$20 on Maryland...Are you kidding me????
Bet Rivers Rejected my bet
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tbill1SBR High Roller
- 12-17-09
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#1Bet Rivers Rejected my betTags: None -
OptionalAdministrator
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#2Live or pre-game?.Comment -
tbill1SBR High Roller
- 12-17-09
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#3Pregame...Never had a problem with them since last August when I signed up here in Illinois. Last few weeks every bet I make at 7 in the morning has to be approved for $20. This was the first time one was rejected.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#4Did it say why? There are a number of reasons why a bet could be rejected.Comment -
tbill1SBR High Roller
- 12-17-09
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#5When the Bet slip was telling me I needed approval, it gave me the option to make a lower bet-which I presume would have been accepted. After the $20 was rejected and I tried again a few minutes later, it said my $20 was too high a wager .Last edited by tbill1; 03-07-21, 11:40 AM.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#6
Are you already using all 5 of the IL books?Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
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#7I wonder if a real trader is not on duty at 7.00am and you are just getting blocked by a nervous nellie.
Or maybe the market you bet had not been checked to be open by a real trader. Or maybe it had not been updated in the last few hours so they automatically made it 20 bucks for the moment.
I've tried to place $50 bets that got reduced to $10 by traders a couple of times at one book I have, but there have been no other signs my personal account is limited there. So think those instances have been nothing to do with me personally. Might be the same for you..Comment -
tbill1SBR High Roller
- 12-17-09
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#8I use Draft Kings, FanDuel , and Bet Rivers. No reason to limit me, as my account is small potatoes and I am down slightly. Other than making $50 NFL bets on Sundays because of their 50 % odds boost, my bets are always $20-$25Comment -
tbill1SBR High Roller
- 12-17-09
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#9I wonder if a real trader is not on duty at 7.00am and you are just getting blocked by a nervous nellie.
Or maybe the market you bet had not been checked to be open by a real trader. Or maybe it had not been updated in the last few hours so they automatically made it 20 bucks for the moment.
I've tried to place $50 bets that got reduced to $10 by traders a couple of times at one book I have, but there have been no other signs my personal account is limited there. So think those instances have been nothing to do with me personally. Might be the same for you.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#10
You know that Rivers has the exact same lines as Draftkings? And their app sucks. I only use Rivers for the specials. And ocassionally if I can't even down at DK.Comment -
tbill1SBR High Roller
- 12-17-09
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#11I ended up making it at DK. Just trying to balance my bets between the books, as I already had made several at DKComment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#12you would think with all the $$$'s on the line they would invest a bit more and get the APP to acceptable working order and easier to navigate. It really is horrible but then they are associated with Churchill downs so there you have the reason as Churchill is a CRAP outfit from head to toes. desktop is fine plus the do have the fastest withdrawals and decent rewards and promo'sComment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#13you would think with all the $$$'s on the line they would invest a bit more and get the APP to acceptable working order and easier to navigate. It really is horrible but then they are associated with Churchill downs so there you have the reason as Churchill is a CRAP outfit from head to toes. desktop is fine plus the do have the fastest withdrawals and decent rewards and promo'sComment -
nickfolker23SBR Wise Guy
- 09-27-20
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#14Wow $20 is too high of a wager on a non-limited account?
Nice 'risk' management...Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#16Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#17Europe runs most lines usa sportsbooks and lines the same at many properties under this company
Kambi is the world’s trusted sportsbook partner, providing high-performance technology and regulatory certainty across an unmatched range of betting products.
Rivers one of them
PA they run 7 out of 11 booksComment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#18Europe runs most lines usa sportsbooks and lines the same at many properties under this company
Kambi is the world’s trusted sportsbook partner, providing high-performance technology and regulatory certainty across an unmatched range of betting products.
Rivers one of them
PA they run 7 out of 11 books
Draftkings, BetSafe, Unibet, Parx, Penn National, 888sport etc.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#20
But they let you keep winning.
They're also supposed to be switching away from Kambi by the end of Sept.Comment -
ShiftySBR Wise Guy
- 08-10-08
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#21Just checked the limit. Bet Rivers lets me win $11.94 on college baskets. At DK I can get 10x that amount.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#22
I can do $222.24 right now on Elon total. $681.24 on spread. Actually I think those are regular limits and not the early limits.
