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  • TheU
    SBR High Roller
    • 08-26-09
    • 147

    #1
    Heritage, BetOnline, or Bookmaker for Football season?
    What book to use out of these 3 for football season? Thoughts? Thanks
  • Stallion
    SBR MVP
    • 03-21-10
    • 3617

    #2
    1. Heritage
    2. Bookmaker
    3. Betonline
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    • littlekona
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-19-15
      • 5242

      #3
      Heritage just has more markets and options like them the best
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      • Mugsy777
        SBR Sharp
        • 08-26-20
        • 429

        #4
        Depends on what type of plays you like to make
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        • TheGoldenGoose
          SBR MVP
          • 11-27-12
          • 3745

          #5
          Utilize all three, of course, to always get your best price.

          Heritage most times has the sharpest lines but more limited max wagers.
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          • milwaukee mike
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 08-22-07
            • 26914

            #6
            Originally posted by Mugsy777
            Depends on what type of plays you like to make
            this

            for the average player, a bigger bonus is usually the best route
            for someone that likes to line shop, or bet props, they probably should have a balance at all 3
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            • BigdaddyQH
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-13-09
              • 19530

              #7
              Originally posted by milwaukee mike
              this

              for the average player, a bigger bonus is usually the best route
              for someone that likes to line shop, or bet props, they probably should have a balance at all 3
              Well said, but the truth of the matter is that 95% of the people in here who actually wager do NOT have enough money to adequately finance a three book operation.
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              • mjsuax13
                Moderator
                • 03-14-15
                • 25095

                #8
                Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                Well said, but the truth of the matter is that 95% of the people in here who actually wager do NOT have enough money to adequately finance a three book operation.
                Can you finance the hospital visit after a 3 hour beat down pal?
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                • kimwash78
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 09-10-17
                  • 784

                  #9
                  Better off playing in us books
                  Can’t compare the boosts
                  Plus the 1-3x rollover on any bonuses
                  They give to u each day
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                  • edawg
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-09-11
                    • 2820

                    #10
                    Depends on the amount you bet and when you bet. If you bet $50-$250 on game day=BAS. IF you bet 1k at anytime=Heritage. If you are a heavy hitter=Bookmaker. All three are solid and have their advantages. Try them all out at see what one matches your style of play. Not a fan of Bet Online but that's just me.
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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65583

                      #11
                      Originally posted by littlekona
                      Heritage just has more markets and options like them the best
                      I have Heritage, good book and all but I was rather surprised the other night when they wouldn't allow my Middleton prop (under 25.5 pts scored which won easily) with a Buck money line wager.

                      In my opinion that's not a correlated wager.
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                      • pokerdevil
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 04-20-16
                        • 433

                        #12
                        Originally posted by stevenash
                        I have Heritage, good book and all but I was rather surprised the other night when they wouldn't allow my Middleton prop (under 25.5 pts scored which won easily) with a Buck money line wager.

                        In my opinion that's not a correlated wager.
                        If anything that is inversely correlated. But I can't think of any offshore that lets you do that kind of parlay
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                        • DontTailMe
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-24-19
                          • 2897

                          #13
                          Originally posted by stevenash
                          I have Heritage, good book and all but I was rather surprised the other night when they wouldn't allow my Middleton prop (under 25.5 pts scored which won easily) with a Buck money line wager.

                          In my opinion that's not a correlated wager.
                          No, it shouldn't be a correlated play, but a lot of books just keep it simple and disallow any same game parlays so they don't have to go through the mental exercise of deciding which combinations to allow and then configuring that into the software. Easier just to say "no".
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                          • milwaukee mike
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 08-22-07
                            • 26914

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stevenash
                            I have Heritage, good book and all but I was rather surprised the other night when they wouldn't allow my Middleton prop (under 25.5 pts scored which won easily) with a Buck money line wager.

                            In my opinion that's not a correlated wager.
                            what book would allow that parlay?

                            i would argue that it had negative correlation... chances of bucks winning are greater when they score a lot of points, and that has a correlation to middleton scoring a bunch of points.
                            not a huge correlation though
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                            • DontTailMe
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-24-19
                              • 2897

                              #15
                              Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                              what book would allow that parlay?

