lol the people can hit on 20 if they want they maybe drunk or dont know how to play which I dont believe .I went in their and I am up over 50 bucks in 2 short days .Game of runs people and its thee closet thing to a legit online casino you will get .I love to play in their casino I cant say I feel cheated when I walk away because it was a live person doing the dealing not a software program doing this 20 20 21 21 21 21 18 19 21 21 21.
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Originally posted by skrtelfan
Absolutely not...People can play blackjack hands however they want to....but nobody who is playing for real money will hit on 20....Some may split 10's but definately not hit on 20. If there are 10 people playing at once, 9 of which are playing for real money, why should their results be affected by one goof who decides to play hands like a moron who is playing for "play money"? It just doesnt make sense that if someone notifies betphoenix of this type of thing happening, why they would basically say "tough shit, nothing we can do" rather than address the issueComment -
Ttaylor....its also possible that the moron playing for "play money" doesnt know that he is at the same table and playing the same hand as the real money players. If I were playing for "play money" and thought i was at a table by myself or with other "play money" players, then who knows...maybe i would hit 19 and 20 and double down on 5 just for the fun of it. Hell, its only play money. My whole issue was betphoenix's reaction at turning a blind eye and telling me that i am SOL.Originally posted by tltaylor89Comment -
i never noticed this playing live blackjack.
it has been a awhile since i played it did they change it?Comment -
I think it has always been like that. The dealer deals one hand to the player and everyone (both real money and play money players) use that hand. Therefore, if there are 10 people playing, (9 of which are playing for real money and one playing for play money) and the player gets dealt 20. All 9 who are playing for real money are obviously going to stay. But when the dealer gives the player an extra card, you know someone hit. I cant say i evenblame the play money player. If you are playing for play money, then why not goof around. The problem is that he/she is affecting the outcomes of the hands with other people's real money invested. Then when I called them to alert them of what was going on, they basically told me tough shit.Originally posted by BigDaddy
This thread was started 3 days ago and Richard says he has been looking into this. To be honest, this is an issue that should have been solved in 30 minutes...not 3 days (and counting)Comment -
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playing for fun now and do notice that i can mess up other players as i hit on hands i shouldn't and stayed on hands i should hit and the dealer dealt another card
that is messed up.
thanks for the thread pokerplayer22
hand 011djm
man i hit 15 against a dealer 3 and busted with a face card dealer had 13 and hit 8 for 21
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Isnt it brutal bigdaddy...This happened to me 6 times in one session. 5 of the 6 hands i would have won but lost beause of the dumb moves by the play money player. The other hand I lost but still would have lost. There was one hand in particular that i had hard 20, dealer showed 10. Moron "play money" player hit the 20 with a 7. Dealer flipped over 5 and hit with 6 (instead of the 7). Had $40 on the hand so hence it cost me $80. Like i said before, the worst part was betphoenix's reaction of "tough shit".Originally posted by BigDaddy
And hosestly, Ive been so loyal to this place (as you can see in other threads). They dropped the ball here thoughComment -
I know we are not going to tell you tough shit...that did not happen.
Either way, blocking this is a programming issue and the Singapore Dev office is closed for holidays at this point for sure being hours ahead of us. That being said, no progress will be made here until Monday.
Also, If the hands hit were to have helped you, would this thread be alive, and how can you tell who is playing for fun and who is playing for real? Did the guy who played etc really play for fun, and if so where did that info come from?
Are you just looking for a refund on those 6 hands? Close fun money play? What are you looking for me to do here?Comment -
live casino is cool bt i haven't play in that site, mostly play in asian siteComment -
Originally posted by betphoenix
Richard....after some goof hit on a 20 i called up and talked to someone named Mariana. I asked her how someone could play as dumb as that because i thought the dealer made an error, and that is when she told me that they were playing for play money. That is when she also basically told me "tough shit". It is absolutely ridiculous that you allow play money players to play on the same table as real money if the play money players can affect the hand. I didnt start this thread to get a refund of the hands because it only amounts to a whopping$180. But at this point and because of the way this was handled, yes, i think a refund is in order. But from what, ive seen and read in other threads, about some of the things going on there, I'll hope but i wont hold my breathComment -
BP live casino pure luck maybe,
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Originally posted by betphoenix
Richard...one other thing, I am not on here stating wnything that isnt true. You can read any of my previous posts about BP in previous threads....I have had nothing but great things to say about you guys. However, you guys really dropped the ball here and something needs to be done.Comment -
Well, i emailed Richard and I know this is going to come as a big surprise to everyone, but I got no reply.
