5dimes voids wager 6 weeks later to avoid payout

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  • joeyknish22
    SBR Rookie
    • 05-14-18
    • 23

    #1
    5dimes voids wager 6 weeks later to avoid payout
    Edit by SBR: SBR has asked your friend for more information and will be in touch with 5Dimes for their position on this.

    Have a friend of mine who sent me this today. He requested a payout from 5dimes this week, instead of receiving it, they went back and cancelled a wager of his from March 7th. Gave no legitimate reasoning, just sent him the language 5dimes management reserves the right to void wagers at any time. It was on a live bet from 6 weeks ago.
  • chalkman777
    SBR Hustler
    • 09-01-15
    • 96

    #2
    how much they screw him for? place is beat after tony passed. stay away man
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    • lonegambler23
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-22-16
      • 9760

      #3
      idk i just got paid out 2500 no problem
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      • pablo222
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-03-19
        • 8858

        #4
        He should fill out a complaint form.

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        • dark star
          SBR MVP
          • 01-04-09
          • 3900

          #5
          Typical Tony
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          • racing_is_fun
            SBR High Roller
            • 01-26-20
            • 239

            #6
            5dimes blows. They voided a bet of mine that was from like March 7 today. 6 weeks after it had been already graded a winner, they decided to take it away??? I've never seen this ever. Probably the biggest joke sportsbook there is.
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 61508

              #7
              Originally posted by racing_is_fun
              5dimes blows. They voided a bet of mine that was from like March 7 today. 6 weeks after it had been already graded a winner, they decided to take it away??? I've never seen this ever. Probably the biggest joke sportsbook there is.
              That's very late.

              What bet? And what reason did they give?
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              • pimike
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 03-23-08
                • 37139

                #8
                If true this is extremely concerning.
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                • joeyknish22
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 05-14-18
                  • 23

                  #9
                  I submitted the form with details, ticket numbers, etc. I have the screenshot (just can't figure out how to post a screenshot here lol). It was a live bet on a NCAA game. The reason they gave was the company line of "line error, management reserves the right to void wagers at any time". But it did not look like an error to me, (it was a money line bet on a team that was trailing in the 2H) and we're talking about a live bet from 6 weeks ago.

                  Originally posted by Optional
                  That's very late.

                  What bet? And what reason did they give?
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                  • racing_is_fun
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 01-26-20
                    • 239

                    #10
                    Saw my message was moved to this thread so thanks whoever did that.

                    I went ahead and submitted a complaint too.
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                    • DontTailMe
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-24-19
                      • 2897

                      #11
                      Originally posted by joeyknish22
                      I submitted the form with details, ticket numbers, etc. I have the screenshot (just can't figure out how to post a screenshot here lol). It was a live bet on a NCAA game. The reason they gave was the company line of "line error, management reserves the right to void wagers at any time". But it did not look like an error to me, (it was a money line bet on a team that was trailing in the 2H) and we're talking about a live bet from 6 weeks ago.
                      Just post the screenshot to a hosting site like imgbb or something and then post the img link here. Would be helpful to see what the actual bets were.
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 61508

                        #12
                        Originally posted by joeyknish22
                        I submitted the form with details, ticket numbers, etc. I have the screenshot (just can't figure out how to post a screenshot here lol). It was a live bet on a NCAA game. The reason they gave was the company line of "line error, management reserves the right to void wagers at any time". But it did not look like an error to me, (it was a money line bet on a team that was trailing in the 2H) and we're talking about a live bet from 6 weeks ago.
                        Please do not submit complaint forms for other people's accounts. If that is what you did?

                        Originally posted by racing_is_fun
                        Saw my message was moved to this thread so thanks whoever did that.

                        I went ahead and submitted a complaint too.
                        Cool.

                        What did they tell you the problem was with the bet?

                        Something unusual?
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                        • racing_is_fun
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 01-26-20
                          • 239

                          #13
                          I'll call them or chat them later today but it just says "Risk Refund" under the description. I bet a women's wncaa game live. They were taking decent limits ($500 max bets) which was really good for that sport and the bets I made weren't bad lines. It was 6 weeks ago so I'd have to go back and review the game to be sure, but they were either losing or it was close to tied for the 2h but they were blowing out the team and wasn't a slam dunk the bet would win anyway. I just don't understand why they are now voiding it. Not like there's new info about the game. 6 weeks is unheard of and I'm pretty convinced this wasn't a bad line.