                              i would argue that it had negative correlation... chances of bucks winning are greater when they score a lot of points, and that has a correlation to middleton scoring a bunch of points.
                              not a huge correlation though
                              He said under + Bucks win. Yes, inverse correlation, so the book should be okay with it, right?
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                              • milwaukee mike
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-22-07
                                • 26914

                                #16
                                Originally posted by DontTailMe
                                He said under + Bucks win. Yes, negative correlation, so the book should be okay with it, right?
                                yeah but if it's correlated i can't see why they would take either side of it

                                if alabama is -41 with a total of 47, books wouldn't let you parlay alabama with the over OR with the under
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                                • stevenash
                                  Moderator
                                  • 01-17-11
                                  • 65583

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DontTailMe
                                  He said under + Bucks win. Yes, inverse correlation, so the book should be okay with it, right?
                                  I'm OK with the decision, it wasn't an angle shoot on my part, my analysis of the game going in was that if the Bucks were going to win the Greek was going to take over and that nobody else had a shot pf scoring over 26 points.

                                  I see Heritage's point of view, I still don't see how a 50 dollar two spot parlay is going to hurt them though.
                                  Not upset at all, I sent in as a stand alone single prop bet instead.
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                                  • BeerForBreakfast
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 07-17-21
                                    • 3

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                    I'm OK with the decision, it wasn't an angle shoot on my part, my analysis of the game going in was that if the Bucks were going to win the Greek was going to take over and that nobody else had a shot pf scoring over 26 points.

                                    I see Heritage's point of view, I still don't see how a 50 dollar two spot parlay is going to hurt them though.
                                    Not upset at all, I sent in as a stand alone single prop bet instead.
                                    Assuming these aren't individually reviewed and the software kicks them out automatically.
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                                    • Judge Crater
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-05-20
                                      • 2024

                                      #19
                                      Funny that those are three of my four posted up sportsbooks
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                                      • Fishhead
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 08-11-05
                                        • 40179

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by kimwash78
                                        Better off playing in us books
                                        Can’t compare the boosts
                                        Plus the 1-3x rollover on any bonuses
                                        They give to u each day
                                        No, this is not true

                                        Offshore far better unless you’re in Nevada
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                                        • kimwash78
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 09-10-17
                                          • 784

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Fishhead
                                          No, this is not true

                                          Offshore far better unless you’re in Nevada



                                          we can agree to disagree, but when betmgm gives an initial bonus of $600 1x rollover ,then just for playing they offer number bonuses throughout week(1x roollover), then unibet $500 initial bonus (1x rollover, )and thats just to name some, please enlighten me what makes offshore better?
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            Heritage by far
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                                            • kimwash78
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 09-10-17
                                              • 784

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Heritage by far
                                              Because you say so? Obviously Fishhead and you are getting paid from these sportsbooks to promote then, but atleast come up with some reasons why.. Does BAS and Heritage offer
                                              15-40% freeplays if u win on 4 team -7 team parlays, mgm does. And I have no stock in any of these US books
                                              But atleast advise the players correctly.
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61534

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by kimwash78




                                                we can agree to disagree, but when betmgm gives an initial bonus of $600 1x rollover ,then just for playing they offer number bonuses throughout week(1x roollover), then unibet $500 initial bonus (1x rollover, )and thats just to name some, please enlighten me what makes offshore better?
                                                MGM has limited several 'sharps' around here to $500 max win on everything quickly.

                                                They do have super attractive promotional offers though. So definitely one for the recreational bettors.
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                                                • gshock1
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 12-04-09
                                                  • 5366

                                                  #25
                                                  US Books will always limit sharp players. I've heard draftkings has limited some to 50 -100. This is why offshores, like BM, that take high limits will always be around and thrive.
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                                                  • milwaukee mike
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 08-22-07
                                                    • 26914

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by gshock1
                                                    US Books will always limit sharp players. I've heard draftkings has limited some to 50 -100. This is why offshores, like BM, that take high limits will always be around and thrive.
                                                    bookmaker is so good

                                                    not perfect, but they aren't afraid to take bets

                                                    bellator spread/totals tonight, bookmaker 1000/500 limit with repops, highest i can get anywhere else is bol 250/100
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by kimwash78
                                                      we can agree to disagree, but when betmgm gives an initial bonus of $600 1x rollover ,then just for playing they offer number bonuses throughout week(1x roollover), then unibet $500 initial bonus (1x rollover, )and thats just to name some, please enlighten me what makes offshore better?
                                                      other than signups and occasional $25 boost they are garbage
                                                      your a real dope and a born loser

                                                      nobody in their right mind plays usa books with that awful juice
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                                                      • kimwash78
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 09-10-17
                                                        • 784

                                                        #28
                                                        Listen you fat ugly penetrate..if anyones a loser its definitely you..Know what your talking about instead of telling people what your paid to say fat boy...Overseas sportsbooks couldnt hold a candle compared to US books, but maybe the fat is your face is covering your eyes...
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                                                        • Optional
                                                          Administrator
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 61534

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by kimwash78
                                                          Listen you fat ugly penetrate..if anyones a loser its definitely you..Know what your talking about instead of telling people what your paid to say fat boy...Overseas sportsbooks couldnt hold a candle compared to US books, but maybe the fat is your face is covering your eyes...
                                                          To be fair, you are trying to compare BetMGM Bubblegum bookie to serious bookmakers.

