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  • Bill Dozer
    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
    • 07-12-05
    • 10894

    #1
    Best Arbitrage or Best Lines service ? thanks!
    -Player post accidently merged with response by moderator.-


    ======================================== =========
    Now that the best software ?
    Which do you like the most?
    The following Sports Arbitrage alert Service Providers:
    ------------------------------------------------------
    ArbAlarm
    ArbExpert
    ArbitragePro
    ArbHunters
    ArbSeek
    ArbWinner
    BetBrain
    BetRiskFree
    GotoBets
    Juice Trading
    Nickel Vacuum
    OddsAndBets
    OddsExchange
    SureBetPro
    Sports Punter
    Tip-Ex
    UCantLose
    WinRiskFree

    Thank you very much

    I would go with SureBetPro

    Welcome to the board Good. I think you might get some more answers if you change your title to Best Arbitrage or Best Lines service? BetBrain and then TipEx are the ones I hear mentioned most by Euro bettors.

    thank bill dozer help me !!
    My english very poor!
    Last edited by Bill Dozer; 05-21-07, 06:07 PM. Reason: to make note of original post author
  • good168
    SBR Rookie
    • 05-02-07
    • 5

    #2
    Best Arbitrage or Best Lines service ? thanks!

    ArbAlarm
    ArbExpert
    ArbitragePro
    ArbHunters
    ArbSeek
    ArbWinner
    BetBrain
    BetRiskFree
    GotoBets
    Juice Trading
    Nickel Vacuum
    OddsAndBets
    OddsExchange
    SureBetPro
    Sports Punter
    Tip-Ex
    UCantLose
    WinRiskFree

    Thank you very much !
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    • vanman
      SBR MVP
      • 02-08-07
      • 1163

      #3
      Betbrain is ok nothing special
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      • SquareShooter
        SBR High Roller
        • 04-16-06
        • 223

        #4
        The service that gains most props here probably gets some 100-200 more customers from forum lurkers. Once it happens that service will became the poorest one.

        Do you know how long does the average arb between TheGreek and Pinnacle on 2 way market last on 2007? Make a guess...
        Last edited by SquareShooter; 05-05-07, 01:59 PM.
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        • Stumpage
          SBR MVP
          • 09-21-05
          • 2906

          #5
          Originally posted by SquareShooter
          Do you know how long does the average arb between TheGreek and Pinnacle on 2 way market last on 2007? Make a guess...

          Depending on the sport of course, I'd nonetheless be quite surprised if it was more than the 30 second to a minute range.....
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          • SquareShooter
            SBR High Roller
            • 04-16-06
            • 223

            #6
            Originally posted by Stumpage
            Depending on the sport of course, I'd nonetheless be quite surprised if it was more than the 30 second to a minute range.....
            less than 5 seconds.
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            • pico
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 04-05-07
              • 27321

              #7
              Originally posted by SquareShooter
              less than 5 seconds.
              no point using the arb service then. unless you're sitting in front of the computer all day
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              • Stumpage
                SBR MVP
                • 09-21-05
                • 2906

                #8
                Originally posted by SquareShooter
                less than 5 seconds.
                Thought I might have been a bit on the high end...Doesn't surprise me.
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                • Arilou
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 07-16-06
                  • 475

                  #9
                  I guarentee they last more than five seconds. Not saying they last thirty, they don't, but it takes five seconds to realize the arb is there, and several more to input the bet. If you think they last five seconds, that's probably because you're using an arb service instead of watching dynamic lines... which means that you miss those critical first few seconds, and the ones that you DO see are the ones other people see too.
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                  • kiwi
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 08-11-05
                    • 674

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bill Dozer

                    Now that the best software ?
                    Write your own software so you are the only one who gets the arbs.
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                    • acw
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 08-29-05
                      • 576

                      #11
                      Originally posted by kiwi
                      Write your own software so you are the only one who gets the arbs.
                      How is your balance with the Greek on this one after stiffing?
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                      • kiwi
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 08-11-05
                        • 674

