Cancelled bet at bet105!!

Optional · 10-31-20, 11:18 PM

As Anthony Hernandez is another fighter it was clearly a listing mistake. Not just a spelling error.

RedApples · 10-31-20, 11:57 PM

Just a spelling error. Wrote one thing while meaning to write another. Clearly bet should still stand after the fact. There's no question who the bet was on, and so long as the odds were accurate and not based on another fighter, there's literally zero reason for bets to be cancelled.

Since you don't know if it was cancelled before or after, you might want to find out. If it was before, you clearly have no case. If it was after, you have one.

I've been down this road a bunch of times. Had bets cancelled before, have had bets cancelled after, have had bets stand after. It's black and white.

Regardless you are going about this the wrong way.

Optional · 11-01-20, 12:02 AM

He has no case either way RedApples.

If the wrong team is listed it is ALWAYS a void market. No matter when it is discovered.

People who bet on the loser can rightly claim the listing was confusing.

That is the rule everywhere and what is considered fair industry practice.

RedApples · 11-01-20, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by Optional

He has no case either way RedApples.

If the wrong team is listed it is ALWAYS a void market. No matter when it is discovered.

People who bet on the loser can rightly claim the listing was confusing.

That is the rule everywhere and what is considered fair industry practice.

As stated. I've been here many times before. All Tennis and Table Tennis wagers. Maybe golf too actually? (edit)

Of course if it were a completely different team the market would be void. That would be impossible to claim that the bet wasn't completely wrong and erroneous.

This is the same scenario as a mis spell. Also for Football I have had team names with misspells, even the wrong team name. Granted the name wasn't the name of another 'fighter' or 'entrant', that is why I gave the tennis example of having been in the same exact situation. The book will often do exactly what happened here, by confusing a first name. It has always been action in my experience.

If you've experienced different, congrats. I'm just going on my 25 year daily betting history and having been in this situation many times.

BTW, since you're so positive, are you only holding that this is a void market because there is another fighter with the listed name? Otherwise, it would be action? Does it matter if they are in the same weight class? Where would the line be?

Optional · 11-01-20, 12:24 AM

I think you just like arguing the contrary to anything I say sometimes Apples.

Alexander Hernandez is one current fighter, and Anthony Hernandez is a different current fighter.

Totally different people.

But even if a completely different person was not listed, and it was "just a typo", if it could be confusing at all to bettors of either fighter then it is still a void by fair industry practice.

You constantly talk about how long you have been betting and know everything, but you consistently show that you do not understand some pretty basic rules.

And on a personal note... get the hell off my nuts. I have to work here, if you want to come at me daily, one of us wont be staying long term.

But lets see if anyone else thinks a wrong team listed is not always a void.

I personally think even newish bettors would mostly know this rule.

RedApples · 11-01-20, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by Optional

I think you just like arguing the contrary to anything I say sometimes Apples.

Alexander Hernandez is one current fighter, and Anthony Hernandez is a different current fighter.

Totally different people.

But even if a completely different person was not listed, and it was "just a typo", if it could be confusing at all to bettors of either fighter then it is still a void by fair industry practice.

Well thats something that you should get over, because its clearly in your head.

As stated I've been in this scenario many times before. I am going based on my history. If you have had other experience, that is fine and equally valid. I did not disagree with you, or argue on anything you've stated, merely giving my take based on experience. I don't know how or why you would confuse that with me disagreeing with you. Theres nothing to agree or disagree with. I'm not pontificating.

If it is clear as to who you would be intending to bet on, the bet stands. If its not, then it is void. For instance if the Dallas Cowboys are playing the Green Bay Packers, and the Washington Football Team was listed instead of the Cowboys, the market is no action. There's no way you could assume the team was correct. This has ALWAYS been what I've heard from the Sportsbook following this scenario. Usually its Eldque Hernandez instead of Enrique Hernandez or something. So long as the odds are correct and there would be no reasonable assumption that you were betting on the wrong player, it stands. AGAIN to be clear, this is ONLY MY EXPERIENCE and what I've heard from the book in the scenario every single time across the board. It's solely a books discretion to decide whether or not the error is gross enough, and for me it's always been on the side that it's not. This ONLY stands for AFTER the fact, before the fact I have many times over had the market cancelled, but have also had it stand and every time it stood.

