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  • rangerz2478
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    • 08-06-12
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    #1
    AROD Super Bowl prop grading
    Hi everyone just wanted to get some opinions. How do you think the following prop should be graded:

    NFL - NFL Super Bowl LIV - Will Alex Rodriguez be Shown During Halftime Show?

    He was NOT shown during the actual performance itself. Once they came back from commercial (post performance) they showed a quick shot of AROD in the crowd recording. This was during halftime, but not during the show itself. Do you think this should be graded as yes or no? I could see both arguments so curious what everyone thinks. Thanks.

  • ronald
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    • 10-31-05
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    #2
    In my view, the Halftime Show is the television time during halftime, excluding commercials. This includes the commentary from the panel along with any on-field entertainment. So, it should be graded as a YES.

    Furthermore, even if you argue that only the musical performance constitutes the Halftime Show, Arod was shown in the crowd, gyrating to the performance. Therefore, he was recorded during the Halftime Show, even if his mug wasn't shown live.

    Either way, I think the YES is the proper grading.

    Which book did you bet this at and how was it graded?
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    • rangerz2478
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      #3
      Originally posted by ronald
      In my view, the Halftime Show is the television time during halftime, excluding commercials. This includes the commentary from the panel along with any on-field entertainment. So, it should be graded as a YES.

      Furthermore, even if you argue that only the musical performance constitutes the Halftime Show, Arod was shown in the crowd, gyrating to the performance. Therefore, he was recorded during the Halftime Show, even if his mug wasn't shown live.

      Either way, I think the YES is the proper grading.

      Which book did you bet this at and how was it graded?
      Fair points. I actually saw it graded differently at 2 separate books which is why I started this thread. As i said i could see it either way but I think they should’ve had a rule regarding live shot or not to avoid any confusion. Now its just a mess that comes down to interpretation. Just wanted to get opinions first before naming the books.
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      • pologq
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        • 10-07-12
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        #4
        i think it has to be someone shown during the live halftime show, not on replay after the fact.
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        • pologq
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          #5
          Originally posted by rangerz2478
          Fair points. I actually saw it graded differently at 2 separate books which is why I started this thread. As i said i could see it either way but I think they should’ve had a rule regarding live shot or not to avoid any confusion. Now its just a mess that comes down to interpretation. Just wanted to get opinions first before naming the books.
          do you know if jl0 showing ass cleavage was graded a winner? curious if her stocking lower bodysuit counted as exposing cheeks or not.
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          • DontTailMe
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            #6
            Originally posted by ronald
            In my view, the Halftime Show is the television time during halftime, excluding commercials. This includes the commentary from the panel along with any on-field entertainment. So, it should be graded as a YES.

            Furthermore, even if you argue that only the musical performance constitutes the Halftime Show, Arod was shown in the crowd, gyrating to the performance. Therefore, he was recorded during the Halftime Show, even if his mug wasn't shown live.

            Either way, I think the YES is the proper grading.

            Which book did you bet this at and how was it graded?
            He was? I've freeze framed the whole show, and I can't see any point where he's clearly visible in the crowd shots.

            OP, if the prop says "during hafltime", then I'd agree that from whistle to whistle counts. But if the prop says "halftime show", then it's clearly the performance.
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            • milwaukee mike
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              #7
              Originally posted by DontTailMe
              He was? I've freeze framed the whole show, and I can't see any point where he's clearly visible in the crowd shots.

              OP, if the prop says "during hafltime", then I'd agree that from whistle to whistle counts. But if the prop says "halftime show", then it's clearly the performance.
              agree with this 100%

              the halftime SHOW is not the halftime BREAK

              and no j-lo did not show butt cleavage, showing cheeks isn't the same as showing crack/cleavage
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              • Optional
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                • 06-10-10
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                #8
                I think you are kind of stuck with the book interpretation.

                If it did not have any notes on the betting market apart from what you posted, then as you say, I think different books could grade it different ways and both claim to be correct.

                Personally I'd assume it meant anytime on TV between end of 1H and 2H kickoff, but assuming gets us no where is this business, and easy to see why a book would say during the half time show means during the entertainment performance.
                .
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                • DiggityDaggityDo
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                  • 11-30-08
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DontTailMe
                  He was? I've freeze framed the whole show, and I can't see any point where he's clearly visible in the crowd shots.
                  .
                  Because you were looking at ASS the whole time.

                  Totally understandable though.
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                  • rangerz2478
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                    agree with this 100%

                    the halftime SHOW is not the halftime BREAK

                    and no j-lo did not show butt cleavage, showing cheeks isn't the same as showing crack/cleavage
                    This would be my interpretation as well. The bet says halftime show, not break as you said.
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                    • rangerz2478
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by pologq
                      do you know if jl0 showing ass cleavage was graded a winner? curious if her stocking lower bodysuit counted as exposing cheeks or not.
                      Na no idea on that one.
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                      • rangerz2478
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by DontTailMe
                        He was? I've freeze framed the whole show, and I can't see any point where he's clearly visible in the crowd shots.