                        #12
                        Until I hear some news my balance there will be 0.
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                        • acw
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 08-29-05
                          • 576

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kiwi
                          Until I hear some news my balance there will be 0.
                          I wanted to know how much you made using his site. (I would say it cannot be much. If it still were a lot, you would not be too worried of his stiffs)

                          Anyhow smart guy that Spiro. Since every site should avoid scalpers big time, he just puts up some strange match with slightly out of line prices and catches guys like you all at once. Next thing he should do, is sell his "bad" client list to other bookies and they will all close your accounts with them. Obvioulsy it is not too difficult to open new accounts on someone else's name, so Spiro repeats this every 3 months and catches the next batch. Gives him a new distribution list to sell.

                          And kiwi (apart from being German, which is already not too good), Spiro remains A+ and you will be treated like an F poster. TRUE STORY. I am not kidding The Greek remains A+.
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                          • gambler2007
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 06-30-07
                            • 2

                            #14
                            www.gamblers-paradise.net is better

                            Originally posted by Arilou
                            I guarentee they last more than five seconds. Not saying they last thirty, they don't, but it takes five seconds to realize the arb is there, and several more to input the bet. If you think they last five seconds, that's probably because you're using an arb service instead of watching dynamic lines... which means that you miss those critical first few seconds, and the ones that you DO see are the ones other people see too.

                            Hi. I have used www.gamblers-paradise.net and several other for years and i must say that this site is much faster than the others.
                            Also their risk warning system together with the odds history is perfect for arbitraging.
                            I can see how many minute the surebet last and on many occations they last for several minutes. They just introduced a blog/network betting section so users can find betting partners if they have limited cash or country restriction. Try it
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388189

                              #15
                              all arb services are whore shit
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                              • kiwi
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-11-05
                                • 674

                                #16
                                Originally posted by gambler2007
                                Hi. I have used www.gamblers-paradise.net ... Try it
                                Maybe you just prefer them because they are danish as you are? Or are you acually working for them and therefore joined this forum? Be honest...
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                                • bigboydan
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 55420

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  all arb services are whore shit
                                  Why do you say that coach?
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                                  • wookiemaster
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 07-24-08
                                    • 6

                                    #18
                                    Pinn Vs Greek last more than 5 seconds, I guarantee that. Pinnacle are faster than anyone at changing their lines. I dont get too many Pinn v Greek, but I do get them. I use arbitragepro by the way and have done for over 2 years. Expensive but very good.
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                                    • moonbeam
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-02-07
                                      • 1496

                                      #19
                                      all arbitrage services are useless.

                                      If you don´t want to get limited within 2 days by 98% of all books never use arbitrage software!
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                                      • EBK
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 07-30-08
                                        • 40

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by moonbeam
                                        all arbitrage services are useless.

                                        If you don´t want to get limited within 2 days by 98% of all books never use arbitrage software!

                                        it's ok mate,continue to lose money

                                        I will keep my arbitrage betting

                                        Only some euro book has limited me
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                                        • moonbeam
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-02-07
                                          • 1496

                                          #21
                                          lol

                                          great to hear that rookie
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                                          • EBK
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 07-30-08
                                            • 40

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by moonbeam
                                            lol

                                            great to hear that rookie
                                            I'm rookie only here at SBR not a rookie of sport betting

                                            However to back on topic I suggest BetBrain.com


                                            Dear moonbeam,IHMO you've never try sporting arbitrage seriously.

                                            Until I make over 500€ a month just from clicking some odds,I don't care about sportbooks limit.

                                            EDIT: I suggest to avoid Tennis arbs,becuase each sportbooks have their own rules regarding set, especially when the match is suspended
                                            Last edited by EBK; 08-13-08, 03:09 PM.
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                                            • Santo
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-08-05
                                              • 2957

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by EBK
                                              Until I make over 500€ a month just from clicking some odds,I don't care about sportbooks limit.
                                              No offence, but you're not helping your case ;o)
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                                              • EBK
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 07-30-08
                                                • 40

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Santo
                                                No offence, but you're not helping your case ;o)
                                                yeah,but I don't agree with who wrote that arbs are bullshit.

