[Resolved] Problem with payout with Bet Phoenix

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  • Ksherm
    SBR MVP
    • 07-13-10
    • 1070

    #36
    Right. been a while now.. No new info..
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    • gym rat
      SBR Sharp
      • 01-25-07
      • 476

      #37
      Are they Not Paying any of their players right now? Or are there just a few cases and most people being paid?
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      • DontTailMe
        SBR MVP
        • 03-24-19
        • 2897

        #38
        The last payout I see in the Report threads is back on May 18th:



        But that doesn't mean much since those threads aren't incredibly active, and it's a relatively small book. I haven't requested a payout from that family in a while, so I can't provide any helpful info. But I have a hard time believing they just stopped paying everyone though. We would have heard a lot more ruckus here. We "only" have 3 no-pays in this thread as far as I can tell (not to diminish the importance of those 3 cases).
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #39
          A few cases only
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          • Ksherm
            SBR MVP
            • 07-13-10
            • 1070

            #40
            Yea for some reason they wont answer Sbr's inquiries..
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            • Ksherm
              SBR MVP
              • 07-13-10
              • 1070

              #41
              Been 2 months now.. Still no response from Betphoenix.. Obviously they have no proof of wrongdoing.. Can we get this rectified please?
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              • Sea Turtle
                SBR Sharp
                • 06-14-21
                • 254

                #42
                Ksherm this ever get paid? Was thinking of depositing but this thread is very strange as to why no answer.
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                • ace7550
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-08-15
                  • 3729

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Sea Turtle
                  Ksherm this ever get paid? Was thinking of depositing but this thread is very strange as to why no answer.
                  I wouldn't deposit there until this gets dealt with.
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                  • Ksherm
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-13-10
                    • 1070

                    #44
                    Still $0. Optimal is in discussions w the owner. Should hear soon.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #45
                      always a sign of money issue when a book screws a player
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 61672

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Optional

                        Shoot in a complaint form and we can ask them about this at the same time as Ksherm's issue. https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
                        Originally posted by ivanho
                        i will fill out a complain righ now
                        No sign of this complaint form Ivanho.

                        Please confirm if you have been paid.
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                        • ivanho
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 05-19-21
                          • 6

                          #47
                          they payout me only deposit $595.02. I still waitting for $13257.71
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #48
                            They are begging people for money too massive calling and emails campaigns

                            not a good sign
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                            • Legions36
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-17-10
                              • 3032

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Ksherm
                              Still $0. Optimal is in discussions w the owner. Should hear soon.
                              Wow I have seen you around here for a while and have never known any wrongdoing from you. They were scared before and must be in trouble from covid and legal betting losing out on, some bogus excuses from this family to not pay people, seems like they trying to wait it out for football season in hopes of new deposits. This book is complete dog shiz and I remember how difficult it was to place wagers with them or how annoying it was during the rollover process.
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                              • UndersONLY
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 12-04-19
                                • 6

                                #50
                                They did same thing to me. Paid my deposit but stole my winnings.

                                Anyone able to actually do anything this book is stealing from multiple players money without any actual evidence. Aren't they rated a B here?
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 61672

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by UndersONLY
                                  They did same thing to me. Paid my deposit but stole my winnings.

                                  Anyone able to actually do anything this book is stealing from multiple players money without any actual evidence. Aren't they rated a B here?

                                  Have you sent in an SBR complaint form about this one?

                                  Speaking to them now so can check on your situation too.


                                  What did they accuse you of?
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                                  • Optional
                                    Administrator
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 61672

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by ivanho
                                    they payout me only deposit $595.02. I still waitting for $13257.71
                                    Check your PM Inbox please.
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                                    • UndersONLY
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 12-04-19
                                      • 6

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                      Have you sent in an SBR complaint form about this one?

                                      Speaking to them now so can check on your situation too.


                                      What did they accuse you of?
                                      No didn't file a complaint yet. Not sure how.

                                      They accused me of shared IP
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                                      • UndersONLY
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 12-04-19
                                        • 6

                                        #54
                                        Just tried to sign in to my BP account. Looks they disabled it as it will no longer will let me sign in.

                                        Optional,

                                        Let me know if you need any more information
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                                        • Optional
                                          Administrator
                                          • 06-10-10
                                          • 61672

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by UndersONLY

                                          No didn't file a complaint yet. Not sure how.

