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  • tbill1
    SBR High Roller
    • 12-17-09
    • 124

    #1
    very unhappy with BetJamaica withdrawal procedure
    Hi,

    After 10 years with the same book, I switched to BetJamaica because I read of the quick withdrawals that people experienced. I have since learned that they now require an ID be faxed to them before they will give you your money. My only deposit was cash made via Western Union. Some had speculated that they only required ID if you deposited by credit card. This is not he case. I just had an email exchange with them where they told me they wanted an ID from me. With ID theft a real problem, I certainly don't want my driver's license floating around Jamaica! They refused to answer my question: If I was a fraud calling for money, how would I benefit (or even get my hands on the check) if they made it out to the name they had on file and sent it to the address they had on file. This is nuts!

    Tbill
  • michael777
    SBR MVP
    • 09-20-05
    • 1936

    #2
    geez,send it to them,it is not a big deal at all,after sending it,you will get paid
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    • Peeig
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 02-06-08
      • 567

      #3
      It's not a big deal, just send them the info.......big brother might be watching, but they don't give a ****
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      • tbill1
        SBR High Roller
        • 12-17-09
        • 124

        #4
        Will they accept something other than a driver's license? Like a voter registration card?


        Tbill
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        • Johnny 55
          Restricted User
          • 05-16-09
          • 1079

          #5
          If you are unhappy with this you will never get paid by any offshore book.
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          • Gooseamoose
            SBR Rookie
            • 12-21-09
            • 19

            #6
            Me too

            I am having the same dilemma . I don't like the fact that a copy of my drivers liscence, credit card, utility bill, bank phone #, home phone #, and billing address... is being kept in a filing cabinet that the feds would love to get their hands on .
            That information is a direct link to me, without question ! One id is one thing, but all of this information proves guilt without doubt !
            I too went with BJ for ease of withdrawal . I'm glad I started small,.... I'm leaving the money and switching books . Good day men
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            • trumpdown
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 01-21-09
              • 755

              #7
              I don't have an account there, but I heard many liked BJ because of their BetJamaica Transfer Card where you don't have the hassle of checks and can stay more on the DL if that is your thing. Now this eliminates your anonymity on various levels. At the same time it appears more and more books want ID. Who really knows if it's for FRAUD reasons or for BIG BRO reasons, perhaps both.
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              • Gooseamoose
                SBR Rookie
                • 12-21-09
                • 19

                #8
                I shouldn't be so hasty,...
                Anyways.........,
                Happy Holidays to all !
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                • cap10
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 09-15-07
                  • 494

                  #9
                  ive been whining about this id /utility bill requirement for months;; but sbr is scared to say one word against bjam ;; great book but this blows;; why should my drivers lic no. be floating around jamaica;; ive been online booking for over 10 yrs and never heard of such insanity;;
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                  • MBENZ
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-07-07
                    • 5238

                    #10
                    I have gotten numerous withdrawals,latest last Friday,and have never been asked for ID.Have seen a couple of these threads lately and find it strange.Are you guys calling to get a withdrawal or using chat?
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                    • swaindexter
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-27-07
                      • 1228

                      #11
                      Very interesting post
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                      • Johnny 55
                        Restricted User
                        • 05-16-09
                        • 1079

                        #12
                        The Feds really care about you. Lets now take a second and total up the amount of people in the history of the United States that have ever been arrested or spent one day in jail for placing a wager offshore. The answer is zero, now if you are booking bets, that is stupid and you will go to jail for that.
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                        • thespeculator
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-09-08
                          • 2999

                          #13
                          it will be fine , they are very very reputable company, they have bigger business to worry about then fooling with people' i.d
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                          • hhsilver
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-07-07
                            • 7375

                            #14
                            I funded them with booktobook. I was surprised when they wouldn't let me move $ out via book to book without id. But, it's was ok for me to XXXXXXXXXX out my driver's license number when I emailed them a photo of it.
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                            • BigdaddyQH
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-13-09
                              • 19530

                              #15
                              The fact of the matter is this. The off shore books could care less about identity theft. They are doing what they have been told to do by the U.S. Government. This way, if Uncle Sam wants your tail, he has it. It rarely happens, if you consider the number of off shore players, but it does. I know of a few people who were in trouble with the IRS, and had "failure to disclose all income" piled on to their charges. It is not like identity theft was born yesterday. This is what you will have to go through if you want to use off shore books. I really do not know of any that do not require some form of I.D. any more. I could be wrong because I do not use off shore books for the most part, but I think all books require I.D.
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                              • Glitch
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-08-09
                                • 11795

                                #16
                                pretty standard. but inconvenient i guess.
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                                • Gooseamoose
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 12-21-09
                                  • 19

                                  #17
                                  Thank you fellas for your input . Greatly appreciated
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                                  • tbill11
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-15-09
                                    • 1451

                                    #18
                                    Interesting choice of names. Can I ask if you're another Travis Bill? Or maybe another first name?
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                                    • Grandmaster B
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-05-09
                                      • 6035