                          My question to 5d is what was the correct line if they are saying it's bad? Why wouldn't they regrade at that? They took a freeroll otherwise.
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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 61508

                            #14
                            Originally posted by racing_is_fun
                            I'll call them or chat them later today but it just says "Risk Refund" under the description. I bet a women's wncaa game live. They were taking decent limits ($500 max bets) which was really good for that sport and the bets I made weren't bad lines. It was 6 weeks ago so I'd have to go back and review the game to be sure, but they were either losing or it was close to tied for the 2h but they were blowing out the team and wasn't a slam dunk the bet would win anyway. I just don't understand why they are now voiding it. Not like there's new info about the game. 6 weeks is unheard of and I'm pretty convinced this wasn't a bad line.

                            My question to 5d is what was the correct line if they are saying it's bad? Why wouldn't they regrade at that? They took a freeroll otherwise.
                            Although they can do do that I guess, I'd be surprised if it was over a simple bad line issue too.

                            Hopefully SBR can get more info.
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                            • racing_is_fun
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 01-26-20
                              • 239

                              #15
                              Thanks Opti. Found it ironic that my balance was maybe $1700 or so and then hit a draft prop and some iracing to move my balance to where they could take the money out and leave me with $30 lol.
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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 61508

                                #16
                                Originally posted by racing_is_fun
                                Thanks Opti. Found it ironic that my balance was maybe $1700 or so and then hit a draft prop and some iracing to move my balance to where they could take the money out and leave me with $30 lol.
                                Ugh, that may explain it :\
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                                • PharaohUB
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-23-07
                                  • 4865

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by racing_is_fun
                                  Thanks Opti. Found it ironic that my balance was maybe $1700 or so and then hit a draft prop and some iracing to move my balance to where they could take the money out and leave me with $30 lol.
                                  Oof that doesn't look good on their part, but I guess could be a "coincidence". If you're in the right then you came to the right place. SBR will sort it out for you.
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                                  • joeyknish22
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 05-14-18
                                    • 23

                                    #18
                                    Same exact game. And I agree with Racing, I do not believe it was a line error, if there was any error it was the amount they were accepting ($500 max bets on WNCAA, when the pregame limit is $100). Between the 2 accounts, the win was over 10k (possibly more if other people were playing). This appears they found a past game they took a big loss and free rolled the accounts, then cancelled the wagers. Never heard of anybody cancelling bets 6 weeks later, really poor practice.

                                    Originally posted by racing_is_fun
                                    I'll call them or chat them later today but it just says "Risk Refund" under the description. I bet a women's wncaa game live. They were taking decent limits ($500 max bets) which was really good for that sport and the bets I made weren't bad lines. It was 6 weeks ago so I'd have to go back and review the game to be sure, but they were either losing or it was close to tied for the 2h but they were blowing out the team and wasn't a slam dunk the bet would win anyway. I just don't understand why they are now voiding it. Not like there's new info about the game. 6 weeks is unheard of and I'm pretty convinced this wasn't a bad line.

                                    My question to 5d is what was the correct line if they are saying it's bad? Why wouldn't they regrade at that? They took a freeroll otherwise.
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                                    • PharaohUB
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-23-07
                                      • 4865

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by joeyknish22
                                      Same exact game. And I agree with Racing, I do not believe it was a line error, if there was any error it was the amount they were accepting ($500 max bets on WNCAA, when the pregame limit is $100). Between the 2 accounts, the win was over 10k (possibly more if other people were playing). This appears they found a past game they took a big loss and free rolled the accounts, then cancelled the wagers. Never heard of anybody cancelling bets 6 weeks later, really poor practice.
                                      My spidey sense is saying you have a vested interest in the outcome.
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                                      • Grits n' Gravy
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 13024

                                        #20
                                        5d has been going downhill under new management.
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                                        • joeyknish22
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 05-14-18
                                          • 23

                                          #21
                                          Yes, I do. I helped the friend fund the account, so a % of the winnings is mine. He doesn't have an SBR account or twitter account so I took up the public battle for him. Also, I know the other guy who got ****** Racing is Fun in real life.

                                          Originally posted by PharaohUB
                                          My spidey sense is saying you have a vested interest in the outcome.
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                                          • Grits n' Gravy
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 13024

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by PharaohUB
                                            My spidey sense is saying you have a vested interest in the outcome.
                                            Originally posted by joeyknish22
                                            Yes, I do. I helped the friend fund the account, so a % of the winnings is mine. He doesn't have an SBR account or twitter account so I took up the public battle for him. Also, I know the other guy who got ****** Racing is Fun in real life.
                                            If this is the real Joey K, I would never doubt him. Stand up, sharper than many and humble.
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                                            • joeyknish22
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 05-14-18
                                              • 23

                                              #23
                                              Yes, this is me from twitter. Thank you very much for the kind words my man. I already posted the issue there, don't post on message boards frequently but SBR is very helpful in these matters, and has helped a lot of people I know in this type of situation. I have a lot of offshore contacts at other books (BOL, Bovada, etc) but I don't know anybody at 5dimes, so can't try and handle this one myself, need some help.

