5Dimes US Market Exit: Update

**RoyBacon** · 09-13-20, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by RedApples

It's not dumb, its thievery. Yes they would profit if they graded all of these markets at the current fair value. But that pays a lot less money than simply refunding all the open bets. Because their real profit on the market is in pocketing the graded losers, not paying out prorated amounts for the 'winners 'now.

Possibly. Depends on their exposure but possibly not.

Remember, in theory ALL of these markets have a large vig favoring 5D. If they all settled naturally 5D profits. We agree?

So in the middle of the market 5D would have also built equity(a profit). We still agree?

It's also possible 5D losses money settling these markets in this absurdly idiotic way.

It eliminates the theory they will return to the legal market at some time. Regulators would be crazy to approve a license after this stiff job.

**ABEHONEST** · 09-13-20, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by RoyBacon

Possibly. Depends on their exposure but possibly not.

Remember, in theory ALL of these markets have a large vig favoring 5D. If they all settled naturally 5D profits. We agree?

So in the middle of the market 5D would have also built equity(a profit). We still agree?

It's also possible 5D losses money settling these markets in this absurdly idiotic way.

It eliminates the theory they will return to the legal market at some time. Regulators would be crazy to approve a license after this stiff job.

If these "Regulators," have the power to reject their license, would they not also have the power to squeeze Dimes hard enough to force/make them to pay their loyal departing clients, in a fair and just manner?

**Doug tushyterror** · 09-13-20, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by dmm

Thanks for the update! This doesn't affect me as I'm not in the US, but as a 5Dimes customer, I want them to do the right thing. Paying out futures at fair market value definitely seems like the right thing to do.

How exactly is that the "right thing to do". So if somebody took BOS at +600 to win the East before the shutdown in Mar.(ex. 1K to win 6K) since they're -135 to beat MIA so instead of winning 6K that gets chopped down to $740. Based on 5Crimes latest shady if not criminal practices the only fair thing to do would be to try get refunded as many futures as possible & even then call your bank and charge back every recent cc deposit.

**nyplayer33** · 09-13-20, 01:34 PM

Vegas down 3 to 1..but i het your point. Assuming, that ticket is real

**BuckyOne** · 09-13-20, 04:48 PM

I am calling BS on this story about leaving the US to go legit. They must have lost their tukus in the US after Tony's demise.

This is a bankruptcy of sorts. Who establishes a claims administrator for a voluntary exit from the business.

They lied to us for at least a year after Tony's mishap and this is a lie to us now.

**DontTailMe** · 09-14-20, 12:11 AM

Originally posted by SBR Forum

Hi RedApples,

Thank you for your post. The expectation is this gets resolved. There's still time and a lot going on behind the scenes. This update was to let readers know we're in the midst of a dialogue with 5Dimes. At this point going full-court press on them is premature but rest assured we are in full agreement, because yeah, you're absolutely right, the reason the open bets must be honored or paid out at fair market value is to avoid a freeroll like you're describing. And really, even if hypothetically there were zero losses booked, you still can't cancel bets.

I really appreciate whatever work SBR might be doing behind the scenes to try to make things right for players. I'm getting screwed 6 ways to Sunday between future bets which have accumulated equity, plus pending parlays with WINNING legs but open/pending future legs which they claim will only be refunded.

However, I thought you might be interested in an update... It appears that 5Dimes has gone ahead and REFUNDED all future singles past 9/25, even for accounts WHICH DID NOT REQUEST REFUNDS! It happened to me, and I've confirmed it with a few of my acquaintances. Of course, they did no such thing with future parlay legs.

Actually, they didn't refund ALL future singes. They kept ones open which have a possibility of losing before 9/25. Looks like they're still looking to get some of that freeroll action. By the way, when they refund these wagers, there is no longer any record of the original wager anywhere in the player's account - only a transaction which says something like "refund for wager 1234567890". How are they going to make this right for anyone if they've already gone ahead and taken such action? What a mess.

PS: You gotta love it when they refund a YEAR OLD wager of "Next US President will be a man (vs. woman)". When I placed it, the wager was roughly 50/50. Now it's like 99.99% but they get to decide to refund it instead. Nice work 5Dimes!

