Carib Sports "Line Manipulation" - Threat of Theft

**UV82** · 02-15-10, 04:17 PM

Justin, can you please update us as to what Caribs are saying about that Void bet?

I cannot wait to hear their explanation.

**Thremp** · 02-15-10, 06:40 PM

Obv I filed a complaint. The person handling it asked "if I had evidence". They were mildly indifferent to the fact that they stole mai monies with phantom withdrawal fees. Instead they were like "Oh NOES!!! Do you have proof?" lol wtf obv

**relaaxx** · 02-15-10, 07:45 PM

used this book before - would not use it again

**BigdaddyQH** · 02-15-10, 08:04 PM

Why don't you people simply pull your funds out of books that you do not like. Come on people. This is a no brainer. If books have rules that you do not like, leave. There are only a million other books out there that will gladly take your money.

**Doug** · 02-15-10, 11:33 PM

another worthless book

there aren't 10 books worth having accounts at, more like 3

**THEGREAT30** · 02-15-10, 11:50 PM

I really don't think they should let people bet on both sides to avoid this mess, just state it in your rules no betting on both sides, unless significant line movement, then define significant line movement. For the record I have done this before, betting on both sides, only because I accidentally made the wrong wager, so i jumped to the other side to even things out and start over, IMO, if you wanna bet on both sides just used multiple books, good day.

**coldhardfacts** · 02-15-10, 11:50 PM

Another example of a supposed "bookmaker" that ought to be a shoemaker.

**crinkle** · 02-16-10, 12:36 AM

you clearly need to know the animal you're dealing with. Betting on both sides of the game at the same book is rarely a good idea. There are hundreds of books out there and it's simply foolish to take on that risk at just about any book unless you know for sure it's allowed.

Carib may have the worse website of all the sportsbooks I've ever visited. From time to time I enjoy playing there but I'm certainly not a fan of all the bad press that's in this thread.

GL

**Thremp** · 02-16-10, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

Why don't you people simply pull your funds out of books that you do not like. Come on people. This is a no brainer. If books have rules that you do not like, leave. There are only a million other books out there that will gladly take your money.

I think I was quite clear they are stealing my money in the process of getting it out.

**Thremp** · 02-16-10, 04:17 PM

Okay folks. I'm on tilt. My SBR assigned noob is incompetent.

Is SBR seriously going downhill as well? Their complaint feature gets me some guy who doesn't even read my fking complaint?

**durito** · 02-16-10, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Thremp

Okay folks. I'm on tilt. My SBR assigned noob is incompetent.

Is SBR seriously going downhill as well? Their complaint feature gets me some guy who doesn't even read my fking complaint?

The General -500
Crazylou +300

Or if Reload does complaints make him -25,000

**UV82** · 02-16-10, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by Thremp

Okay folks. I'm on tilt. My SBR assigned noob is incompetent.

Is SBR seriously going downhill as well? Their complaint feature gets me some guy who doesn't even read my fking complaint?

You are lucky, I haven't been asigned anyone yet for my case after a week.

**Thremp** · 02-17-10, 02:37 PM

Welp, SBR is doing a great job. Carib has now blocked my memo feature and limited me to cashing out only via ***********, which I can't use since I'm not in the US (Ergo why I used NT/MB). So I guess they're trying to say they are stealing my money?

Good job SBR. You took a $70.98 theft and increased it by around 30x.

**Thremp** · 02-17-10, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by UV82

You are lucky, I haven't been asigned anyone yet for my case after a week.

Yeah. Good thing I decided to take out most of my balance. I would have loved to have SBR manage to get another 10 dimes essentially stolen from me.

**crinkle** · 02-17-10, 04:20 PM

Thremp,

How much did they charge you (as a percentage) to withdraw funds?

**hornsrgrt** · 02-17-10, 04:29 PM

caribsports has always been good....
I bet both sides all the time with much higher amounts and have never had a problem...sometimes I do this if I make a mistake...they have also cancelled wagers for me...
I have been a customer for since at least 2003 and think they are great...

