Placed $4075.02 on Alonzo Menifield at -200. Bodog return $1092 instead of $6111.53

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  • ewq1ewq1
    SBR Rookie
    • 08-08-21
    • 13

    #1
    Placed $4075.02 on Alonzo Menifield at -200. Bodog return $1092 instead of $6111.53
    Hello SBR,

    I am new to online gambling, I placed a bet $4000 on Alonzo Menifield at -200 and won the bet. Bodog credit me $1092 instead of $6111.53.

    Bodog explanation is. 'my $4000 bet', most of that money is bonus that have expired. Bodog only give me $250 to $300 bonus that expired. Than they explain that all money won with bonus money become bonus money.

    So the bonus money is mixed with real money. So when you lose, you lose your real money and when you win it is consider bonus money. It is complicated and confusing for me, How can they can take away $5020 from my balance when only $250 or $300 bonus that have expired?



    I place a bet of $3600 on Angela Hill at +115, Hill lost - so the lost, Bodog considered that is real money.
    I place a bet of $4075 on Alonzo Menifield at -200, Menifield won - so that win is considered bonus money. Both bet are virtual place at the same time. My $7000 balance becomes $1092 bonus money after the 2 bet is settled. It seems illegal that I did not get a return of $6000+ after winning such a huge bet on Menifield. Please SBR, can you look into this for me.

    Thank You for your help

    Tom
  • Optional
    Administrator
    • 06-10-10
    • 61056

    #2
    If your bonus expired, it is correct that all betting from it is cancelled.

    Please post Bodog's explanation in their own words?
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    • unluckysob
      SBR MVP
      • 05-21-08
      • 1527

      #3
      I've heard of books where bonus does NOT reset after bust out loss. Years without a payout then a nice win streak. You know you met roll over on last deposit. Book goes back several years and claims you have not met rollovers. Be careful with bonuses.
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      • lonegambler23
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-22-16
        • 9760

        #4
        this is why i never take bonuses. cash only homie . damn.
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        • ewq1ewq1
          SBR Rookie
          • 08-08-21
          • 13

          #5
          Originally posted by Optional
          If your bonus expired, it is correct that all betting from it is cancelled.

          Please post Bodog's explanation in their own words?
          Thank you for replying to my post, here is the explanation from Bodog

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          • ewq1ewq1
            SBR Rookie
            • 08-08-21
            • 13

            #6
            Bodog bonus is usually 50%, so if $250 or $500 bonus I have to deposit double. So my original $7000, 66.6% should be real money. After placing 2 bet, $3000 on Angela Hill and $4000 on Alonzo Menifield, Bodog say bonus expired and some how end up with $1092 bonus money win on Alonzo Menifield.

            It make no sense!
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            • gym rat
              SBR Sharp
              • 01-25-07
              • 472

              #7
              If the bonus expired, they should never have allowed you to make the wager. For that reason alone , it may be a good idea to leave this book.

              So it appears that you only had about $700 available that was not expired to win approximately $350 to return approx. $1050. So the other $3300 that you wagered was expired and discarded.

              I'm not really familiar with how their bonus system works but looks weird to me. We also don't know all your prior bets before these wagers.

              You clearly had to have made a large deposit of at least $7000 to have $3500 in bonus money. How your prior bets were graded and whether the money was lost as your original cash or bonus is difficult to understand without knowing their bonus system.

              Can you post their bonus system info? So we can see how they calculate clearing the bonus money?

              Either way it appears to be a bad bonus system and the book should never have let you make a wager if the money was already expired.
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              • ewq1ewq1
                SBR Rookie
                • 08-08-21
                • 13

                #8
                "You clearly had to have made a large deposit of at least $7000 to have $3500 in bonus money. How your prior bets were graded and whether the money was lost as your original cash or bonus is difficult to understand without knowing their bonus system."

                in your response to your question.

                The bodog bonus is between $250 to $750, so the maximum I ever deposit is only around $1500, I make many many bet prior to bonus expiring.
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                • Optional
                  Administrator
                  • 06-10-10
                  • 61056

                  #9
                  @Gym Rat... they are saying part of the money he bet was proceeds of a bonus that had not completed the rollover.