Live limits are lower.Comment -
ShiftySBR Wise Guy
- 08-10-08
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#23It may still be on overnight limits. But it doesn't go much higher.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#24Right. Just curious if we're exactly the same. I'm guessing yes. I think they just have different levels but don't micromanage from there. Mine used to be at least 4x higher.
But once you get down to this level, it looks like they don't limit further.Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
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#25You probably won't have the same limits.
One reason book operators like Kambi is that they are supposed to have one of the most accurate and fairest player risk rating systems.
Kambi backend will limit you to some extent, but if you get collared big time it is the book itself reacting to the Kambi risk rating.
You can work out what Kambi thinks of you, compared to the actual book, by joining another Kambi book and seeing what limits you have there compared to others..Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#26You probably won't have the same limits.
One reason book operators like Kambi is that they are supposed to have one of the most accurate and fairest player risk rating systems.
Kambi backend will limit you to some extent, but if you get collared big time it is the book itself reacting to the Kambi risk rating.
You can work out what Kambi thinks of you, compared to the actual book, by joining another Kambi book and seeing what limits you have there compared to others.Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#27
So Kambi collates your information from various books and assigns a risk rating based on their multiple books and shares that with each??? If so, I did now know that. So far in IL we only have 2 Kambi books (Rivers and DK). But we're going to have more soon. I was hoping they didn't share info like that so I could ease in and mask my play at the newer Kambi books so I don't "kill the golden goose". I love Kambi books, but DK is migrating away so I'll need another one hopefully as tolerant, but that may be a tall task.
But they do not seem to tell book operators what to do as far as limits, so if BetRivers limits you hard it won't mean Draftkings will know that happened or do the same..Comment -
ShiftySBR Wise Guy
- 08-10-08
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#28Not sure if that's the case Opti. I got limited from my already low limits by 2 Kambi books on the same day. They probably didn't like me hitting both books with the same bets every time.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#29
Barstool is Kambi and they will be joining IL soon. So are you telling me that Barstool will have a risk rating on me based on my play at other books before I place a single wager with them?Comment -
ShiftySBR Wise Guy
- 08-10-08
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#30If that's the case then I'm surprised that Rivers hasn't limited me harder, given what others have said. My limits at Rivers are about the same as DK, but I know many have been limited harder at Rivers. I've mostly just done promos and specials at Rivers (and so I've had some profit, though nothing tremendous), although I have played a few regular plays of recent.
Barstool is Kambi and they will be joining IL soon. So are you telling me that Barstool will have a risk rating on me based on my play at other books before I place a single wager with them?Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#31
So it may not be 100% accurate worldwide, but I think the basic system of Kambi not knowing player names unless they go out of their way to ask operators about specific accounts, and only applying minimal limiting via the backend, and trying to have a system where every book using them is not a clone of the others, is true worldwide..Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
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#32If that's the case then I'm surprised that Rivers hasn't limited me harder, given what others have said. My limits at Rivers are about the same as DK, but I know many have been limited harder at Rivers. I've mostly just done promos and specials at Rivers (and so I've had some profit, though nothing tremendous), although I have played a few regular plays of recent.
Barstool is Kambi and they will be joining IL soon. So are you telling me that Barstool will have a risk rating on me based on my play at other books before I place a single wager with them?
But as Kambi openly say they collect device fingerprints, there would be nothing to stop them linking up your Barstool and Rivers accounts that way..Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
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#33Actually, I guess if you use different devices and connections for each book, that would stop Kambi auto linking you that way.
But I think the key to their business philosophy is trying to make each customer book manage the majority of the player risk decisions. So players don't feel like joining multiple Kambi books is useless..Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#34
Will Hill has been an amazing book for me. I'm still surprised. Fingers crossed it stays that way.Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#35Really? WH IMO is the worst of the 5. I so want it to be good as I love Grand Victoria but man it really needs huge improvements with its markets. by far the worst wagering menu in Illinois. Look at EPL its sick how bad it is for a UK bookmakerComment
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