**Shwag87** · 09-14-20, 12:46 AM

I'm in a LOSE LOSE situation!!
5 Dimes won't honor my bet on LA Clippers to win the finals. Nor will they refund me. Better yet they are telling me that game 7 between Clips and Nuggets now somehow matters if the Clippers lose. HOW DOES THIS MATTER IF THEY WON'T PAY ME IF I WIN. I can only lose? This is the biggest BS I have ever heard!!!!

**ace7550** · 09-14-20, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

PS: You gotta love it when they refund a YEAR OLD wager of "Next US President will be a man (vs. woman)". When I placed it, the wager was roughly 50/50. Now it's like 99.99% but they get to decide to refund it instead. Nice work 5Dimes!

Wow that sucks. Totally unethical to be canceling wagers that are certain winners.

**Shwag87** · 09-14-20, 12:52 AM

I'm getting screwed beyond belief myself. 5 dimes won't honor my NBA futures bet. The said they want me to wait till the Clippers series is over with Denver. Yet, they won't pay me if the Clippers win the title. SBR please do something!! This is ridiculous!!

**rangerz2478** · 09-14-20, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by Shwag87

I'm in a LOSE LOSE situation!!
5 Dimes won't honor my bet on LA Clippers to win the finals. Nor will they refund me. Better yet they are telling me that game 7 between Clips and Nuggets now somehow matters if the Clippers lose. HOW DOES THIS MATTER IF THEY WON'T PAY ME IF I WIN. I can only lose? This is the biggest BS I have ever heard!!!!

I think its cause its a prop on clippers vs field and if they lose game 7, itll settle before sept 23. Either way, i feel awful for those with futures equity. Really disgusting.

**Shwag87** · 09-14-20, 12:56 AM

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5 dimes attempt to rip me off transcript

Welcome to LiveChat

Alfred 00:39

Welcome to the 5Dimes Group Live Chat. Keep in mind the account & 4-digit PIN combination must be provided if the information you are requesting is specific to your account only.

Visitor 23:31

5 Dimes apparently doesn't seem to want to honor my futures bet with the LA Clippers to win the championship. Apparently (according to blogs I've read) you are allowing bets to be transfereed to another book?

Is anyone there?

Alfred 23:34

Greetings, my name is Alfred from the Wagering Issues Department, I will be glad to assist you today.

Unfortunately that is not an option

Visitor 23:35

What are my options?

Alfred 23:36

once the bet is refunded then you will need to make a payout

Visitor 23:37

These dishonest practices are less than to be desired. So 5 Dimes was never going to pay me if LA Clippers won?

Alfred 23:37

if the bet can be decided before 9/21/2020 and is a win you will get paid whatever you win

Visitor 23:41

Well it obviously can't. Also, my bet on the Utah Jazz was never going to be paid if I won that one either. As well my bet on the Toronto Raptors. Sounds like you should've refunded those bets too. But wait, that wouldn't be in your favor... So not only are you not honoring this bet but you feel you should be able to call the Jazz and Raptors bet a loss also. Even though you wouldn't of paid me if they one. How is this integrity or ethics?

So please give me the reasoning to why you think the Toronto and Utah futures bets should've been graded as a loss since you wouldn't honor a win there either?

Also, bloggers have said that you did allow bets to be transferred to a 3rd party book. So now 5 dimes won't do that either?

Visitor 23:46

So this book basically has zero ethics.

Can I please get a reply to all my inquiries.

Alfred 23:49

this is an upper management decision sir, and yes we do not offer books to books transfers

Visitor 23:50

Ok, then please explain why you took my money from utah and toronto? If you weren't going to pay than refund it.

How does 5 dimes justify trying to have it both ways?

If 5 dimes wasn't going to pay me then why would that be labeled as a loss?

Visitor 23:56

hello?

This is unprofessional customer svc

Visitor 00:02

no response for 22 mins

Alfred 00:04

the bets that had no change to win as per upper management were graded as a loss

Visitor 00:07

But you weren't going to pay anyway!