                  @awq1ewq1... look in your account history at the date and time your deposit was credited for the Super Bowl bonus please? And the date and time Your bet was struck, and the date time the game was played, and your bet was graded.

                  Also, would this bet have been enough to complete the bonus rollover? (if not, any argument is probably moot)
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                  • ewq1ewq1
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 08-08-21
                    • 13

                    #10
                    Hi Optional, I have been working full time and doing this as a side gig, I do not enough time to get familiar with bodog's layout and interface. I should have a bit more time tomorrow to retrieved the relevant information. Thank you for taking your time to look into this for me. Talk to you tomorrow.
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                    • Sea Turtle
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 06-14-21
                      • 254

                      #11
                      None of this story makes an ounce of sense
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                      • Sea Turtle
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 06-14-21
                        • 254

                        #12
                        This is the 3rd rule right in the list. Seems pretty clear you didnt read the rules and sat on the bonus and most of your winnings came off the bonus.

                        3. Bonuses are subject to wagering and rollover requirements and must be met by their specified timeline prior to any approved requested withdrawals.

                        The Wagering Requirements for each bonus are set out in the specific terms and conditions for the issued bonus and will be expressed as a multiple of the bonus amount, or of the bonus plus the Deposit amount - along with a time limit by which this amount must be played through. Failure to meet wagering or rollover requirements and/or forfeit of an active bonus for any reason; may result in the forfeit of all winnings attained throughout the wagering process of the bonus. Any attempt to withdraw any funds or cash out any placed bets prior to the complete fulfilment of the bonus wagerin
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388185

                          #13
                          looks like a bunch of BS
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                          • ewq1ewq1
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 08-08-21
                            • 13

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Optional
                            @Gym Rat... they are saying part of the money he bet was proceeds of a bonus that had not completed the rollover.


                            @awq1ewq1... look in your account history at the date and time your deposit was credited for the Super Bowl bonus please? And the date and time Your bet was struck, and the date time the game was played, and your bet was graded.

                            Also, would this bet have been enough to complete the bonus rollover? (if not, any argument is probably moot)
                            Bodog transaction history only goes back 30 days, so not sure what the amount of bonus for the Super Bowl is. Super Bowl bonus was credited on Feb 6 and expire Aug 6.

                            Angela Hill bet $3600 was placed on July 24.
                            Alonzo Menifield $4075.02 was placed on July 24.

                            The date the 2 game was played is on Aug 7.
                            The game was also graded on the same day on Aug 7.
                            I believe the 2 big bet is enough to clear the roll over.

                            Thank you for your time.
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                            • ewq1ewq1
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 08-08-21
                              • 13

                              #15


                              As you can see from the bonus pic above, the Super Bowl bonus clearing is stuck and every bet seems like it is clearing the 2nd bonus and after a few bet the Super Bowl bonus is still not clear, so I got frustrated and bet my whole balance of $7675.02 on 2 bet, Angela Hill and Alonzo Menifield to clear the bonus. So in my opinion, it is not right that my bet is contributed to the second bonus rollover instead of clearing the Super Bowl Bonus rollover
                              Last edited by ewq1ewq1; 08-13-21, 07:53 PM. Reason: error
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                              • Vyasports
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-27-19
                                • 4946

                                #16
                                OP can I ask how much you initially had in your account before taking the first bonus? and how much after 1st bonus, before taking 2nd bonus?
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                                • ewq1ewq1
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 08-08-21
                                  • 13

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Vyasports
                                  OP can I ask how much you initially had in your account before taking the first bonus? and how much after 1st bonus, before taking 2nd bonus?
                                  I likely have very little or no money before Super Bowl bonus offer. All I remember is I always take the max bonus offer.If anyone can chip in regarding Bodog's super bowl bonus, that would be greatly appreciated. Amount and %.I don't remember how much I have before taking on second bonus, I took the second bonus right away because the second bonus offer will expire soon.
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                                  • gym rat
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 01-25-07
                                    • 472