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Player,
If you are asking for a refund that is totally ridiculous but so is having play money bettors sitting in on a cash table.
Richard,
Fix the game and kick those players off the table. I know it doesn't change the long term results but ask any blackjack player and they wouldn't want to put up with that.
Whilst blackjack players are mostly retarded you have to go and have a look in a real casino. Experienced players go crazy when this shit happens and go find a new table.
A live casino is a great idea and I am sure there will be a lot of demand but you have to service your PAYING customers or they will go elsewhere.Comment -
PP22,
With kids and not in office today. I will reply to your mail tomorrow morn.
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Getting a refund wasnt my point of this post. I was so irritated at BP's reaction when i told them they might want to do something about having play money players at real money tables. If Richard wants to give me a refund, great. if not, no biggie. Its a whopping $180. He and his casino dept need to be open to some useful advice instead of telling its so called "valued customers" to take a hike.Originally posted by Dr.GonzoComment -
Richard...havent heard anything all day today, and havent seen any reply emails.Originally posted by betphoenix
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PP let the man spend some time with his kids its the holidays.
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Richard was the one himself that said that he would get back to me yesterday morning. I didnt say that. He did. Still waiting.... I guess when he said yesterday morning he meant some time in the next week. My mistake....HmmmmOriginally posted by BigDaddyPP let the man spend some time with his kids its the holidays.Comment -
PP22,
I went through all mails yesterday, and I did not get one from you. Anything that resembled your issue here anyways. PM me please. I did look for it specifically.
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I sent the email late Friday night. I also just emailed you again about an hour ago.Originally posted by betphoenixComment -
Wagerchief is way better than BetPhoenix.Comment -
Originally posted by betphoenix
Richard,
I must admit, I was very upset when I had a "too large than I should have bet out there" and had 2 face cards for twenty against the dealer's upcard of 2, and some "AS I THOUGHT" knucklehead, hit his 20 and busted by drawing a 9. The dealer had a face card underneath for 12 and would of made 21, but instead busted with the next face card.
I should of started a thread on how upset I was.
In all seriousness, I would still rather play live blackjack with guys hitting their play money hands of 20, than to play the RNG software blackjack games. At least we can see the cards being shuffled, being put in, and coming out of the shoe.
Hope you and your family had a great holiday, Happy New Year Richard!
Jerseyshop101
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Like all good online casinos they gave you a taste....Originally posted by JerseyShop101Richard, I must admit, I was very upset when I had a "too large than I should have bet out there" and had 2 face cards for twenty against the dealer's upcard of 2, and some "AS I THOUGHT" knucklehead, hit his 20 and busted by drawing a 9. The dealer had a face card underneath for 12 and would of made 21, but instead busted with the next face card. I should of started a thread on how upset I was. In all seriousness, I would still rather play live blackjack with guys hitting their play money hands of 20, than to play the RNG software blackjack games. At least we can see the cards being shuffled, being put in, and coming out of the shoe. Hope you and your family had a great holiday, Happy New Year Richard! Jerseyshop101
My guess is they snatched that taste out your mouth in the time between.
BP's live casino allows for them to have an anonymous player change the hand (hit 20, stay on 15 etc) and kill the other players. It doesn't take much math or programming to do that.
5 dimes has a much better option, that I was kicked off of long ago. It was actual vegas bj, not this random everyone gets the same hand and one guy can turn your nuts in to nonsense crap.Comment -
Are you serious? People playing fake money can play with people using real money together? This doesn't sound right to me. May be I should join the table with fake money
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just don't play @ online casino... if you want to play card games, just go to actual casino and playComment -
wow...why would you even play there. thats a joke that they allow that. i've heard so many bad things about this book from tons of pplComment