So the bets that have a chance to win won't be honered.

Ok, I would like to have this conversation sent to my email.

Alfred 00:12

on the upper left corner from this chat you will have 3 dots.

you just need to click there and click the option that says send transcript

Visitor 00:15

So let me just state this: If I have this pending bet on the Clippers, and they somehow lose, then 5 dimes feels that should be graded as a loss?

When 5 dimes won't pay me when if they win? Hmmm, that sounds ethical.

Alfred 00:23

That is an upper management decision sir. everything that can be decided before 9/21/2020 will still pending anything else refunded

Visitor 00:24

No, this will not be decided. This bet needs to be labeled as cancelled. As do the other 2 futures bets i made.

Alfred 00:30

as I mentioned sir, It is an upper management decision.

Visitor 00:31

So you can't cancel this ongoing bet with the Clippers?

Let me guess? Upper management isn't available to talk to?

Visitor 00:40

Sounds pretty fortunate for 'Upper Management'

Alfred 00:43

just a moment

I will transfer you to my manager

You have been transferred to: Percy.

Percy 00:44

Welcome to 5Dimes customer service!This is Percy. I'm the Casino Manager. How may I assist you today?

Visitor 00:48

I am not ok with 5 dimes telling me they won't honor my bet and then still claiming my other bets as a loss. Even though you wouldn't of paid me if they won

I have seen on sbr blogs that 5 dimes allowed bets to transfer to another book. Yet, now i here that can't be done now either.

So 5 dimes calls my other futures bets a loss even though you wouldn't of paid I did win. Please don't use this September whatever deadline as an excuse.

wouldn't of paid if i didn't win

Sorry, I meant 5 dimes wouldn't of paid me if I didn't win.

It's late. I meant you wouldn't of paid me if I won. Yet, 5 dimes still calls it a loss.

Visitor 00:55

Also, since you won't honor my bet with the Clippers then why list it as a pending bet. Wait, because there is a chance that the Clippers could be eliminated and 5 dimes thinks they have a right to potentially call that a loss. Even though you won't pay if I win.

Percy 00:55

Let me check your wagers\

The ones that loss already there's nothing to do about it .

Visitor 00:58

I've been a loyal customer for a decently long time. I feel slighted to say the least. Why wasn't I contacted before the NBA reset even started? I could of been refunded and found lines that were comparable.

Percy 00:58

We always paid and even in this situation we are paying everybody out.

We had no idea that this was going to happen.

Visitor 00:59

Were you going to pay if I won the graded bets? The answer is no.

Percy 00:59

Sure, but due to the circumstances is not possible

We can't pay any US customer after the 25th

so all bets settled after that date can't be paid

Visitor 01:01

The only moderately fair adjustment here is that I am refunded the Denver bet and the Toronto bet to win the finals as well as the Clippers

Percy 01:01

Toronto is eliminated already .

Visitor 01:02

Was 5 dimes going to pay me if they won?

Percy 01:02

We will need to wait on that series to be over to grade the rest

Visitor 01:03

How can you grade a bet that you won't pay if they win!

Percy 01:03

You are complaining now that the tied the series becaused you expected those to be winners today.

Visitor 01:04

Are you going to pay if the Clippers win the title?

Percy 01:04

Listen I will cancel your Clippers bets

will not

Visitor 01:05

Look the Denver bet was like $263 and the toronto bet was $50. This is THE LEAST you can do.

Percy 01:05

If they are eliminated the had no chances so your bet lost

That's how we dealing with this and it's how it will proceed

Visitor 01:06

I want to be paid via BC ASAP please. This way I can rebet with another book.

And yes, you are right I'm complaining. It's because 5 dimes isn't honoring a (all bets are final) wager.

Percy 01:08

You need to wait for this series to be over

after that everything will be graded

Visitor 01:09

Are you going to pay id the Clippers win the finals? No, you won't.

Percy 01:10

That's how it's going to be. After this series is over.

Visitor 01:10

So please explain why I should have to wait since you won't be paying if they win?

Percy 01:10

Is there anything else I can assist you with?