                                                Even a monkey can do sporting arbitrage and with two hours a day I can cover almost all my girlfriend expences

                                                If you are a pro bettor and you've a great system and you pay all your bills with sport betting..Ok,congrats, you've my respect.

                                                But if you're just a poor gambler,don't tell lies regarding sport arbitrage just becuase you don't have enough money to do it.
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                                                • moonbeam
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-02-07
                                                  • 1496

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by EBK
                                                  I'm rookie only here at SBR not a rookie of sport betting

                                                  However to back on topic I suggest BetBrain.com


                                                  Dear moonbeam,IHMO you've never try sporting arbitrage seriously.

                                                  Until I make over 500€ a month just from clicking some odds,I don't care about sportbooks limit.

                                                  EDIT: I suggest to avoid Tennis arbs,becuase each sportbooks have their own rules regarding set, especially when the match is suspended


                                                  lol

                                                  ok little boy, you are a wise guy with your 500 a month

                                                  end of discussion
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                                                  • EBK
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 07-30-08
                                                    • 40

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by moonbeam
                                                    lol

                                                    ok little boy, you are a wise guy with your 500 a month

                                                    end of discussion
                                                    Better + 500 than - 1

                                                    Sincerely How much do you earn by sport betting?

                                                    If you EARN I surely give to you all my respect.

                                                    Anyway if your a rich man you can make over 2k a month with sport arbs with just a little risk and while drinking your coffee at home.

                                                    Here at SBR seems that all members are rich pro bettor..Oh,that's why bookmakers have introduced the limits
                                                    Last edited by EBK; 08-13-08, 03:42 PM.
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                                                    • Santo
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-08-05
                                                      • 2957

                                                      #27
                                                      EBK: Arbitrage is fine (and it's how I started), but my main criticism of it is that you're basically giving away money for the sake of reducing variance. If you just bet the slow side, for less, you'd last longer and make more. Then add other methods, and you progress your bankroll.
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                                                      • EBK
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 07-30-08
                                                        • 40

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Santo
                                                        EBK: Arbitrage is fine (and it's how I started), but my main criticism of it is that you're basically giving away money for the sake of reducing variance. If you just bet the slow side, for less, you'd last longer and make more. Then add other methods, and you progress your bankroll.
                                                        of course Arbs have their disavantage.

                                                        There are basically 5 or 6 risk divided in three categories:

                                                        You
                                                        The sportbooks
                                                        The match

                                                        yes,someone laugh if you tell that you've bet 100€ to win 2€.

                                                        But you can create a revenue and quit your job if you've enough bankroll and you're enough smart.
                                                        You can easily avoid the risk caused by "You".

                                                        You almost take off the gamble from gambling.

                                                        Personally I avoid to bet on "obscure" sportbooks even if they're avaiable on the arbs betting site that I use.

                                                        Most of my bet are on reliable euro books + Pinny + Betfair
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                                                        • moonbeam
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-02-07
                                                          • 1496

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by EBK
                                                          Better + 500 than - 1

                                                          Anyway if your a rich man you can make over 2k a month with sport arbs with just a little risk and while drinking your coffee at home.

                                                          You never can make 2k with sport arbs with just a little risk and while drinking your coffee at home while sitting in front of your arbitrage software. Not in the long term.

                                                          That´s what rookies think.

                                                          But thats the arguments the arbitrage software sellers like to sell their sh!t

                                                          Are you an arbitrage service seller?
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                                                          • EBK
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 07-30-08
                                                            • 40

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by moonbeam
                                                            You never can make 2k with sport arbs with just a little risk and while drinking your coffee at home while sitting in front of your arbitrage software. Not in the long term.

                                                            That´s what rookies think.

                                                            But thats the arguments the arbitrage software sellers like to sell their sh!t

                                                            Are you an arbitrage service seller?