                                                          JJ isn't always right, but he is 100% correct here.
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                                                          • kimwash78
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 09-10-17
                                                            • 784

                                                            #30
                                                            Optional
                                                            I was comparing FanDuel DraftKings
                                                            All us books not just BetMGM( was an example). As for the moron JJ who knows zero about sports( he thinks people actually listen to him), and only only promotes books that pay him to do so, is telling players to play at books that limit players and can’t put serious money down atleast from
                                                            what I read. I was referring to the bonuses that all these US books offer and their rollovers and promos they offer All fatboy says each day is reduced juice which is not as an big advantage compared to some of the us books. And for what it’s worth some of these US books have their issues also.
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                                                            • Optional
                                                              Administrator
                                                              • 06-10-10
                                                              • 61534

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by kimwash78
                                                              Optional
                                                              I was comparing FanDuel DraftKings
                                                              All us books not just BetMGM( was an example). As for the moron JJ who knows zero about sports( he thinks people actually listen to him), and only only promotes books that pay him to do so, is telling players to play at books that limit players and can’t put serious money down atleast from
                                                              what I read. I was referring to the bonuses that all these US books offer and their rollovers and promos they offer All fatboy says each day is reduced juice which is not as an big advantage compared to some of the us books. And for what it’s worth some of these US books have their issues also.
                                                              I love the legal offerings.

                                                              I love the bonuses and promos.

                                                              No use trying to compare them to serious bookies though.


                                                              If you love maninstream licensed books too, then you are probably a very normal rec bettor like most of us here. The guys you are arguing with think differently.
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                                                              • Pacific Square
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 12-08-12
                                                                • 313

                                                                #32
                                                                Offshore would be my preference but you have to use bitcoin and the fees are complete effing bullsh!t.

                                                                You will get hit 3 F*CKEN TIMES IN FEES to deposit and twice to withdraw..

                                                                1. Buying bitcoin from exchange (MASSIVE FEES / SCALES HIGHER DEPENDING ON AMOUNT)
                                                                2. Move bitcoin to a wallet (MORE FEES / AGAIN SCALES HIGHER WITH AMOUNT)
                                                                3. Move bitcoin from wallet to sportsbook (FEES AGAIN / ONCE AGAIN SCALES HIGHER DEPENDING ON AMOUNT)

                                                                - GET HIT TWICE WHEN YOU'RE MAKING A WITHDRAWAL. At least sportsbooks will cover the first fee associated with a withdrawal, you have to pay the last two.

                                                                This is what ruined offshore for most of us and why if you're lucky enough to be in a legal state, a gazillion times better.
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                                                                • DontTailMe
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-24-19
                                                                  • 2897

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Fees are incredibly low right now. And there are strategies you can implement to greatly reduce the number of fees you have to pay. Bitcoin is a godsend since it eliminates all of the BS issues you have to deal with with other transaction methods. With bitcoin, everything is under your control.
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                                                                  • milwaukee mike
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 08-22-07
                                                                    • 26914

                                                                    #34
                                                                    bitcoin isn't as good as the old neteller days, but still much better than the check/*********** days

                                                                    what ruined offshore for me wasn't bitcoin fees, it was sportsbooks becoming more and more shitty... the #1 thing that killed my ability to make money was betonline cancelling live bets so often that it's heads they win, tails you lose
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                                                                    • weeminer
                                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                                      • 02-08-21
                                                                      • 86

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by DontTailMe
                                                                      Fees are incredibly low right now. And there are strategies you can implement to greatly reduce the number of fees you have to pay. Bitcoin is a godsend since it eliminates all of the BS issues you have to deal with with other transaction methods. With bitcoin, everything is under your control.
                                                                      A post on some of the ways you keep all the bitcoin fees down would be very helpful. Bitcoin network fees are nothing, but I still haven't found an optimal way of using the exchanges and personal wallets to not lose a decent chunk of money in the process. Especially when transacting $ xx,000 amounts.
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