Visitor 01:11

Yes, you can refund ALL of my future bets that you wouldn't of honered if I won to begin with

Percy 01:13

unfortunately that's not an option in this case

Visitor 01:14

Answer the question please. Will you be paying me if the Clippers win the NBA championship?

Would you of paid if the Raptors or the Nuggets won the Championship?

Percy 01:15

All championship wagers will be graded at the end of this series. I am very sorry but that's the company decision.

Is there anything else I can assist you with?

I said will not cancel.

Visitor 01:17

You just said you would cancel the Clippers.

Percy 01:17

I said will not cancel.

Visitor 01:19

So you refuse to say that you won't cancel a bet that you won't payout if I win? According to you the Finals can't be graded due to a timeline. Then why aren't I being refunded immediately?

Percy 01:19

I already what's the company decision in regards to these wagers.

already told you-

Visitor 01:20

I was already told I would be refunded at the very least!!

Percy 01:21

That's the decision of the company and it's final.

Visitor 01:21

Then just state that you won't be paying if the Clippers win the championship.

Percy 01:21

I already told you how that wager is going to be graded.

I am not going to repeat myself again.

Is there anything else I can assist you with?

Visitor 01:22

Is there any way for me to win this wager?

Percy 01:22

Have a good night !

Visitor 01:23

You can't say no can you?

Percy 01:23

I already told you how that wager is going to be graded.

Visitor 01:24

No really? You didn't.

Percy 01:24

Have a good evening!

Visitor 01:25

So all I can do is lose. How ethical....

Percy 01:26

Is there anything else I can assist you with?

Visitor 01:27

Yeah, you can cancel the bet and refund my money since there is no possible way for me to win

Percy 01:27

I already said no to that.

That decision is final.

Visitor 01:27

And who is your manager?

Percy 01:28

I'm the highest you get to deal with this.

I am the manager. My boss don't deal with customers.

Visitor 01:29

So I can't win in any way? All I can do is lose? Yet, 5 dimes thinks this is fair? Yet, if I do win, 5 dimes still won't pay.

Percy 01:30

fair or not that's the company decision under these circumstances

Visitor 01:30

These are 5 dimes circumstances. Not mine.

Percy 01:30

You're right.

We decide how to proceed.

It's our company

Visitor 01:31

Look, if you are in charge, do the right thing.

Percy 01:31

I already told you how those wagers will be graded.

That's the only option here.

I will not continue with this conversation as we are just going in circles here.

Visitor 01:32

Customer svc has clearly stated that anything after Sept 21st or 25th won't be graded anyway.

Percy 01:32

if you don't have any other question I will just finish this chat

Visitor 01:33

Are you going to pay if I win. YES or NO

whether or not it's graded has nothing to do with it.

Percy 01:34

No sir. We can't. That's why we are refunding most wagers. For championship you need to wait for this round to be over .

Visitor 01:34

But, you won't pay me if I win. So what's the issue on refunding?

Percy 01:34

Im sorry but that's our company's decision.

Visitor 01:35

I was already told that I would be refunded at the very least via phone. I am chatting in the attempt to be professional.

C

Percy 01:36

Refunds depends on the line but at this point you should know when your bet will be refunded.

Visitor 01:37

Come to think of it. I believe you were the guy I talked to.

Read

Percy 01:37

I already answered you. This conversation is over.

Have a good one !

Percy 01:38

BYE

**Shwag87** · 09-14-20, 01:04 AM

There is no time for me! 5 Dimes refuses to settle my futures in progress bet. If Clips lose game 7 vs Nuggets I'm screwed. They are slow rolling me. They won't refund my bet. They expect me to wait and see if I lose. Yet, they made it clear that they won't pay me if i win!!!

**Shwag87** · 09-14-20, 01:07 AM

Better yet, you gotta love it when they won't even refund your wager and they want to wait to see if you lose and won't pay if you win.

**Shwag87** · 09-14-20, 01:20 AM

If you're bet can lose before September 21st they take your money still and won't pay you if you win.

