[RESOLVED] BetOnline Seizes $9,425 in Winnings 3 Months Later

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  • pavyracer
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-12-07
    • 82541

    #36
    Originally posted by pologq
    what was the bet on? sorry if you said it already

    knowing how BOL is with these easy win bets I side with the book. they tell you a max when you click the info. i do not blame you though for trying. maybe doing less bets would have snuck thru.
    Where do I find these bets? I need to try one on my account and read the fineprint.
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    • HedgeHog
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-11-07
      • 10128

      #37
      Funds were at risk, so the bets should stand. BOL is free to boot the guy, but to take legitimate winnings can't be tolerated. OP has a valid complaint.
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      • ace7550
        SBR MVP
        • 05-08-15
        • 3729

        #38
        Again, show me the rule anywhere on their site.
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 60958

          #39
          I don't have much sympathy for anyone who takes a shot and then acts all outraged it doesn't work out.

          And that is NOT how the OP of this thread is acting.

          He is not acting like an outraged Karen. He is just trying to make a reasonable case directly to Dave Mason.

          Others should take note.
          Last edited by Optional; 03-11-23, 03:11 AM.
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          • Herky
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 05-09-10
            • 748

            #40
            Originally posted by ace7550
            Again, show me the rule anywhere on their site.
            The system doesn’t allow you to bet more than one time. He exploited a glitch or found a way around it in the system.
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            • ace7550
              SBR MVP
              • 05-08-15
              • 3729

              #41
              Originally posted by Herky
              The system doesn’t allow you to bet more than one time. He exploited a glitch or found a way around it in the system.
              It did allow him to bet more than one time. And BOL encourages players to max bet any of their lines as much as they want repeatedly.
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              • Herky
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 05-09-10
                • 748

                #42
                Originally posted by ace7550
                It did allow him to bet more than one time. And BOL encourages players to max bet any of their lines as much as they want repeatedly.
                So what? He KNOWINGLY cheated BOL on their booster bets. He got caught...end of story.
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                • Cicadasinthe
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 07-28-21
                  • 117

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Herky
                  So what? He KNOWINGLY cheated BOL on their booster bets. He got caught...end of story.
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                  • HedgeHog
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-11-07
                    • 10128

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Herky
                    So what? He KNOWINGLY cheated BOL on their booster bets. He got caught...end of story.
                    How the fuk did he "cheat" BOL? Did he bet a "bad line"---NO!. Did he bet after the game began--NO! All he did was make multiple bets at odds that were slightly above what was offered --and BOL allows (and even encourages) max re-bets after 61 seconds.I'm fairly certain the OP had to wait the obligatory 61 seconds between each $25 bet, so again how the fuk was BOL cheated azzhole?
                    Last edited by HedgeHog; 03-12-23, 04:26 PM.
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                    • ace7550
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-08-15
                      • 3729

                      #45
                      Anyways,
                      OP please let us know what happens. You should get your winnings or you losing bets refunded. Again, BOL can't have it both ways.
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                      • Herky
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 05-09-10
                        • 748

                        #46
                        Originally posted by HedgeHog
                        How the fuk did he "cheat" BOL? Did he bet a "bad line"---NO!. Did he bet after the game began--NO! All he did was make multiple bets at odds that were slightly above what was offered --and BOL allows (and even encourages) max re-bets after 61 seconds.I'm fairly certain the OP had to wait the obligatory 61 seconds between each $25 bet, so again how the fuk was BOL cheated azzhole?
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                        • weeminer
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 02-08-21
                          • 86

                          #47
                          People really trying to side with OP on this one? You act like weasel, you should expect to be treated like one.

                          Save your outrage for the 100 other ways sports books actually try to screw over honest bettors, not this nonsense.
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                          • hehfest
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-28-08
                            • 7934

                            #48
                            Sorry dude. If I were BOL I would do the same thing. Are you telling me you kept betting the same bet that was limited to 25 bucks? The only ONLY way I would say keep betting it.......is if the odds changed each time. If you repeated the same odds, then I wouldn't allow it. To me, its all about the odds changing or not changing.