                                    #18
                                    The fact that you took the second bonus on top of the first bonus will make this even more complicated to understand. Hopefully you will be able to show that with the two large wagers that this was enough to clear both bonuses or the bonus before expiration. It's always best to know all the details to these bonuses and when you start stacking one bonus on another , it's imperative to know precisely how wager amounts will be credited and to which bonus, etc.
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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 61056

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ewq1ewq1


                                      As you can see from the bonus pic above, the Super Bowl bonus clearing is stuck and every bet seems like it is clearing the 2nd bonus and after a few bet the Super Bowl bonus is still not clear, so I got frustrated and bet my whole balance of $7675.02 on 2 bet, Angela Hill and Alonzo Menifield to clear the bonus. So in my opinion, it is not right that my bet is contributed to the second bonus rollover instead of clearing the Super Bowl Bonus rollover
                                      Ugh. Too complicated for us to work out.

                                      Honestly, their system probably has calculated it correctly, but if you send me a PM with your account number I will reach out to Bodog for you and ask them to double check why your last two bets did not count for the Superbowl bonus and clear it in time.
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                                      • Sea Turtle
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 06-14-21
                                        • 254

                                        #20
                                        Optional you can ask them for a favor but the bets clearly cleared after the bonus expired.

                                        A game has to be completed by the expiry date not just placed.

                                        Bonus ends Aug 6th and he places a bet for Aug 7th. lol
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                                        • ewq1ewq1
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 08-08-21
                                          • 13

                                          #21
                                          @Optional I sent you a PM, thanks for your help
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                                          • PharaohUB
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-23-07
                                            • 4865

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by unluckysob
                                            I've heard of books where bonus does NOT reset after bust out loss. Years without a payout then a nice win streak. You know you met roll over on last deposit. Book goes back several years and claims you have not met rollovers. Be careful with bonuses.
                                            Literally never had that problem and take bonuses all the time. Must be some shady books you shouldn't be playing at anyway.
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                                            • ewq1ewq1
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 08-08-21
                                              • 13

                                              #23
                                              $5000 is a lot of money to me, I am losing sleep over this. I was only 1 day late, if Bodog has some type of error message before I bet to warn me that this bet will be void due to expiry of bonus, then I would be ok, or if bets would clear the first bonus before the second bonus starts then I would of cleared most of my first bonus and this would not have happened. I am new to online site. I am betting my real money and bonus money together and still don't understand why I don't win any real money. Now all money become bonus and I still have to clear it before bonus expire again and my balance of $7000+ is wipe out due to technicality.
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                                              • Sea Turtle
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 06-14-21
                                                • 254

                                                #24
                                                Yes its Bovadas fault you cant see the date that is clearly on the bonus
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                                                • yahoonino
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-10-07
                                                  • 2651

                                                  #25
                                                  that why i dont take bonus,,,
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                                                  • eddycash
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-06-13
                                                    • 4527

                                                    #26
                                                    You did not follow their bonus rules. They are correct. You are wrong.
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                                                    • gym rat
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 01-25-07
                                                      • 472

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ewq1ewq1
                                                      $5000 is a lot of money to me, I am losing sleep over this. I was only 1 day late, if Bodog has some type of error message before I bet to warn me that this bet will be void due to expiry of bonus, then I would be ok, or if bets would clear the first bonus before the second bonus starts then I would of cleared most of my first bonus and this would not have happened. I am new to online site. I am betting my real money and bonus money together and still don't understand why I don't win any real money. Now all money become bonus and I still have to clear it before bonus expire again and my balance of $7000+ is wipe out due to technicality.
                                                      It appears that you are mainly betting with bonus money after taking bonus and most of your money was won from bonus money. So therefor the majority of your money according to their system was bonus money and unfortunately all that bonus money and money won from wagering the bonus money disappears if not wagered and apparently graded by the expiration date.