Originally posted by SBR Forum

5Dimes US Market Exit: Update

5Dimes announced Monday that they are exiting the US market. Bets from US players will no longer be accepted as of September 21. Players have until September 25 to request their balances. Funds not requested by this date will be managed by a third-party claims administrator.

What is currently in dispute is how 5Dimes has opted to handle futures bets that would settle after their September 25 deadline. 5Dimes’ position is that these bets will be refunded after players contact them.

Numerous complaints have been shared on SBR Forum and Twitter regarding this decision. Basic bookmaking precedent is that accepted bets must be honored. When sportsbooks have exited countries in the past, player bets have been honored. The only alternative to settling bets normally is to pay them at fair market value.

Discussions with 5Dimes continue on how they are handling these futures bets. Updates will be posted as they become available

**Shwag87** · 09-14-20, 01:41 AM

5 Dimes has ZERO ethical practices.

5 Dimes won't refund my bet at all. They are trying to wait and see if Clippers lose game 7 to tell me that I lost. Yet, they won't pay me if I win. So it's NOT TRUE that they are refunding customers wagers. Since my bet is on the Clippers to win the finals, they are trying to wait and see if I lose. TOTAL BS!!!!! They won't pay me if I win but they want to see if I lose (so they can screw me.)

Originally posted by SBR Forum

5Dimes US Market Exit: Update

5Dimes announced Monday that they are exiting the US market. Bets from US players will no longer be accepted as of September 21. Players have until September 25 to request their balances. Funds not requested by this date will be managed by a third-party claims administrator.

What is currently in dispute is how 5Dimes has opted to handle futures bets that would settle after their September 25 deadline. 5Dimes’ position is that these bets will be refunded after players contact them.

Numerous complaints have been shared on SBR Forum and Twitter regarding this decision. Basic bookmaking precedent is that accepted bets must be honored. When sportsbooks have exited countries in the past, player bets have been honored. The only alternative to settling bets normally is to pay them at fair market value.

Discussions with 5Dimes continue on how they are handling these futures bets. Updates will be posted as they become available

**DontTailMe** · 09-14-20, 02:43 AM

Originally posted by Shwag87

5 Dimes won't refund my bet at all. They are trying to wait and see if Clippers lose game 7 to tell me that I lost. Yet, they won't pay me if I win. So it's NOT TRUE that they are refunding customers wagers. Since my bet is on the Clippers to win the finals, they are trying to wait and see if I lose. TOTAL BS!!!!! They won't pay me if I win but they want to see if I lose (so they can screw me.)

Dude. I totally feel for you. A lot of us are in the same boat.

But you really only need to post about the issue once or twice to get your point across, not 20 times in a row.

**Combato** · 09-14-20, 06:20 AM

Frankly, I will be surprised if ANY of us get paid from 5Dimes. Cashing money from 5D with BTC has always been much more difficult than other books. No reason to think this will be any different. I have been waiting now for 5 days for a straight BTC cash out with NO pending wagers and still nothing.

I hope I am wrong but don't be surprised if ALL of us ending up kissing our $$ goodbye and hoping that US based betting options become more readily available very soon ( as in all 50 states)

**milwaukee mike** · 09-14-20, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by Shwag87

Better yet, you gotta love it when they won't even refund your wager and they want to wait to see if you lose and won't pay if you win.

that is the frustrating part

the nba bets are building more value with no chance of winning (unless possibly the ecf is a sweep)

i haven't even asked them to cancel anything (yet) because i think they will sit on them anyway... they cancelled all my nfl futures without me asking

**Combato** · 09-14-20, 06:28 AM

Bucky One is absolutely correct. This is a disguised bankruptcy but done in a very obvious way. "Going to the USA" is just part of the bullshit narrative to keep us all satisfied until after Sept 25.

This is prime evidence for minimizing your $$$ at any offshore book.

**Indeep** · 09-14-20, 06:47 AM

Ok, so 5d came through with my BTC payout. It took approximately 128 hours start to finish. I did take the advice of another member and called in for the phone verification between the first and second email, and this seemed to speed things up quite a bit, as everything took place within an 8 hour period yesterday. I really don't have any complaints with 5d over the years, I always eventually received my funds. Good luck to all.