                                              Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                              If this is the real Joey K, I would never doubt him. Stand up, sharper than many and humble.
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                                              • DontTailMe
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-24-19
                                                • 2897

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by PharaohUB
                                                My spidey sense is saying you have a vested interest in the outcome.
                                                Bingo. Probably both outcomes. Does this person not have Internet nor Twitter?
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                                                • clockwise1965
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 10-01-13
                                                  • 6753

                                                  #25
                                                  I've never had an issue with 5dimes.
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                                                  • eaglesfan371
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-08-19
                                                    • 4079

                                                    #26
                                                    Zero excuse for this. None.

                                                    No interest in playing with 5dimes again after this.
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                                                    • joeyknish22
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 05-14-18
                                                      • 23

                                                      #27
                                                      I literally said earlier in the thread a percentage of the cut was mine and my buddy doesn't have a twitter or an SBR account, and I know the other guy it happened to in this thread in real life, friend of mine.

                                                      Originally posted by DontTailMe
                                                      Bingo. Probably both outcomes. Does this person not have Internet nor Twitter?
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                                                      • PD77
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-11-09
                                                        • 2380

                                                        #28
                                                        People act like 5dimes was great when Tony was still there. There were way more threads complaining about 5Dimes and Tony when he was alive than now, and the live chat sessions were epic. Tony had a cult following. It was even better when he was allowed to post at SBR. Made BTJ bend over and kiss his own ass. As for 5dimes going downhill since Tony’s demise, I don’t see it, the problem is they haven’t improved since then. They’re basically exactly where they were a year and a half ago, the innovation is gone, management is maintaining what he left them but that’s it.

                                                        As for this thread, I’ll get my and wait. I saw the screenshot of the bet on Twitter and the actual bets were blacked out so it’s impossible to get a lean what on happened. Betting $10k on a live women’s college basketball game is very interesting though, surprised it would take 6 weeks to notice that.
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                                                        • Grits n' Gravy
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 13024

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DontTailMe
                                                          Bingo. Probably both outcomes. Does this person not have Internet nor Twitter?
                                                          Joey is one of the few gamblers worth following on Twitter. He has more knowledge on how to make money on sports than most here.
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                                                          • joeyknish22
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 05-14-18
                                                            • 23

                                                            #30
                                                            I can't figure out the photo upload, but posted it on twitter. And sent in the screenshots and the game log play by play to SBR.

                                                            Originally posted by PD77
                                                            People act like 5dimes was great when Tony was still there. There were way more threads complaining about 5Dimes and Tony when he was alive than now, and the live chat sessions were epic. Tony had a cult following. It was even better when he was allowed to post at SBR. Made BTJ bend over and kiss his own ass. As for 5dimes going downhill since Tony’s demise, I don’t see it, the problem is they haven’t improved since then. They’re basically exactly where they were a year and a half ago, the innovation is gone, management is maintaining what he left them but that’s it.

                                                            As for this thread, I’ll get my and wait. I saw the screenshot of the bet on Twitter and the actual bets were blacked out so it’s impossible to get a lean what on happened. Betting $10k on a live women’s college basketball game is very interesting though, surprised it would take 6 weeks to notice that.
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                                                            • DontTailMe
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-24-19
                                                              • 2897

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                                              Joey is one of the few gamblers worth following on Twitter. He has more knowledge on how to make money on sports than most here.
                                                              Not sure how that’s relevant but okay.
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                                                              • racing_is_fun
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 01-26-20
                                                                • 239

                                                                #32
                                                                How long do investigations generally take with 5dimes? Has something like this been done in past?
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                                                                • joeyknish22
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 05-14-18
                                                                  • 23

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Just got word, and email forwarded to me that 5dimes has correct this, and placed the funds back in the players accounts. Thanks for all the help here from the SBR crew, and credit to 5d for making it right. Appreciate it gentleman.
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                                                                  • Optional
                                                                    Administrator
                                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                                    • 61508

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by joeyknish22
                                                                    Just got word, and email forwarded to me that 5dimes has correct this, and placed the funds back in the players accounts. Thanks for all the help here from the SBR crew, and credit to 5d for making it right. Appreciate it gentleman.
                                                                    Great news
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                                                                    • PD77
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-11-09
                                                                      • 2380

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Nice work SBR! I won’t ask for a reason as to why the bets were canceled 6 weeks after or why they decided to credit the funds back after SBR got involved. I’ll just write it off as 5Dimes being sketchy as hell on this one.
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