                            I did not have time to read it thoroughly but based on my above paragraph...if BOL pays you out on anything but changing odds outside of your original bet....whomever did that should go see a doctor and get their head examined. On the software side, they should've just flat-out not allowed another bet after the 25; either way we all should know this shouldn't happen (you getting paid out in full).

                            I would honor your first 25 bet and any bet IF the odds changed as winners, and refund all repeat bets with the same odds.
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                            • Fishhead
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-11-05
                              • 40179

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Herky
                              So what? He KNOWINGLY cheated BOL on their booster bets. He got caught...end of story.
                              Seems that way, correct.
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                              • Fishhead
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-11-05
                                • 40179

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Frank
                                I would assume they have to have something in the rules somewhere.

                                They, at times, offer pretty much free money boosters that tie up money for a long time like "Will the Chiefs score 1 point in NFL week 1"

                                I'm sure they definitely would not allow someone to empty their account re-betting those types.

                                LOL, correct.
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                                • HedgeHog
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-11-07
                                  • 10128

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by weeminer
                                  People really trying to side with OP on this one? You act like weasel, you should expect to be treated like one.

                                  Save your outrage for the 100 other ways sports books actually try to screw over honest bettors, not this nonsense.
                                  Yes I side with OP, regardless of his "weasel" status. First off, I know of no rule that forbids re-betting the boosters. If there is, show it to me. Secondly, his bet was only slightly above actual market. In fact, I made this same Brady bet three times via BOL, SB and LV. Lastly, the OP made multiple bets on other boosters that lost--and BOL IS NOT RETURNING THOSE FUNDS. Seems like BOL is not averse to acting like a weasel too. Lastly, the bets were at legitimate risk and should be honored. As I said before, BOL is free to kick him out, but the OP gets to keep the funds won on the "Brady Violation". That's what an A Book would do IMO.
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                                  • HedgeHog
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-11-07
                                    • 10128

                                    #52
                                    Straight
                                    Odds Booster
                                    Daily Booster
                                    College Basketball Booster - Was +257
                                    FDU @ TXSO Over 147.5, ASU @ NEV Over 134.5 - NOW +300
                                    Risk 25.00 To Win 75.00

                                    Ticket Number 684736559 accepted
                                    Total Risk : 25.00
                                    Total Potential Win : 75.00
                                    Print Close
                                    Re-bet once the odds change or in 61 seconds
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                                    • HedgeHog
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-11-07
                                      • 10128

                                      #53
                                      Look at the above booster bet I just made. It clearly states you can bet again once the odds change or in 61 seconds. CASE CLOSED!

                                      Pay the weasel.
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                                      • Optional
                                        Administrator
                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 60958

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                        Straight
                                        Odds Booster
                                        Daily Booster
                                        College Basketball Booster - Was +257
                                        FDU @ TXSO Over 147.5, ASU @ NEV Over 134.5 - NOW +300
                                        Risk 25.00 To Win 75.00

                                        Ticket Number 684736559 accepted
                                        Total Risk : 25.00
                                        Total Potential Win : 75.00
                                        Print Close
                                        Re-bet once the odds change or in 61 seconds
                                        @OP you should send a screenshot of this from the BOL site to Dave Mason and see what he thinks.
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                                        • pavyracer
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 04-12-07
                                          • 82541

                                          #55
                                          Yes Hedgehog has a point here. That "Re-bet once the odds change or in 61 seconds" implies that the book actually encourages bettors to keep betting the same booster as long as the odds change or 61 seconds pass whichever happens first.
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                                          • Optional
                                            Administrator
                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 60958

                                            #56
                                            Can you actually bet again if you try HH?
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                                            • HedgeHog
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-11-07
                                              • 10128

                                              #57
                                              Straight
                                              Odds Booster
                                              Daily Booster
                                              College Basketball Booster - Was +257
                                              FDU @ TXSO Over 147.5, ASU @ NEV Over 134.5 - NOW +300
                                              Risk 25.00 To Win 75.00

                                              Ticket Number 684742197 accepted
                                              Total Risk : 25.00
                                              Total Potential Win : 75.00
                                              Print Close
                                              Re-bet once the odds change or in 61 seconds
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                                              • HedgeHog
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-11-07
                                                • 10128

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Optional
                                                Can you actually bet again if you try HH?
                                                Yes, but not at the same book. One of my bets was made at BOL and the other SB. I could do another at LV if I so choose. I haven't been able to re-bet boosters at any one book, not that I try on a regular basis. Obviously it's a glitch the OP experienced a few times, perhaps others as well.
                                                Last edited by HedgeHog; 03-15-23, 11:52 AM.
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                                                • ace878
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 03-06-23
                                                  • 10

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by ace7550
                                                  Anyways,
                                                  OP please let us know what happens. You should get your winnings or you losing bets refunded. Again, BOL can't have it both ways.
                                                  I emailed Dave last Thursday and followed up yesterday. No response to either.

