coming?

Bodog was downgraded. They are on track now. Of course its the slow season so they should be. We will wait on an upgrade for Bodog until we see how they handle payouts when the peak season kicks in.

**Omega Mike** · 08-19-07, 01:48 PM

Omega and Jazz Sports

Hello,

Just a quick note about Omega and Jazzsports. Omega is an option at the Jazzsports group. If anyone has any difficulty using Omega or experiences any problems, please contact me directly at mike.james@omegainternetsolutions.com and I will do whatever is needed to assist you. Omega offers 24/7 support by telephone/live chat/ and email. Omega offers a 5% bonus on any first time funding above $1000. We have tried to keep the site as simple and as user friendly as possible. Any comments or suggestions are always welcome. Thanks.

**RiverRaid** · 08-19-07, 04:22 PM

I used Omega the other day and i had no problems. Like Bill Dozer said i tryed calling the number and could not get through, just kept saying i was first and then it would ring and no one would answer. So i just used live chat, the guy gave me the quick cash info, went to the bank and made a deposit, came home and used live chat again to tell the guy i made a deposit. The money was in my account in 5-10 minutes. Sent it to 5dimes with no problem and no fees. I will definitely use them again. Hopefully they will add more good sportsbooks in the future.

By the way, been reading this forum for awhile and decided to join for football season. Good luck to everyone this year.

**bigboydan** · 08-19-07, 05:14 PM

Welcome to the SBR forum RiverRaid

Thanks for reporting your feedback on Omega.... Tis appreciated

**jjgold** · 08-19-07, 05:44 PM

Pinnacle should jot even be rated anymore, its a non factor book now, American money is gone so the book is gone.

I want it off this site immediately

**Visitors** · 08-19-07, 07:15 PM

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**Omega Mike** · 08-20-07, 08:18 AM

Thanks RiverRaid

RiverRaid,

Thanks for using the Omega service. We have had a few phone issues but I believe those have been sorted out now. Good luck this season.

**pico** · 08-20-07, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Pinnacle should jot even be rated anymore, its a non factor book now, American money is gone so the book is gone.

I want it off this site immediately

america is not the world.

**jjgold** · 08-20-07, 10:25 AM

Harsh Downgrade

Unwarranted

Jazz should be upgraded back to a B+

**Wassymac** · 08-24-07, 12:00 AM

Using Omega at Jazz was a breeze. I also wanted to mention that Jazz CS let me know they are offering transfers to Cris/Bookmaker again with Pinnacle soon to follow.

**Bill Dozer** · 08-24-07, 12:06 AM

Thanks Wassy. A player with an 80k balance came back to his account to see that the options were very limited. I understand he is about to get some 5 figure wires.

**Omega Mike** · 08-24-07, 09:10 AM

Omega and Jazz

Wassymac,

Glad to hear things went smooth for you with Omega.

**Zeroed** · 08-26-07, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

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It sounds like they are getting back on track before football. They plan to be able to do b2b transfers and Neteller again next week. If not, they can remove them from the website on week 3.

Any news on this pls, regarding Jazz Neteller payouts?

**Bill Dozer** · 08-28-07, 01:07 AM

Neteller is currently funded. Pinnacle should be an option again soon.

**Zeroed** · 08-28-07, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

Neteller is currently funded. Pinnacle should be an option again soon.

No it isn´t just tried it

Request for $2,500.00 from Jazz Sports account declined.

Jazz Sports will not be able process your request at this time.

**Bill Dozer** · 08-28-07, 09:39 AM

Sorry to hear that Zeroed...that was fast. My advice is to call for Harvey and ask when the next transfer will be sent to the merchant account.

**Zeroed** · 08-28-07, 01:05 PM

Just talked to CS, and he told me nothing changed with the Neteller situation...funds are only available when players deposit.
What a joke, and looks like they also lied to you.

**wpet99** · 08-28-07, 03:07 PM

Apparently Neteller took ages to return money to ABC after the end of the last football season so Neteller is only funded by deposits now and the occasional wire

**UncleChris** · 08-28-07, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by wpet99

Apparently Neteller took ages to return money to ABC after the end of the last football season so Neteller is only funded by deposits now and the occasional wire

Netellers buisness is send and recieve instantly and they have a huge liquidity!

I ll hope you do not really believe or cover the bullshit you ve written.

**durito** · 08-28-07, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by UncleChris

Netellers buisness is send and recieve instantly and they have a huge liquidity!

except for the $200 million of american's money they took 7 months to return.

**Zeroed** · 08-28-07, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by durito

except for the $200 million of american's money they took 7 months to return.

Lets not turn this into another Neteller vs. the U.S. thread, it was business as usual with Neteller for the rest of the world all the time. Snd there is no reason why Jazz should be afraid of having money in Neteller again.