                                                            YOU can make 2k a month with 20k bankroll.

                                                            Unfortunately I don't have 20 grand,I've only 3k and 500€ it's only what I can make each month.

                                                            And not I'm not a seller,I'm just an arbs punter.

                                                            I can tell you that some arbs provider sucks

                                                            the worst scam is SureBetPro...an MLM program masked by an arbs service

                                                            and I tell you for 2nd time that I'm not a rookie gambler.

                                                            SBR it's not my favorite betting forum simply becuase here there a lot of USA citizen and if you exclude Pinny, I don't use most of top rated sportbooks on SBR.
                                                            I use Betfair and all euro books instead. I've never used Matchbook for example.

                                                            I can understand from your words that you've never tried sport arbs seriously or if you've tried it you've used a scam software.

                                                            I've told before what arbs service I use (I don't repeat the name becuase I don't want to create suspect that I'm a seller)

                                                            and for who believe that you've to stay in front of your pc all day long I can tell you two things:

                                                            1) I use a "sound alert" that bring me on my pc every time there is a sure..of course I've to stay at home

                                                            2)With olympics games last night I've placed 32 sure bets within two hours...enough to bet all my little 3k bankroll
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                                                            • moonbeam
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-02-07
                                                              • 1496

                                                              #31
                                                              I started with this arbitrage things you are doing today 8 years ago.

                                                              I also felt so great as you today at these past days...but...

                                                              ...I guess you don´t want to hear this but you have a lot to learn.
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                                                              • EBK
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 07-30-08
                                                                • 40

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by moonbeam
                                                                I started with this arbitrage things you are doing today 8 years ago.

                                                                I also felt so great as you today at these past days...but...

                                                                ...I guess you don´t want to hear this but you have a lot to learn.
                                                                8 years ago... It was history..
                                                                The arbitrage site that I use was just born on 2000

                                                                I don't felt so great..I felt that I'm making money, so easy so good.

                                                                500€ could be like a penny for you, but for spending 2 hours a day,it's enough for me.

                                                                However I'm not try to convince anyone..Just do not post regarding arbs.

                                                                8 years man..8 years on the internet..Like 800 years of history.

                                                                It was like as use Youtube with a 56kbs connection.
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                                                                • artena
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 01-05-11
                                                                  • 5

                                                                  #33
                                                                  ArbSafe.com is also a surebets alert service and a choice for arbers. I think you lack of it, Bill



                                                                  Originally posted by Bill Dozer



                                                                  ________________________________________ ____
                                                                  Now that the best software ?
                                                                  Which do you like the most?
                                                                  The following
                                                                  sports arbitrage alert service providers:

                                                                  ArbAlarm
                                                                  ArbExpert
                                                                  ArbitragePro
                                                                  ArbHunters
                                                                  ArbSeek
                                                                  ArbWinner
                                                                  BetBrain
                                                                  BetRiskFree
                                                                  GotoBets
                                                                  Juice Trading
                                                                  Nickel Vacuum
                                                                  OddsAndBets
                                                                  OddsExchange
                                                                  SureBetPro
                                                                  Sports Punter
                                                                  Tip-Ex
                                                                  UCantLose
                                                                  WinRiskFree

                                                                  Thank you very much


                                                                  I would go with SureBetPro


                                                                  Welcome to the board Good. I think you might get some more answers if you change your title to Best Arbitrage or Best Lines service? BetBrain and then TipEx are the ones I hear mentioned most by Euro bettors.


                                                                  thank bill dozer help me !!

                                                                  My english very poor!
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                                                                  • sportsbetwin
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 03-07-09
                                                                    • 745

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by EBK
                                                                    yeah,but I don't agree with who wrote that arbs are bullshit.

                                                                    Even a monkey can do sporting arbitrage and with two hours a day I can cover almost all my girlfriend expences
                                                                    Monkeys are prone to making mistakes when using a keyboard under pressure!
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                                                                    • todd73nj
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 08-09-08
                                                                      • 824

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Some free services out there too if you search the forums and google.
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