Optional · 11-01-20, 01:25 AM

Ok, I'll reset my opinion that you seem to want to come at me and/or argue anything I say. But understand I am not here to enjoy never ending discussions about stuff. I'm usually busy and don't want to be called out to justify every word I say due to the time it takes. I'm not always right, but when it comes to interpreting book rules, and helping people get what they want from books, I probably will know what I am talking about most of the time.

But seriously, this particular OP asked a question. They are obviously frustrated and will be disappointed by the answer. A clear answer regarding their exact situation is what they need. Not us discussing what might happen if it was a typo instead of a wrong name.

Alfie White · 11-01-20, 01:45 AM

"Just a spelling error."

noyb · 11-01-20, 04:10 AM

In my experience small innocent spelling errors virtually always stand. Bets are not voided over a typo, in which it's very clear what the bet is on.

But a completely different and actually existing player who happens to have the same surname is always a void any time I've experienced it. Had it happen to me several times on a number of golf bets, had it happen to me on tennis, even had it happen to me with a bet on a player that had previously retired. Always try to check the first name.

Barrakuda · 11-01-20, 06:36 AM

This kind of thing happens on ~50% of KLPGA wagers.

Barrakuda · 11-01-20, 06:37 AM

Originally posted by FNC

I had several UFC parlays with Alexander Hernandez and he won beating Chris Gruetzemacher.

Apparently Bet105 had it spelled incorrectly as Anthony Hernandez though they had the opponent correct. They cancelled all bets.

I do not know if this was done before or after the fight happened but it is not cool with me!

Is this cancellation standard with a typo?

I'm curious: did they notify you it was cancelled, did you see it in your graded bets, or did it simply disappear?

FNC · 11-01-20, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by Barrakuda

I'm curious: did they notify you it was cancelled, did you see it in your graded bets, or did it simply disappear?

They did NOT notify me of an error.

mrpapageorgio · 11-01-20, 11:18 AM

Spelling error would Aleander where a letter is missing. They had a completely different name which also happens to be a different fighter with the same name. It's a void.

DontTailMe · 11-01-20, 03:13 PM

Jesus Christ. This is so obviously a valid void. I can't believe people are arguing. It's even in their rules.

Alfie White · 11-01-20, 04:00 PM

@OP, imagine if your bet lost, you would go HAM if they said "IT IS JUST A SPELLING ERROR LOL". It goes both ways, always keep that in mind.

Judge Crater · 11-09-20, 11:10 AM

Seems like it was made in good faith.

cristianbet · 11-10-20, 05:23 AM

but did they really void the loser bets on Chris Gruetzemacher?

DontTailMe · 11-10-20, 05:52 PM

I placed several election parlays at Bet105. They voided them after the election results were known. Clown show.

If they don't want to accept parlays on the election, that's completely understandable. But if they're going to wait until AFTER the election, they should at least pay me out at reduced odds or something. Otherwise, it's a free roll for them. All of my parlays won.

Mugsy777 · 11-10-20, 05:59 PM

Optional is of course correct ,a good good guy

Shifty · 11-10-20, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

I placed several election parlays at Bet105. They voided them after the election results were known. Clown show.

If they don't want to accept parlays on the election, that's completely understandable. But if they're going to wait until AFTER the election, they should at least pay me out at reduced odds or something. Otherwise, it's a free roll for them. All of my parlays won.

Did you paraly states to the overall election? In that case they should AT LEAST payout a straight bet on the highest priced leg. Freerolling is not cool.

Optional · 11-11-20, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

I placed several election parlays at Bet105. They voided them after the election results were known. Clown show.

If they don't want to accept parlays on the election, that's completely understandable. But if they're going to wait until AFTER the election, they should at least pay me out at reduced odds or something. Otherwise, it's a free roll for them. All of my parlays won.

What was the reasoning?

If you think it was a wrong call, shoot in a complaint form.

DontTailMe · 11-11-20, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Optional

What was the reasoning?

If you think it was a wrong call, shoot in a complaint form.

They were pop up messages and I didn't screen grab them. But it didn't provide any more detail than something like "parlay not allowed for selections". But they accepted them and then cancelled after the election. All would-be wins.