**durito** · 02-17-10, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by hornsrgrt

caribsports has always been good....
I bet both sides all the time with much higher amounts and have never had a problem...sometimes I do this if I make a mistake...they have also cancelled wagers for me...
I have been a customer for since at least 2003 and think they are great...

How much have you lost there during this time.

**Thremp** · 02-17-10, 05:48 PM

crinkle,

I'm intentionally ignoring you until I get more information from Carib. It seems they're taking a Stalin-like policy with me. However, I will make sure to spread defamation and lies, and start a ********** ring if they noob me.

**nitzantal** · 02-24-10, 09:32 AM

SBR are not responding to this matter at all... whats going on Justin...

**BigdaddyQH** · 02-24-10, 09:59 AM

Don't you guys get it? No one has figured this out yet? It is an industry wide practice to stall you as long as possible because there is not a damn thing you people can do about it other than to call or post complaints. What are you going to do? Fly there? Go through this section and read how many other people are getting the big stall by other books. Their thinking is easy. First, as long as they stall, they can use your money any way they see fit. Next, they can always hope that you forget about your complaint. Next, they can, and often do settle for less that they owe you, by refunding monies on a wager that they lost and calling it "no action". This is a result of you waiting so long for a conclusion to the matter that you are willing to call it even just to get out of the book. Believe me, no one in here has enough money to make a major dent in any book if they pull out of it.

This is part of the gamble you take giving any offshore book your money. They have it. Believe me they are making money on it. Maybe they floated it on the free market at good interest rates. Maybe they took a hit. The bottom line is that these problems normally occur when the book needs to buy time to pay off. These books have so many B.S. rules that they are laughable. If a book does not allow you to middle a game, RUN, do not walk, away from that book. They are taking a major profit making tool away from you. Use your heads people. This is how the offshore books can afford to sucker you in with bonuses. They make it up other ways.

**Trucker George** · 02-24-10, 10:08 AM

Informative thread and hope there is a positive resolution in this case.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 02-24-10, 11:36 AM

You guys complaining about SBR should stop paying your subscriptions here. Oh wait, there aren't any.

Maybe take it to another complaints service. Oh wait, there really aren't any.

Take it to the regulators. Oh wait, there really aren't any.

Anyway, obvious scumbag shitbook. Avoid.

**Thremp** · 02-24-10, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by nitzantal

SBR are not responding to this matter at all... whats going on Justin...

This isn't Justin's dispute. While I toss mad haterade (with good reason) on Justin, he his competent at handling disputes. The person handling mine basically refused to read me complaint and then refused to help me repeatedly until I think I badgered him into getting my money currently stolen (IE I have no withdrawal methods. Zero. None. Zilch. They want me to move halfway around the planet to withdrawal.) And they refuse to communicate with me in writing since obv that makes them somewhat responsible.

ETA: I just want someone who will give a sincere effort at 1) reading my complaint 2) considering it and inquiring. Not some ****stick who just spouts off chickenshit to me in response and basically tells me to gfy.

**nitzantal** · 02-24-10, 01:47 PM

I agree Justin is great.

I havent received any response whatsoever from anyone at SBR to my complaint from Feb 8... I hope that they asign someone to my case... my case is totally ignored

**nitzantal** · 02-24-10, 06:13 PM

I got an email from a colleague who is also on the forum who claims that SBR will be reluctant to pursue a complaint if it may affect their financial relationship with the client.

I counter argued that I doubt if this could be the case with Caribs.

Any ideas ... the fact of the matter is that they haven’t responded to this matter in weeks... but still I personally have a much better history of experience with SBR so I m not sure how to read this.

**Scooter** · 02-25-10, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by durito

The General -500
Crazylou +300

Or if Reload does complaints make him -25,000

Give me the max on Crazylou, and then I'll repop it about a dozen times, if Crazylou is the mod who signs emails as "Lou".