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Johnny 55
                                      If you are unhappy with this you will never get paid by any offshore book.
                                      thats a flat out lie because I take withdraws from bookmaker without id for 10 years...I only use ** and **

                                      there is a reason they wont pay his money...its called slow pay tactics...delay the withdraw with whatever rule so he will bet it back

                                      oldest offshore scam ever
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                                      • rumple
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-19-07
                                        • 2499

                                        #20
                                        Tbill full of shit, they dont id for withdrawals.
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                                        • Seattle Slew
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-02-06
                                          • 7373

                                          #21
                                          You have a better shot at your ID/personal data being stolen in the U.S. Just look at all the data breaches at banks/credit card companies in the last few years. You can't worry about this stuff, it's just going to stress you out.
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                                          • jasont
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-24-08
                                            • 1227

                                            #22
                                            send the id...do it.
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                                            • frostno98
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-11-07
                                              • 9769

                                              #23
                                              Still strange why they would require you to send any other info, considering that the money has already been collected and no way you could possibly charge them back. But rules is the rules, so just send the ID. It take you less than a minute to fax the darn thing, and you'll have your money.

                                              I'm sure there's thousands of faxed ID's of all sorts over in the carribean's through the years, and I haven't heard of any identity theft since I've been at SBR. So identity theft which is your main concern, shouldn't be an issue here.
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                                              • MBENZ
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-07-07
                                                • 5238

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Grandmaster B
                                                thats a flat out lie because I take withdraws from bookmaker without id for 10 years...I only use ** and **

                                                there is a reason they wont pay his money...its called slow pay tactics...delay the withdraw with whatever rule so he will bet it back

                                                oldest offshore scam ever
                                                That's a crock of shit and anybody who has been with BetJam any amount of time knows it.Why the hell would you badmouth a book that actually pays and pays quick?
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                                                • Jonah
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-21-09
                                                  • 4042

                                                  #25
                                                  Not a big fan of Bet Jamaica in General.
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                                                  • sportscash
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 01-16-09
                                                    • 2894

                                                    #26
                                                    They have never payed me quick.I'll never use them again.And slack customer service also
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                                                    • CollegePro
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-23-09
                                                      • 4006

                                                      #27
                                                      when their payment service works correctly, they are lightning fast... I did had number of delayed payouts from betjam before. Whenever I called in to complain when there were delays, Scotty always told me I was the first person to have issue like this.... wtf?
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                                                      • Gooseamoose
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 12-21-09
                                                        • 19

                                                        #28
                                                        Sir, I am not lying about my situation . Credit card front and back, drivers liscence front and back, utility bill and a form that requests a lot of stuff . BUT, BUT, BUT,....they are now only requesting the form which is alright with me . It definitely seems to be a legit security form . MBENZ... I'm new on here , but you really shouldn't call someone a liar without knowing them .
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                                                        • MBENZ
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-07-07
                                                          • 5238

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Gooseamoose
                                                          Sir, I am not lying about my situation . Credit card front and back, drivers liscence front and back, utility bill and a form that requests a lot of stuff . BUT, BUT, BUT,....they are now only requesting the form which is alright with me . It definitely seems to be a legit security form . MBENZ... I'm new on here , but you really shouldn't call someone a liar without knowing them .
                                                          Who called you a liar,I simply said that Bud Bundy was full of shit suggesting that BJ was trying to delay a payment.You should never have a problem getting your dough from BetJam.
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                                                          • Gooseamoose
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 12-21-09
                                                            • 19

                                                            #30
                                                            Sorry MBENZ, I thought that was directed at those of us that were having problems . Happy New Year to ya !
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                                                            • Gooseamoose
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 12-21-09
                                                              • 19

                                                              #31
                                                              UPDATE: As far as my problems go, I have finally received payment via W/U after filling out a security form . That was it, not a whole list of items . I wonder if the remarks on the SBR forum had anything to do with it ??? This forum is cool , thanks everybody for their input !!................dw
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                                                              • robmpink
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-09-07
                                                                • 13205

                                                                #32
                                                                Bottom line it is VERY GAY that they ask for this when you load with ** or **. It is 100% GAY. Unless they are giving free money or bonuses away there is NO reason to ask someone to send in their id when they load via ** or **.

                                                                I wonder when someone new goes to deposit do they tell the customer "be sure you have a valid dl to send if you want a payout".
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                                                                • mozomboking
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 06-05-07
                                                                  • 476

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Never had a single problem with bj.
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                                                                  • teecee
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-18-09
                                                                    • 6298

                                                                    #34
                                                                    IMO, you should have to show the ID and other required info when you deposit, so it's already there if you withdraw. Why is it always so much easier to deposit than to withdraw?
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                                                                    • Chuck Sims
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-29-05
                                                                      • 3072

                                                                      #35
                                                                      The ID is to prevent fraud. When you give 30% cash bonuses, people are going to register 20 different accounts. Yes, there are weasels that will do that.

                                                                      BJ wants to see your ID so you do not abuse the bonus.

                                                                      It has nothing to do with Uncle Sam. That is the most ignorant post I've seen in some time here at SBR.
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