                        OP, if the prop says "during hafltime", then I'd agree that from whistle to whistle counts. But if the prop says "halftime show", then it's clearly the performance.
                        He was not shown at all during actual performance. 5 minutes later after the show was over, they showed a 2 second clip of him recording, then they went to regular halftime football analysis. In my opinion, that is not part of the “halftime show” at all.
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                        • ronald
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by rangerz2478
                          This would be my interpretation as well. The bet says halftime show, not break as you said.
                          But let's not forget that during the regular season, they refer to the "halftime show," yet there is no actual musical performance shown on TV. The halftime show during the regular season consists of a panel, game highlights, and some interviews.
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                          • rangerz2478
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ronald
                            But let's not forget that during the regular season, they refer to the "halftime show," yet there is no actual musical performance shown on TV. The halftime show during the regular season consists of a panel, game highlights, and some interviews.
                            Understood can be interpreted either way, just think there’s more argument to the other side.
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                            • Ksherm
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                              #15
                              You have a lot of time on your hands.. for a $100 max bet..
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                              • rangerz2478
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Ksherm
                                You have a lot of time on your hands.. for a $100 max bet..
                                Yea cause there aren’t sites out there who let you bet $100 30 times. Ignorance at its best on full display. Thanks for chiming in.
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                                • Bostongambler
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                                  #17
                                  We used to write out our rules clear and concise. I’m sure it’s in there.
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                                  • rangerz2478
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Bostongambler
                                    We used to write out our rules clear and concise. I’m sure it’s in there.
                                    It wasn't.

                                    I even asked the site in question to clarify the rule on another prop that could've come down to interpretation. Was told they'd make it more clear and never did. The only thing the site showed is what I posted above.
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                                    • Ksherm
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                                      #19
                                      The one site that graded it a winner. changed it to a loser....
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                                      • DontTailMe
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                        Because you were looking at ASS the whole time.

                                        Totally understandable though.
                                        The first time, yes. The re-watch was specifically for this prop.

                                        Anyways, I had one book refund my stake (without me asking) because they couldn't say when A-Rod was shown. I'll accept that outcome since the other book I bet this at graded it in my favor.

                                        Originally posted by Ksherm
                                        You have a lot of time on your hands.. for a $100 max bet..
                                        It's a lot more than $100 at certain books.

                                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                        and no j-lo did not show butt cleavage, showing cheeks isn't the same as showing crack/cleavage
                                        Correct. This is easy, folks. What is breast cleavage? The space between. So carry that over to the ass. Also, the dictionary definition of "cleave" should make this distinction obvious..
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                                        • rangerz2478
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Ksherm
                                          The one site that graded it a winner. changed it to a loser....
                                          Which side was changed from winner to loser?
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                                          • Ksherm
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                                            #22
                                            The yes to a no
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                                            • xKMACKx
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                                              #23
                                              It should clearly be interpreted as the halftime show performance.
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                                              • pologq
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by xKMACKx
                                                It should clearly be interpreted as the halftime show performance.
                                                i agree with this and it should state so.
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                                                • milwaukee mike
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ronald
                                                  But let's not forget that during the regular season, they refer to the "halftime show," yet there is no actual musical performance shown on TV. The halftime show during the regular season consists of a panel, game highlights, and some interviews.
                                                  maybe they did a long time ago

                                                  now it's usually the "pregame show" but it's the "halftime report"

                                                  find any clips of halftime and it will say stuff like this, welcome to the v.isa halftime REPORT

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                                                  • trytrytry
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                                                    #26
                                                    not shown during the halftime show the music thing

                                                    was shown on super bowl broadcast during halftime
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                                                    • xKMACKx
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                                                      #27
                                                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/pILCn6VO_RU" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                                                      "The NFL welcomes you to the Super Bowl 54 Halftime Show"...."The NFL thanks you for watching the Super Bowl 54 Halftime Show". There is no A-Rod shown.
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                                                      • ronald
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by xKMACKx
                                                        <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/pILCn6VO_RU" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                                                        "The NFL welcomes you to the Super Bowl 54 Halftime Show"...."The NFL thanks you for watching the Super Bowl 54 Halftime Show". There is no A-Rod shown.
                                                        However, the clip of him showed him during the performance.
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                                                        • DontTailMe
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                                                          #29
                                                          Which wasn't during the show.
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                                                          • milwaukee mike
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by DontTailMe
                                                            Which wasn't during the show.
                                                            ronald just doesn’t like to admit he was wrong so he makes sillier and sillier arguments.
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                                                            • xKMACKx
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ronald
                                                              However, the clip of him showed him during the performance.
                                                              The key word is DURING the Halftime Show. A replay isn't during. In any event, the books that are ruling it as YES see it that way.
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