Skybook Adding a Condition to an Election Prop and Misgrading

ace7550 · 12-21-20, 05:17 PM

That makes no sense. They need to pay you.

Yes - Steelers win by 14+
No - Steelers win by 14+

If the Steelers lose the game it doesn't make it a push

vampire assassin · 12-21-20, 05:23 PM

Obvious a misgrade, given the odds. If the odds on No were -200, you might argue another interpretation. But at -1950, it's clear they meant a landslide win. They need to fix and pay you.

DontTailMe · 12-21-20, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by vampire assassin

Obvious a misgrade, given the odds. If the odds on No were -200, you might argue another interpretation. But at -1950, it's clear they meant a landslide win. They need to fix and pay you.

See, to me the odds are secondary. What matters most to me is what the line says in plain English. English is how we communicate intention with each other. If you intend your line to mean something other than what it says, then you need to use different and/or more words.

They also had this Yes/No two-way line listed for all possible D & R win margin ranges (e.g. YES/NO Dems win by 210-279) - the exact same format from Bookmaker.

acquavallo · 12-21-20, 09:22 PM

Take the push, you can still lose.

That bet is IF the gop wins, is it with 280+ or less.

7 states have sent Alternate delegations for Trump- you would lose if they get certified.

nyplayer33 · 12-21-20, 10:01 PM

Trump did win

jtoler · 12-21-20, 10:09 PM

it seems like a mistake in making that available I dont follow the stuff but winning by 280 electoral votes is kinda insane isnt it, like that was never gonna remotely happen right

DontTailMe · 12-21-20, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

it seems like a mistake in making that available I dont follow the stuff but winning by 280 electoral votes is kinda insane isnt it, like that was never gonna remotely happen right

It's not a mistake. Many books offered it and the odds were dumb because there was a lot of inexperienced MAGA money out there. In fact, it's pretty clear that Skybook copied these particular lines from Bookmaker. As I said earlier, Skybook's odds were actually WORSE than other books. I got -1000 at some places. PredictIt had this market too. Definitely not a mistake.

jtoler · 12-21-20, 10:46 PM

oh ok

ace7550 · 12-21-20, 11:31 PM

Did you file a complaint yet? It's total horseshit.

rangerz2478 · 12-22-20, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by acquavallo

Take the push, you can still lose.

That bet is IF the gop wins, is it with 280+ or less.

7 states have sent Alternate delegations for Trump- you would lose if they get certified.

So much absurdity in this post it gave me a headache.

rangerz2478 · 12-22-20, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

it seems like a mistake in making that available I dont follow the stuff but winning by 280 electoral votes is kinda insane isnt it, like that was never gonna remotely happen right

That's why it was -1950. The bet is a win and should be paid.

Optional · 12-22-20, 03:46 AM

Shoot in a complaint form and we can ask a manager to check this https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/

winkyyy · 12-22-20, 08:02 AM

Dont ever bet with skycrook again

bottom line.

jjgold · 12-22-20, 08:14 AM

Some of these lower level books try and get away with stuff

acquavallo · 12-22-20, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by rangerz2478

So much absurdity in this post it gave me a headache.

Can you discuss this like a real man instead of a sniffling snowflake?

acquavallo · 12-22-20, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

it seems like a mistake in making that available I dont follow the stuff but winning by 280 electoral votes is kinda insane isnt it, like that was never gonna remotely happen right

Originally posted by DontTailMe

It's not a mistake. Many books offered it and the odds were dumb because there was a lot of inexperienced MAGA money out there. In fact, it's pretty clear that Skybook copied these particular lines from Bookmaker. As I said earlier, Skybook's odds were actually WORSE than other books. I got -1000 at some places. PredictIt had this market too. Definitely not a mistake.

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Yep. Alternate & very extreme lines were offered. I wanted to take the biggest Trump winning margin offered, HOWEVER, as the win margin increased the odds offered DECREASED. So poor value, the books agreed \ had done their homework well. (Esp if you agree that without the widespread cheating Trump actually carried some ten other States (the 7 in dispute plus others not formally disputed like Minnesota, Virginia, NH, etc.)

And in addition to poor value (at bet time), there was the additional negative prospect of prolonged legal protest "by whoever lost" holding up bet settlement indefinitely. Esp. if contrarily, it was Biden protesting: even with Trump at say, 400 electoral votes- the biased media would've refused to call Trump President-elect until the actual swearing-in.

Bottom line re the final official Electoral count is two things, irregardless of one's political ideology, which is off-topic for THIS thread:

1. All the disputed states have the same reasons and evidence, so IIFFF one state is flipped, all will more than likely (or at least enough to flip the winner).
2. IIIIFFFFF SO, then how do they flip:
A. State(s) Vote totally voided = zero votes or redo election (latter highly unlikely this instance ). If 3 or more of the states in question suffer this, no one gets the necessary 270 votes and the vote guess to the US House.
B. State(s) Vote flipped to Trump.
A. Is unlikely- would be unconstitutional- but it's possible; and Trump wouldn't complain after ultimately winning in special House vote + Biden wouldn't be able to reverse the flip with any appeal.

B. Is likelier BUT not in the bag though- the Supremes could punt for fear of riots, in combination with- Congress the never-Trump Repubs + the China-bought Repubs (like McConnell for one) could side with the Dems. It would be unconstitutional and could technically be appealed to the Supremes (for disregarding States' Electoral delegations- the second groups sent each Assembly- but having already punted once before, those prospects would be dim.

Ehhh.

rangerz2478 · 12-23-20, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by acquavallo

Can you discuss this like a real man instead of a sniffling snowflake?

Yea, a sniffling snowflake who understands math. You don't seem to know any such thing.

Even IF your ludicrous nonsense 7 state thing happens, Trump would need 424 electoral voters to cover a -280 spread. Dumb has no political affiliation.

d2bets · 12-23-20, 09:15 AM

You are definitely correct.

RedApples · 03-09-21, 02:22 PM

What happened to OP? Hasn't posted in forever... he was every day.

DontTailMe · 03-31-21, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Shoot in a complaint form and we can ask a manager to check this https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/

Hello - I did submit a complaint form and haven't received a response. I've also replied directly to the confrimation email I received. Can someone please check on this for me?

DontTailMe · 04-23-21, 01:20 AM

For historical recordkeeping purposes, this issue has been resolved. Thank you SBR and Skybook.

Optional · 04-23-21, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

For historical recordkeeping purposes, this issue has been resolved. Thank you SBR and Skybook.

Good news and thanks for updating the thread

ace7550 · 04-23-21, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

For historical recordkeeping purposes, this issue has been resolved. Thank you SBR and Skybook.

When did they actually settle this for you? And they paid you right?

DontTailMe · 04-23-21, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by ace7550

When did they actually settle this for you? And they paid you right?

This week. Partly my fault though. I let it go on and contacted them a few more times to see if someone over there would see the light of day before submitting a complaint. It was taken care of pretty swiftly once that happened.

Yes, they credited my account with the expected win amount.