                                          They accused me of shared IP
                                          Would you please fill in this form https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/

                                          Are you the person they think shared an IP with Ivanho?
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                                          • UndersONLY
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 12-04-19
                                            • 6

                                            #56
                                            Not sure who they think I shared an IP with. They sent me some basic info but it doesn't show anything.
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #57
                                              These small books look for reasons not to pay

                                              It is their whole game
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                                              • Ksherm
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-13-10
                                                • 1070

                                                #58
                                                Gettin ugly at Betphoenix.

                                                They are digging for reasons not to pay people these days..
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                                                • RocketMan$$$
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 09-11-17
                                                  • 214

                                                  #59
                                                  I got paid 2300 a few weeks back by btc it took about 5 days in total.
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                                                  • Optional
                                                    Administrator
                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                    • 61672

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by ivanho
                                                    they payout me only deposit $595.02. I still waitting for $13257.71


                                                    Betphoenix has supplied screenshots from their admin panel detailing connections between this account and quite a number of others which they say form part of multiple accounts being utilized by a betting syndicate.

                                                    Basically they are saying this account has been either sold to, or is bearding for, a single person.

                                                    They were also able to supply screenshot evidence of the same limit bets being placed on a string of these accounts one after the other.

                                                    In the face of this evidence. SBR has closed the case as handled fairly by Betphoenix.
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                                                    • Sea Turtle
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 06-14-21
                                                      • 254

                                                      #61
                                                      So Ksherm was involved in this account fraud. Unreal he seemed legit.
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                                                      • Optional
                                                        Administrator
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 61672

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Sea Turtle
                                                        So Ksherm was involved in this account fraud. Unreal he seemed legit.
                                                        No, this was a different matter.

                                                        I am still waiting on a re-consideration of Ksherm's penalty.
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                                                        • Ksherm
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-13-10
                                                          • 1070

                                                          #63
                                                          Im sure they'r gonna say i am.. Which is total bullshit..
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                                                          • Ksherm
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-13-10
                                                            • 1070

                                                            #64
                                                            I guess when you take a good line and bet the max on it... Which is only $500 you are in a syndicate?
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                                                            • Optional
                                                              Administrator
                                                              • 06-10-10
                                                              • 61672

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Ksherm
                                                              Im sure they'r gonna say i am.. Which is total bullshit..
                                                              You know they already suggested multi accounting.

                                                              I responded that I do not believe your situation is like the one in this thread and asked that he check a bit deeper if there really is any advantage being taken by you and friends.

                                                              You don't really want your case associated with this thread by them. I think you started one about it a while back? maybe bump that one instead.
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                                                              • Black Coffee
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-04-19
                                                                • 1187

                                                                #66
                                                                Thanks for the update Optional.
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                                                                • ace7550
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-08-15
                                                                  • 3729

                                                                  #67
                                                                  So how did this get resolved?
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                                                                  • Sea Turtle
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 06-14-21
                                                                    • 254

                                                                    #68
                                                                    How about reading Optionals post 5 posts back. Thanks for the effort.
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                                                                    • ivanho
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 05-19-21
                                                                      • 6

                                                                      #69
                                                                      SBR, this issue needs to be dealt with immediately. How can you dismiss this issue by stating there is no room for argument. I am not arguing anything. I want the truth to be told. I feel that I received this email by you, in a very hostile manner. I have asked Betphoenix numerous times to show me proof, to show me evidence, to show and explain their questions and I have not received anything. This is outrageous. If proof was given to SBR then as the accused I demand to see the proof. This situation is very concerning and I would like my questions answered. I cannot be accused of something that I did not do. Please advise me in detail the proof you received. The only answer I received from Betphoenix was that they are accusing me of playing in a sindicate. I had to research what that meant because I do not understand how they can accuse me of something like that. They also mentioned that 10 people played the same game at the same time. How in the world would I control that, this is so disturbing and makes no sense. People all over the world can be playing the same time especially when they have the best odds. If Betphonenix has the proof, I would like that proof posted on SBR. I have read some forums and it seems like this issue has happened before to others.
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                                                                      • ace7550
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 05-08-15
                                                                        • 3729

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                                                        Betphoenix has supplied screenshots from their admin panel detailing connections between this account and quite a number of others which they say form part of multiple accounts being utilized by a betting syndicate.

                                                                        Basically they are saying this account has been either sold to, or is bearding for, a single person.

                                                                        They were also able to supply screenshot evidence of the same limit bets being placed on a string of these accounts one after the other.

                                                                        In the face of this evidence. SBR has closed the case as handled fairly by Betphoenix.
                                                                        Sorry I missed this when reading through the thread. Thanks for the update Optional. Tough to argue with that evidence. A bunch of accounts max betting the same thing is pretty damning evidence.
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