                                                      It's a different bonus system than most sportsbooks but as others have said it's best not to take the bonus money if you don't know all the rules precisely because they are designed to make it difficult to clear unless you really learn all the rules of their bonus system.
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                                                      • GigaOuts
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 527

                                                        #28


                                                        You have to be very careful with bodog bonus!!!
                                                        I use 50,000 pts to purchase and activate $250 bonus. I deposit and got the bonus credit on August 11, 2022. I was lucky I didn't wager any bet. The bonus Expired after 5 days. Their bonus system is 'free roll' the bonus whore. There is a possible you lose your bet or your winning will expire extreme quick, be careful with bodog/bovada bonus.

                                                        If OP didn't take the second bonus or bodog won't allow him to stack the bonus, this scenario could have been avoided it, too bad for OP. Betonline let you only work on 1 bonus at a time, never fail!
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                                                        • GigaOuts
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 01-02-12
                                                          • 527

                                                          #29

                                                          After 2 live chat session and 2 hr wasted, they put the bonus back. I am lucky I didn't wager $1000 plus bet and won! I would be in the same mess as OP, real money and winning money expired!
                                                          Last edited by GigaOuts; 08-17-21, 11:22 PM.
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                                                          • Roger T. Bannon
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-28-18
                                                            • 5139

                                                            #30
                                                            It has been a while since I have had a Bovada bonus but they are probably doing it the same way. They have a weird way of releasing money as you progress through rollover. So with each bet, you get a little bit of the bonus as a payout. The bonus expires after six months. So in this case, it seems he did bet with bonus money and it expired and they just credited the amount of cash in the account. It is a tricky system.
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                                                            • ewq1ewq1
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 08-08-21
                                                              • 13

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                                              It has been a while since I have had a Bovada bonus but they are probably doing it the same way. They have a weird way of releasing money as you progress through rollover. So with each bet, you get a little bit of the bonus as a payout. The bonus expires after six months. So in this case, it seems he did bet with bonus money and it expired and they just credited the amount of cash in the account. It is a tricky system.
                                                              There is no real money, even the money that is credit for the Alonzo Menifield bet that won of $1092, it is still bonus money, all the real money is gone. That $1092 bonus need to be clear by November.

                                                              It seems unfair that every time I win i accumulate more bonus money and every time I lose I lose my real money.

                                                              There are 2 simultaneous bet, so Bodog is saying $3600 on Angela Hill bet is real money and that is lost.

                                                              Alonzo Menifield bet is all bonus money some of that bonus money have expired due to the Superbowl bonus being expired so I only get $1092 balance instead of the whole $6111 balance. And that $1092 is bonus money. It just does not make sense for me to accumulate only bonus money when I win my bets in Bodog.
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                                                              • Sea Turtle
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 06-14-21
                                                                • 254

                                                                #32
                                                                What part of you missed the deadline are you missing?

                                                                You deposited a little amount,ran it up because of the bonus,and then from unknown reason place a wager a day after it expired.

                                                                Sucks but nothing should be coming to you
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                                                                • ewq1ewq1
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 08-08-21
                                                                  • 13

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Hi All, I am new to online gambling, just want to clear the bonus quick or go broke .... I went broke from $8000+ to zero.

                                                                  Yes I know it is my fault for not paying attention to the expire date but Bodog system should not allow bonus fund to be bet pass the expiry date. Still leave a very bad taste for me, wagering $4000 on Menifield to win $2000, end up with $1000 bonus fund after winning the bet.

                                                                  It would be nice if Bodog would show some goodwill instead of taking my whole winning due to their system failing to prevent an invalid bet and for me not paying attention of expiry date. And I was only 1 day late before the bonus expire.

                                                                  Bonus is over 80% cleared too or likely 100% cleared if bet rollover did not start the second bonus.
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                                                                  • ewq1ewq1
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 08-08-21
                                                                    • 13

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Sea Turtle
                                                                    What part of you missed the deadline are you missing?

                                                                    You deposited a little amount,ran it up because of the bonus,and then from unknown reason place a wager a day after it expired.

                                                                    Sucks but nothing should be coming to you
                                                                    How do you know I deposit a little money.
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                                                                    • Vyasports
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-27-19
                                                                      • 4946

                                                                      #35
                                                                      books can make a lot of mistakes and correct them afterwards. bettors make one mistake and pooof money gone! remember this; after all it is our money, we have to be careful.
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