                                                  I’ll wait a bit longer for an answer. If I don’t get one, I’ll look into a BMR complaint.
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                                                  • HedgeHog
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-11-07
                                                    • 10128

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by ace878
                                                    I emailed Dave last Thursday and followed up yesterday. No response to either.

                                                    I’ll wait a bit longer for an answer. If I don’t get one, I’ll look into a BMR complaint.
                                                    It took nearly a week for Dave to get back me regarding a misgraded golf bet, but he did get it corrected. Good luck and keep us updated please.
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                                                    • HedgeHog
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-11-07
                                                      • 10128

                                                      #61
                                                      Any update on this?
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                                                      • ace878
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 03-06-23
                                                        • 10

                                                        #62
                                                        I didn't get a reply from Dave Mason.

                                                        I filed a complaint with BMR last week. No response yet.
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                                                        • HedgeHog
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 09-11-07
                                                          • 10128

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by ace878
                                                          I didn't get a reply from Dave Mason.

                                                          I filed a complaint with BMR last week. No response yet.
                                                          This is theft, plain and simple...and by an A+ Book. I still use BOL, SB and LV but this is a real eye opener. Christ, their own software invites you to make these bets again and again.
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                                                          • HedgeHog
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-11-07
                                                            • 10128

                                                            #64
                                                            Another three months later and this case remains unresolved. The Betonline family of Books (BOL, Sportsbetting and Low Vig) are guilty recently of some real shady shiit.
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                                                            • Optional
                                                              Administrator
                                                              • 06-10-10
                                                              • 60958

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by ace878
                                                              In December, I bet an Odds Booster bet enough times to win $9,425. Normally, these bets are limited to $25, but I was allowed to bet it repeatedly.

                                                              It won, and I received the winnings. Last week, 3 months after the bets, a manager at BOL called me. He said I shouldn’t have been allowed to bet that much and the winnings would be removed.

                                                              I pointed out that my bets wouldn’t have been returned had I lost. In fact, in October, I bet a different Odds Booster bet many times and lost. I didn’t receive a refund or expect one, so why should this be any different?

                                                              It’s true that I exceeded the standard limit for this type of bet, and I probably shouldn’t have done that. But clearly my money was at risk, and canceling bets only if they win is wrong.

                                                              Do I have any options for a dispute?
                                                              Betonline have asked if we can get your account ID.

                                                              They say that they plan to pay you.
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                                                              • gauchojake
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 09-17-10
                                                                • 34103

                                                                #66
                                                                Interesting
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                                                                • HedgeHog
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 09-11-07
                                                                  • 10128

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                                  Betonline have asked if we can get your account ID.

                                                                  They say that they plan to pay you.
                                                                  Awesome, this case really bothered me. Hoping the OP is still lurking around and can still be contacted (only 8 posts so no way to PM him). Regardless, BOL should know who this guy is and can make this right.
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                                                                  • TheMoneyShot
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 02-14-07
                                                                    • 28672

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Definitely an interesting situation. Hopefully BO makes it right.
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                                                                    • EasyCover
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 02-01-11
                                                                      • 621

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                                      Betonline have asked if we can get your account ID.

                                                                      They say that they plan to pay you.
                                                                      They know who he is. Can't they just put it in his account?
                                                                      Or maybe they just want to give him a choice, like do you want to be paid or get banned for what he did.
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                                                                      • ace878
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 03-06-23
                                                                        • 10

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                                                        Betonline have asked if we can get your account ID.

                                                                        They say that they plan to pay you.
                                                                        Thank you for the update!

                                                                        I PM'd my information. BOL has not contacted me yet.
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