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    Guissepee
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    I Need a Good Online SportsBook For Horses

    What you bet .. win/place/show? WPS and EXACTAS ONLY.
    Do you already have PP's or do you want a site that throws them in free if you make a bet? It would be nice, but I wouldn't mind buying winners choice.(any PPs you suggest other than Winners Choice)
    Where are you located? Wisconsin
    Do you bet several thousand a week or just $2 per play ? No more than 500 per week. Can't spend too much on WPS and exactas.
    Are you interested in Cash back bonus, or better odds? I would like for this sports book to take a very little percent to none of my winnings. I really don't care about rewards f they take as little of my money as possible.
    Do you want to bet to win or to lay ? Win
    What tracks do you want ? Just US, or some international too ? Just Arlington Park, TUP, and Aquedect.
    Do you want a place that gives you video of the races, do you need replays? Not a necessity, but I would appreciate it.


    additonal info: I was thinking BetAmerica, but I really would like to get everyone's two cents so I can decide between Twinspires and BetAmerica(mainly).

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    betamerica pissed me off bigtime! they took my deposit and then said they don't take bets from illinois. i said why the fuk is it in the drop down menu to sign up then. they said becuase we "plan" on offering fantasy betting in the future that i would be allowed to play. It was sickening becuase I made a good size deposit and had to wait a few days to get it credited back to my CC, i think like a week.

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    Sites like Twinspires and BetAmerica are not sportsbooks. They are legal ADW's. Any legal horse site is fine. Some better than other as far as rewards or rebates. Id recomend Offtrackbeting.com. Give the best rebates of any legal shop.

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    For non-sportbooks horse wagering, BetAmerica and TwinSpires have to be MUSTS!!! Payout is beyond easy. For sportsbook offering horse racing, I would have to go with GTBets (high payout limits, easy interface), 5Dimes ( low/multiple wager opitions, decent payout limits). Stay away from DSI..... TO hard to navigate horse software, been shut out by race time many of times.

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    Guissepee
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    @Hawkins, I saw that post on forums when I searched BetAmerica, and I found out they take bets from Wisconsin. My main concerns are that I think that the website might not give out full payouts. Does the website take any money from your profits, or do they make any ridiculous fees?
    Can anyone tell me anything bad about BetAmerica, otherwise, my choice is clear.

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    I like offtrackbetting.com, but they don't carry Arlington Park. And I have another question, are rebates money back? If so, I think I will choose OTB.
    Last edited by Guissepee; 04-01-13 at 03:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guissepee View Post
    I like offtrackbetting.com, but they don't carry Arlington Park. And I have another question, are rebates money back? If so, I think I will choose OTB.
    Yea, they dont offer fairgrounds or oaklawn either. Yes, the rebates are daily and are cash back. After you bet 300 dollars you get a 100 dollar bonus regardless of your results with the 300 that you wagered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guissepee View Post
    @Hawkins, I saw that post on forums when I searched BetAmerica, and I found out they take bets from Wisconsin. My main concerns are that I think that the website might not give out full payouts. Does the website take any money from your profits, or do they make any ridiculous fees?
    Can anyone tell me anything bad about BetAmerica, otherwise, my choice is clear.
    Last I checked betamerica didnt offer NYRA tracks. There rebates are no where as good as otb either.

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    You've covinced me to choose OTB. What is a good horse track I can bet on? Also, I need some good PP's to use. What is your favorite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guissepee View Post
    You've covinced me to choose OTB. What is a good horse track I can bet on? Also, I need some good PP's to use. What is your favorite?
    I would send you a referal as most horse places have but I guess they dont here, atleast i cant see where they do. I use DRFFormulator PP's. They are more expensive than basic but IMO are well worth it. NYRA tracks are my favorite to pay I follow on a daily basis, so Aqueduct right now.

    For other tracks that I play I generally use this site which has free brisnet pp's. http://www.trks2day.com/trks2day.html

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    If you like the idea of getting 10% added to all winning wagers and do not mind offshore 5 Dimes is that shop.

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    So, Aqueduct during the winter, and Belmont during the summer. They have great track takeouts too! Only 14% on WPS. I guess I'll move from Arlington park to NYRA. I think I'll stick with winners choice. Try it once and you fall in love with it. Thanks everyone for your help.

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    Whats winners choice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guissepee View Post
    So, Aqueduct during the winter, and Belmont during the summer. They have great track takeouts too! Only 14% on WPS. I guess I'll move from Arlington park to NYRA. I think I'll stick with winners choice. Try it once and you fall in love with it. Thanks everyone for your help.
    And not forget about the July- Sept. Saratoga meet for NYRA.

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    Amwager.com

    They offer every track, great rebates, great betting interface and free video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    Amwager.com

    They offer every track, great rebates, great betting interface and free video.
    Every track? This is there thoroughbred schedule for this coming Thursday.

    Will Rogers Downs 1:00 PM Thoroughbred
    Beulah Park 1:15 PM Thoroughbred
    Turf Paradise 3:00 PM Thoroughbred

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    I just stumbled apon watchandwager.com. Anyone ever tried them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpickens View Post
    Every track? This is there thoroughbred schedule for this coming Thursday.

    Will Rogers Downs 1:00 PM Thoroughbred
    Beulah Park 1:15 PM Thoroughbred
    Turf Paradise 3:00 PM Thoroughbred
    Yes every track, they probably haven't loaded all of that days schedule yet. They carry New York, Kentucky, Florida, Illinois, California and rebates on every track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    Yes every track, they probably haven't loaded all of that days schedule yet. They carry New York, Kentucky, Florida, Illinois, California and rebates on every track.
    Ok, I will take your word for it but I guess for today they didnt even list Parx. How are there rebates percentage wise? Do they have a sign up bonus at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpickens View Post
    Ok, I will take your word for it but I guess for today they didnt even list Parx. How are there rebates percentage wise? Do they have a sign up bonus at all?
    I know they had Parx today because I uploaded a file with plays today. Rebates are based on volume but I am sure they are better no matter your volume than what you can get at any other ADW, far as I know they don't offer a signup bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpickens View Post
    Whats winners choice?
    It's a pp that has trainer angle plays and has speed, pace, and class. I got one for free and now I'm hooked.
    Last edited by Guissepee; 04-02-13 at 11:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guissepee View Post
    It's a pp that has trainer angle plays and has speed, pace, and class. I got one for free and now I'm hooked.
    oh, id like to check that out what site is it on? Googled winners choice and didnt see anything about racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpickens View Post
    oh, id like to check that out what site is it on? Googled winners choice and didnt see anything about racing.
    Check out the Brisnet.com webpage. Believe Winner's Choice is one of their products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    Check out the Brisnet.com webpage. Believe Winner's Choice is one of their products.
    Ok thanks.

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    BetHorizon.com (Horizonsports.ag) offers alot of tracks and you get 7% back every 30 days on winning tickets... not bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by touchback View Post
    BetHorizon.com (Horizonsports.ag) offers alot of tracks and you get 7% back every 30 days on winning tickets... not bad...
    7% on only winning tickets only? That cant be right. Maybe 7% on however much you lost in a month. Why go with a site that only does rebates every 30 days when you should be getting them everyday?

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    I think Bookmaker is the best.No complaints after playing there for 10 years

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