**pologq** · 09-14-20, 07:55 AM

alfred looking like his soul is dead already

**ABEHONEST** · 09-14-20, 08:29 AM

How about this pressurised situation and up the rear shaft?

I was just confirmed about what must be done with my 97 open parlays?
I must fill them out in this very short time space--we're talking 2 teamers, 3 teamers, 4 teamers, 5 teamers, 6 teamers, 7 teamers, 8 teamers. Many needing 1 to 5 picks. You get the picture.

This unbelievable debacle will have destroyed the offshore myth of these Books being the best and most reliable.
Is this also not a "possible" Black Eye for SBR?

Now, these parlays,of course ,must be filled in this little time space I am gven, and of course, I must pick them by, what, Sept. 30th in order to be paid for any hits?

Please, never again let me hear of this Book ever coming back to take wagers? I didn't care where their potential clients will come from, they stink to high heaven and deserve the same fate they are dumping on their thousands of clients.

**milwaukee mike** · 09-14-20, 08:59 AM

abe you better make those bets before the 21st, after that you won't be able to

**ABEHONEST** · 09-14-20, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by milwaukee mike

abe you better make those bets before the 21st, after that you won't be able to

Thanks.
Funny, now I am hearing that those 90 some odd parlays WILL be refunded if not filled by Sept. 21?
Now I do not what the true story is?

**ABEHONEST** · 09-14-20, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by ABEHONEST

Thanks.
Funny, now I am hearing that those 90 some odd parlays WILL be refunded if not filled by Sept. 21?
Now I do not what the true story is?

Now, this update. Rather than simply calling these many opens as canceled and refundable, now the word is...we take your $4800 worth of parlays if they are not filled by Sept.21. They say: "You have 1 week to cram these fill'ins in, or we take your money."
Maybe I can work day and night and cram some winners in and avoid any losers? Right.

Run that through your, hopefully, logical mind?

**PharaohUB** · 09-14-20, 11:33 AM

This is crazy and one of the reasons I hate playing futures at unregulated books. You are paying juice on your risk already plus risking that the book stays solvent. Other offshore books must be pissed as this will undoubtedly incentivize those who can - to use regulated US books especially for futures.

**DontTailMe** · 09-14-20, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by ABEHONEST

How about this pressurised situation and up the rear shaft?

I was just confirmed about what must be done with my 97 open parlays?
I must fill them out in this very short time space--we're talking 2 teamers, 3 teamers, 4 teamers, 5 teamers, 6 teamers, 7 teamers, 8 teamers. Many needing 1 to 5 picks. You get the picture.

This unbelievable debacle will have destroyed the offshore myth of these Books being the best and most reliable.
Is this also not a "possible" Black Eye for SBR?

Now, these parlays,of course ,must be filled in this little time space I am gven, and of course, I must pick them by, what, Sept. 30th in order to be paid for any hits?

Please, never again let me hear of this Book ever coming back to take wagers? I didn't care where their potential clients will come from, they stink to high heaven and deserve the same fate they are dumping on their thousands of clients.

Yes, I'm in the same boat. I have over $5,000 in profits on graded legs in open parlays. It's simply not feasible for me to fill all of the open slots because I created open parlays with many open legs, assuming that I had a long time to fill them.

I'm just not filling them because I don't want to be forced to add games which I don't have high confidence in...and probably end up losing most if not all of them. Also, I have a full time job and don't have time to do this on short notice. I'd rather take my chances on 5Dimes coming around to a more ethical standpoint or just take a refund if worse comes to worst. Their stance is sickening.

**ABEHONEST** · 09-14-20, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

Yes, I'm in the same boat. I have over $5,000 in profits on graded legs in open parlays. It's simply not feasible for me to fill all of the open slots because I created open parlays with many open legs, assuming that I had a long time to fill them.

I'm just not filling them because I don't want to be forced to add games which I don't have high confidence in...and probably end up losing most if not all of them. Also, I have a full time job and don't have time to do this on short notice. I'd rather take my chances on 5Dimes coming around to a more ethical standpoint or just take a refund if worse comes to worst. Their stance is sickening.