The Urban Dictionary defines "noob": "Someone that completely and utterly sucks at what they are doing. This can range from cooking food, to playing Halo or other games.
The word noob should NOT be used with the word "newb" or "newbie." These words have completely different definitions and meanings to them, which will be explained next."

Thremp - "Okay folks. I'm on tilt. My SBR assigned noob is incompetent.
Is SBR seriously going downhill as well? Their complaint feature gets me some guy who doesn't even read my fking complaint?"

I sent Bill Dozer an email about 2 weeks ago, and got a response from "Lou".

I promptly emailed Lou with a request which would have been taken care of as a courtesy from any other website I've ever experienced, and would've taken Lou 5 minutes (if he's a slow typist).

Instead I got an email back from Lou which made it clear that he'd read only one sentence of my email, and hadn't taken the time to read the other 4 or 5 sentences.

I emailed him 2 more times, 1st repeating what I'd stated in the 1st email and my simple request, the 2nd one a few days later asking him to let me know if there's any problem.

That was 2 weeks ago. Just found out that all evidence indicates that he never followed thru, and never let me know that he wouldn't be following thru.
I had made it clear to him that the situation was very important to me.

Perhaps Bill Dozer should have someone else answer his emails.

**tofuman** · 02-25-10, 12:50 AM

so many bookies are just a scam, very few legit ones left

**jboy4** · 02-25-10, 02:16 AM

Hornsrgt, you said they cancelled a bet for you. I was playing with Carib after Sports Off Shore shut down and they told me they could not change a bet. I played UNLV and wanted to play Kansas State when Kansas State thumped them by 20 at UNLV. They told me they could not cancel or change any bet at anytime. What a joke, especially since I lost 40K with SOS supposedly there sister book and I got treated like shit there. What was the real reason Sports Off Shore went packing. Not updated on SBR. Just wandering why a book that I lost 40k to, would send me to some garbage book. Stay away from Carib.

**Thremp** · 02-25-10, 11:01 AM

Scooter,

If I was the old BetOnline, I'd accuse you of having insider information (probably on NFL games) and then ask you to leave for such sharp play.

**UV82** · 02-25-10, 10:16 PM

why is SBR ignoring this one all of a sudden... not a word for weeks?

**Thremp** · 02-27-10, 11:11 AM

I got an update back. My assigned mediator still doesn't understand my dispute. Carib denies it. And now they've cut me to zero limits so I can't even lose the money left. To summarize what has happened in response to requesting an SBR look into this:

1) No memo service. So I can't get information regarding my account.
2) No withdrawal methods. Zero. Not a single ****ing one. I have to move across the planet to use the one they "allow".
3) Limits cut to 0 now.

So basically SBR has managed to get my money stolen. Thanks! Good job. Thank god I actually withdrew most before some ****ing moron got a hold of this and managed to lose 80% of the rest. Christ.

**FishFace5** · 02-27-10, 11:18 AM

I dont get it thremp?? SBR has actually made it worse. Why cant they understand the complaint? what does SBR say, it has to be more than we dont understand ur complaint.
Hope it works out for you. Seems that they should at least be able to get u whats in the acct and then call it quits after that.

**Thremp** · 02-27-10, 11:44 AM

Well I shouldn't say "SBR" in total, as there are competent people who work there. I just happen to have someone who is lazy and incompetent and arrogant handling my case.

Like if I asked the mediator to say what my complaint is in his own words. He'd be 100% unable to. That is the source of the problem.

**FishFace5** · 02-27-10, 12:01 PM

Big thremp why dont u try to PM somebody a lil more competent.
Say you submitted a complaint several weeks ago. No progress has been made. Can someone else please take a look at this situation. Thanx.

dont see how this 1 doesnt get straightened out.

**Thremp** · 02-27-10, 12:17 PM

I'm waiting to see if anything changes with this process first. Then I'll whine to someone else.