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  • Jak Jons
    Restricted User
    • 04-22-19
    • 53

    #1
    pinnacle
    Pinnacle cheats again bet on Cross Country Skiing Johannes Hoesflot Klaebo vs The Field and Maiken Caspersen Falla vs The Field One bet won, one lost, so they won the bid that they won. they say that I set after the start of the event The events began at 12:30 CET and they say that at 10:00 I sent them an official protocol https://www.fis-ski.com/DB/general/r...C&raceid=34333 but they no longer deceive and give money

  • Optional
    Administrator
    • 06-10-10
    • 61495

    #2
    If you send in this form https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/ we can ask a manager to explain what has happened here for you.
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    • Jak Jons
      Restricted User
      • 04-22-19
      • 53

      #3
      filled in when the answer awakens?
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      • infotimbo
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-24-18
        • 845

        #4
        no idea if this plays a part in this, but the qualification rounds indeed started at 10:00 cet for the women and 10:45 cet for the men.

        FIS globally governs skiing and snowboarding and oversees over 7,000 events annually in Alpine, Cross-Country, Ski Jumping, Nordic Combined, Freestyle, Snowboard, and more.


        Did you place your bets in between that time frame? Usually Pinnacle closes all markets when the qualification starts, as matchbets can be decided in that part of the race already
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        • Jak Jons
          Restricted User
          • 04-22-19
          • 53

          #5
          I also bet on ski jumping after qualification Timi Zajc vs The Field for Matchups. Win1 they considered this bet as a loss. It turns out that they are calculating bets since mime is profitable or do I not understand something?
          It turns out that they are calculating bets since mime is profitable or do I not understand something?they considered this bet as a lossthey considered this bet as a lossthey considered this bet as a loss
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          • infotimbo
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 10-24-18
            • 845

            #6
            Ski Jumping qualification was on Friday, you betted on Saturday, as far as I can see, so this was a new market (odds on Zajc were 20+ before qualification).

            Cross Country timing was, as far as I can see:

            10:00 cet Women's Sprint Qualification
            10:08 cet Your bet on Men's Sprint Race
            10:09 cet Your bet on Women's Sprint Race
            10:45 cet Men's Sprint Qualification
            12:30 cet Women's Sprint Race
            12:57 cet Men's Sprint Race

            is this correct?

            Of course it is unfortunate how it happened, as the qualification of the women's race didn't have much influence on Falla winning or not, but personally I fear there is not much you can do.
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            • Jak Jons
              Restricted User
              • 04-22-19
              • 53

              #7
              After the qualification, there were no influences among the co-players, which were the ones and remained at all the bookmakers. Stina Nielson was a favorite both before qualification and after
              was a favorite both before qualification and afterwas a favorite both before qualification and afterwas a favorite both before qualification and after
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              • Jak Jons
                Restricted User
                • 04-22-19
                • 53

                #8
                What does the new market mean? I put on ski jumping after qualification and skiing after qualification. In winter sports, it happens that after training the odds change from 50 to 3 or 2. It turns out that absolutely at all bets they must get refunds since sports seeds train every day
                It turns out that absolutely at all bets they must get refunds since sports seeds train every dayIt turns out that absolutely at all bets they must get refunds since sports seeds train every dayIn winter sports, it happens that after training the odds change from 50 to 3 or 2What does the new market mean? I put on ski jumping after qualification and skiing after qualification
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                • Jak Jons
                  Restricted User
                  • 04-22-19
                  • 53

                  #9
                  Originally posted by infotimbo
                  Ski Jumping qualification was on Friday, you betted on Saturday, as far as I can see, so this was a new market (odds on Zajc were 20+ before qualification).

                  Cross Country timing was, as far as I can see:

                  10:00 cet Women's Sprint Qualification
                  10:08 cet Your bet on Men's Sprint Race
                  10:09 cet Your bet on Women's Sprint Race
                  10:45 cet Men's Sprint Qualification
                  12:30 cet Women's Sprint Race
                  12:57 cet Men's Sprint Race

                  is this correct?

                  Of course it is unfortunate how it happened, as the qualification of the women's race didn't have much influence on Falla winning or not, but personally I fear there is not much you can do.
                  Falla finished qualification only in 6th place and the chances of her victory even increased
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                  • infotimbo
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 10-24-18
                    • 845

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jak Jons
                    What does the new market mean?
                    in Ski Jumping, qualification (usually) takes place the day before the event. Markets on Pinnacle are closed when it starts, and then they set up a new one on the day of the event, with new bets and new odds. No problem.

                    In Cross Country, qualification takes place right before the race, and all markets on Pinnacle are closed when qualification starts, and never come back. This time they made a mistake and had the starting time of the Women wrong, and therefor cancelled your bet.
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                    • infotimbo
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 10-24-18
                      • 845

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jak Jons
                      Falla finished qualification only in 6th place and the chances of her victory even increased
                      For Falla it didn't make much of a difference, but other bets were decided in qualification already (as Lundgren and Dahlqvist did not qualify for the race):



                      so I guess they got a lot of volume on those (already decided) bets, and therefore cancelled every bet which was placed after the start.
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                      • Jak Jons
                        Restricted User
                        • 04-22-19
                        • 53

                        #12
                        Originally posted by infotimbo
                        in Ski Jumping, qualification (usually) takes place the day before the event. Markets on Pinnacle are closed when it starts, and then they set up a new one on the day of the event, with new bets and new odds. No problem.

