Are there any? I heard Pinnacle does but also that they don't...
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Well said!
Even Pinnacle reduces limits if you're constantly beating them.
Still, you can't compare Pinnacle Limits with softbookmakers. If you don't bet minor leagues such as Russia Volleyball, Nicaragua 2nd League soccer, you should be fine with major league limits. The problem about Pinnacle is, despite the low juice; there's no value on odds. Very hard to find valuable odds in Pinnacle. You can find much better prices in softbookmakers..
Betfair? There's Premium Charge..
Nobody likes winners these days..
Best bet is to use a broker agent company and place your bets via them.Comment -
I agree about pinny, i used to win a lot in soccer there, i noticed whenever i placed a bet on soccer (over/under goals) the odds would decrease. I dnt know if i was being targeted... I even emailed them about this but they denied it saying there was no limits to my account. But the prb was odds were decreasing even when i was not placing max stakes per bets...so ....Well said!
Even Pinnacle reduces limits if you're constantly beating them.
Still, you can't compare Pinnacle Limits with softbookmakers. If you don't bet minor leagues such as Russia Volleyball, Nicaragua 2nd League soccer, you should be fine with major league limits. The problem about Pinnacle is, despite the low juice; there's no value on odds. Very hard to find valuable odds in Pinnacle. You can find much better prices in softbookmakers..
Betfair? There's Premium Charge..
Nobody likes winners these days..
Best bet is to use a broker agent company and place your bets via them.Comment -
It depends on what sort of "professional" you are.
People who call themselves sharp or pro, but turn out to be nothing more than Multi-accounters, steam chasers and shot takers, are a dime a dozen around here.
They are the only people Pinny, Bookmaker and Betonline are penalizing 95% of the time.
You won't be booted for "simply winning too much" at any of those three..Comment -
Depends on what you are winning at too. I only stick to major markets. NFL,NBA,MLB mostly. If I'm betting smaller markets its at lesser known books and I know I stand a chance of being limited or booted. It's definitely interesting analyzing data and where you win and how much and how you are treated.Comment -
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Any book will limit no matter how good they are if you win enough. Let you play? Yes. But they will limitComment -
pinnacle bm and betonline will never boot or limit you on major markets
BOL will on smaller markets, BM maybe, Pinn never.Comment -
I've seen Pinnacle limit in MLB.
In my personal experience, BM and BOL/LV will not limit. Some posters on here have been limited by LowVig. I make a point to never bet steam and always let those books move if they want to move before making my bet. An example would be on BM, they have an initial auto-move in most markets and depending on your account the trader will move it extra. I always give them a minute or so before double maxing if it's a market where the trader usually moves extra off my first bet. Could I get away with trying to beat their trader to my double max before he gets to it? Possibly, but I'd rather not roll the dice on them caring and then limiting meComment -
Someone said Bookmaker. Well, yes, they allow pros to play, but they don't like them. Removed loyalty program hits very fast, next is reduced WD limits with 3,5% fees even on BTC.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, BM also removes some markets to pros, like Tennis Challenger/ITF ...
And no, I never used someone's else account.
So answer to OP's question is Pinnacle only.Last edited by Limited; 01-12-21, 08:42 AM.Comment -
BM removes Challenger and some Table Tennis markets but leaves up about a million other small and very beatable markets for "non-recreational". That's your criteria for not allowing pros? Give me a break
And there's a completely incorrect "confirmation" of bad information that I see too often here.Comment -
If I could post a picture here I would show you.
There I changed my avatar. That is a $10 ml parlay in college basketball.
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I Never said that BM doesn't allow pros. Learn to read. And no, it is not only about ITF, but if you don't see the value in say Challenger, then you don't know much.BM removes Challenger and some Table Tennis markets but leaves up about a million other small and very beatable markets for "non-recreational". That's your criteria for not allowing pros? Give me a breakLast edited by Limited; 01-12-21, 11:15 AM.Comment -
This is true, happened to me too. Also BOL limits.Comment -
But on the other hand to be clear BM is still one of the best bookies out there. It is safe and they don't limit individual accounts.Comment -
Guess point is that there are books that will allow winners or 'pros' to continue betting either indefinitely or ultimately with some kind of limiting in place that at least allows a half decent stake. These have been mentioned already and other than exchanges or some asian books that is about itComment -
Stake (crypto book) allows sharps to play, your limit may be reduced if you are constantly beating the market on linesComment -
Bottom line for me is that I love Bookmaker and I have played there over 20 years. It is incorrect to think that they don't attempt to limit or reduce the edge that certain players have. I respect and honor that right. I am certain that what is limited or blocked varies by player. To me some of it makes no sense. For instance I cannot bet teasers or moneyline parlays. I have no idea why. Also I am in no way a PRO.Comment -
And will they request KYC once you have a collar and you want to payout? I mean, without KYC limiting individual accounts makes no sense.Stake (crypto book) allows sharps to play, your limit may be reduced if you are constantly beating the market on linesComment -
I am not allowed to bet parlays at all there. Makes no difference to a professional, which is what this thread is directed at
Of course there's value in Challenger and Table Tennis. They also have half limits on non-recreational accounts for NBA sims. I just don't think banning or half-limiting a handful of inefficient markets rises to the level of them "not liking pros playing there" as you said. They still deal full limits on LOADS of inefficient markets and it seems to be a consensus that they do not cut limits in those or in major markets regardless of how good you areLast edited by HomeRun35; 01-12-21, 05:47 PM.Comment -
Well, like I said, BM is one of the best, but paying 350$ on every 10k WD including Bitcoin, that is not really pros friendly. Among other mention things. I could say more about ridiculous WD limits/per method, that I have in my account, but I will rather not share that public. Again, they are top bookmaker.Comment -
These threads never go anywhere because there's always some jamoke who comes in and claims to be limited at any book you can name and then complains about how when they went to withdraw the book not only limited them but didn't tickle their taint and offer them a free t-bone steak on top
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Only Pinnacle,
Bookmaker will block your access to certain sports like Tennis
And betonline will for sure limit your bets...Comment