Good luck.
It seems, the powers of wagering decisions, must all stick together so they can rake in the most profitable manner, by twisting your parlay legs--no pun because this isn't funny--by forcing you to play roulette. Maybe one or two of those fill'ins will come through?
Well, do we have another choice not "go for it?"

Join my club if this scenario fits you already?
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**ABEHONEST** · 09-14-20, 07:42 PM

Here's another cutie I just ran into. Is this for real?

The selection 152 Clemson* can not be used for this Open Parlay because it exceeds the wager limit for this selection. Please make a different selection.
Wager

11/28/2020 12:00PM Clemson total wins over 11½ -125 vs Clemson total wins under 11½
11/3/2020 8:00AM Kamala Harris is Democratic VP Nominee -105 vs Field wins Democratic VP Nomination
11/3/2020 8:00AM Republican wins Presidential Election +110 vs Democrat wins Presidential Election
OPEN

** So this says, I cannot use Clemson with another winner., Kamala,...duh, two will be scratched anyway so I would only have a 2-teamer paying, what, $300? profit?
Another headache.

**DontTailMe** · 09-14-20, 08:08 PM

Hey Laura, pay out on your current commitments first. Then we can talk.

**Tbe123123** · 09-14-20, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

Hey Laura, pay out on your current commitments first. Then we can talk.

Exactly.

Their other statement was even more pathetic. "Oh, we are so surprised that people are angry that we are screwing you over and freerolling people. Nobody would ever be upset about that theft!"

**DontTailMe** · 09-14-20, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Tbe123123

Exactly.

Their other statement was even more pathetic. "Oh, we are so surprised that people are angry that we are screwing you over and freerolling people. Nobody would ever be upset about that theft!"

They're trying to shift the conversation. No one cares why they're leaving. Everyone just wants to be paid fairly...but they don't have a good answer to that one.

**BuckyOne** · 09-14-20, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

Yes, I'm in the same boat. I have over $5,000 in profits on graded legs in open parlays. It's simply not feasible for me to fill all of the open slots because I created open parlays with many open legs, assuming that I had a long time to fill them.

I'm just not filling them because I don't want to be forced to add games which I don't have high confidence in...and probably end up losing most if not all of them. Also, I have a full time job and don't have time to do this on short notice. I'd rather take my chances on 5Dimes coming around to a more ethical standpoint or just take a refund if worse comes to worst. Their stance is sickening.

Guys, go give it your best shot. You do not have time to negotiate. They are not going to come around. There will be no refund.

**ABEHONEST** · 09-14-20, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by ABEHONEST

Good luck.
It seems, the powers of wagering decisions, must all stick together so they can rake in the most profitable manner, by twisting your parlay legs--no pun because this isn't funny--by forcing you to play roulette. Maybe one or two of those fill'ins will come through?
Well, do we have another choice not "go for it?"

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Okay, okay
Forget anything I stated on my last 3 posts above.
The game has changed and has changed for the better, and with the manner it should have been from the get-go.
I just heard from Maryanne, she says...no pressure to fill out any parlays needing pick's to be filled. If you do not fill them out, they will be, either, refunded completely--your original wagers, or the other--pay you for any winner or winners within your other individual parlays.

I cannot further complain, well, only that I had big, confident plans for my open parlays that were still open.
Now, I have lost that desire. I love college baskets and they have yet to post them on 5D. I was going to use college baskets for a bunch of pick's, so that's history now.

If you find this post too wordy, I agree and I will pay each complainer 1 point.

Whew, I hate how this went down but at least I will have some extra bucks to blow, maybe I'll win, on college baskets.

**DontTailMe** · 09-14-20, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by BuckyOne

Guys, go give it your best shot. You do not have time to negotiate. They are not going to come around. There will be no refund.

No, you don't understand (because I forgot to mention). ALL of my parlays have at least one post-9/25 pending future leg. Most of them are election day grades. Under their current policy exactly NONE of these parlays can possibly pay out. Something needs to give or I get screwed. They're giving me no options.