                        In Cross Country, qualification takes place right before the race, and all markets on Pinnacle are closed when qualification starts, and never come back. This time they made a mistake and had the starting time of the Women wrong, and therefor cancelled your bet.
                        In ski jumping, very often qualification takes place on the same day as the final competition. One must be consistent or accept bets only before the start of the competition (qualification) or accept before the start of the final stage. And do not count as it is profitable for them
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                        • Jak Jons
                          Restricted User
                          • 04-22-19
                          • 53

                          #13
                          Originally posted by infotimbo
                          For Falla it didn't make much of a difference, but other bets were decided in qualification already (as Lundgren and Dahlqvist did not qualify for the race):



                          so I guess they got a lot of volume on those (already decided) bets, and therefore cancelled every bet which was placed after the start.



                          And that Pinnacle accepts bets on American football 2 half of the match in the pre-match line at the moment when the first half is played. If in the first half 5 leaders of the team get injured, then they will also put a lot in the second half. There are many examples when it accepts bets on a pre-match line when events started !!! So why do they have double stagndarts when I won they gave me a refund and when I lost a loss?
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                          • Jak Jons
                            Restricted User
                            • 04-22-19
                            • 53

                            #14
                            It is clear that ions work in Pinnacle, which they don’t understand in sports, and as soon as they win they are looking for a reason not to pay
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                            • infotimbo
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-24-18
                              • 845

                              #15
                              I just explained why they cancelled the bet on the Women's race. I'm not saying you made a mistake - it was Pinnacle's fault that they got the starting times wrong.

                              If you had placed your bet 10 minutes earlier, it would be a clear winner - this way, the only thing you can hope for, is that they regrade it as a matter of good will. And it has nothing to do with "cheating".
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                              • Jak Jons
                                Restricted User
                                • 04-22-19
                                • 53

                                #16
                                They are scammers because they do it on purpose so that people would be in the red and they are in the black, I wrote to you that they very often open the pre-match bets at a time when the events are being played, American football said an example
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 61495

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by infotimbo
                                  Ski Jumping qualification was on Friday, you betted on Saturday, as far as I can see, so this was a new market (odds on Zajc were 20+ before qualification).

                                  Cross Country timing was, as far as I can see:

                                  10:00 cet Women's Sprint Qualification
                                  10:08 cet Your bet on Men's Sprint Race
                                  10:09 cet Your bet on Women's Sprint Race
                                  10:45 cet Men's Sprint Qualification
                                  12:30 cet Women's Sprint Race
                                  12:57 cet Men's Sprint Race

                                  is this correct?

                                  Of course it is unfortunate how it happened, as the qualification of the women's race didn't have much influence on Falla winning or not, but personally I fear there is not much you can do.

                                  Thanks for helping explain Timbo
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                                  • Jak Jons
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 04-22-19
                                    • 53

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                    Thanks for helping explain Timbo
                                    What explained why I was given a refund on skiing bets, and on a ski jumping bet I was a loser, although I bet similar ones ???
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                                    • Jak Jons
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 04-22-19
                                      • 53

                                      #19
                                      I see here administrators and moderators, who are also stubborn and paid by bookmakers who do not understand anything, and only protect bookmakers who steal money because they are paid for it and this is their job
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                                      • Jak Jons
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 04-22-19
                                        • 53

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                        Thanks for helping explain Timbo
                                        I wish that your relatives were blown up by Arabs in the subway or blown up in an airplane, together with the Pinnacle workers. You cheat people for 100 euros. It will return with great return!!!
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                                        • icon
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-09-18
                                          • 3441

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Jak Jons
                                          I see here administrators and moderators, who are also stubborn and paid by bookmakers who do not understand anything, and only protect bookmakers who steal money because they are paid for it and this is their job
                                          I see here frustrated gamblers that start threads accusing legitimate A+ books of theft are often mistaken and unwilling to accept that they may be in the wrong. Many times the mods/admins provide excellent explanations and valid reasons but are ignored by the thread starter.
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                                          • Optional
                                            Administrator
                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 61495

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Jak Jons
                                            What explained why I was given a refund on skiing bets, and on a ski jumping bet I was a loser, although I bet similar ones ???
                                            Yes, that is what he explained.

                                            Ski Jumping qualification was completed Friday and you bet Saturday on that event, so your losing bet stands.

                                            Sprint race qualification was not until Saturday, and you placed the bet on that after Quali started, so they cancelled your bets on that event.




                                            Originally posted by Jak Jons
                                            I wish that your relatives were blown up by Arabs in the subway or blown up in an airplane, together with the Pinnacle workers. You cheat people for 100 euros. It will return with great return!!!
                                            Sheesh.
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                                            • PD77
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-11-09
                                              • 2380

                                              #23
                                              Tough crowd here Opti! All for 100 Euro?
                                              And return where? Hopefully not here.
                                              Surely Jak Jons gets an autoban for that right?
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61495

                                                #24
                                                Yes, and the mod who gave it deleted his post.

                                                I thought it was better to undelete it and leave it visible.


                                                That's nothing compared to the violent threats Shari gets though.
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