DAYATTHETRACK.COM is trying TO STEAL ME 3200$

**Crusherrr** · 04-30-19, 10:02 PM

Pretty sketchy you are making big deposits and not playing/betting much. Seems pretty obvious you are doing something or were planning something shady.

**ibaka870** · 04-30-19, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by Crusherrr

Pretty sketchy you are making big deposits and not playing/betting much. Seems pretty obvious you are doing something or were planning something shady.

And can you tell me what am I planning or doing??

Do you have the right to steal me 3200$ just because you think that I could be planning something you can´t even tell me what it is?

Who is acting shady here offering gambling services without a license in the Spanish territory, and then confiscating funds with no proof, reason and neither a cause??

**unusialsusp5** · 04-30-19, 11:08 PM

they believe you are doing some type of money laundering or want to. they are a legitimate u.s. based licensed site and not an offshore site who make their own rules. they pay out funds immediately if requested. no slow or no pay ever. you will get your money back but berating them probably annoyed them so they are taking their time.

**Optional** · 04-30-19, 11:56 PM

I doubt they will steal anything but it seems pointless and weird to ask you get some form signed when all they need to do is process refunds to negate any chance of your bank reversing the payments.

It appears that you being so suspicious of them has created a situation where they are now suspicious of you.

You are welcome to submit a sportsbook complaint form but it sounds like you simply need to return their form and will be paid anyway.

**Optional** · 05-01-19, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by unusialsusp5

they are a legitimate u.s. based licensed site and not an offshore site who make their own rules.

Oh boy. You just wait for how some licensed operators will use legitimate rules to mess with you.

In a few years people will be saying remember the good old days when offshores had to live and die by reputation and actually had rules written to be fair to both parties.

**ibaka870** · 05-01-19, 07:22 AM

What I see there is no reason at all is the way they deal with me, they just don't want to speak with me so they don't pick up the phone, and they hung the phone when I was talking to them.

That is not the way to act If you suspend an account. The client deserves feedback so he can know what will happen with his money.

I tell you I won't sign any weird document made by them god knows how. I imagine they want me to admit some kind of shit I won't. It is scummy obbeying me to sign a document in order to send my funds, when in the document they want me to sign i must renounce any right of getting my money back.

If they don't want to give my funds back friendly I will submit a form to the Spanish Administration reporting illegal gambling by this company and asking my bank to ********** payments because of fraud.

**michael777** · 05-01-19, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by unusialsusp5

they believe you are doing some type of money laundering or want to. they are a legitimate u.s. based licensed site and not an offshore site who make their own rules. they pay out funds immediately if requested. no slow or no pay ever. you will get your money back but berating them probably annoyed them so they are taking their time.

As you stated,they are a legal USA company who puts the players wagers straight into the pool,their website layout SUCKS,beside that,they are fine,if you deposit somewhere IB,then BET!! If not STFU!!

**unusialsusp5** · 05-01-19, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by michael777

As you stated,they are a legal USA company who puts the players wagers straight into the pool,their website layout SUCKS,beside that,they are fine,if you deposit somewhere IB,then BET!! If not STFU!!

i know. they are 1000x more legitimate than any offshore site. they are not a book. they are merely a portal that collects commissions from race tracks to shuttle bets into pari mutuel pools. they pay immediately. they are regulated. this guy thinks we are still fighting the spanish american war. they didn't swallow that fish story that he wants to bet big money so he kept depositing more and more. they are making an example out of him to prevent money laundering on their site.

**ibaka870** · 05-01-19, 08:10 AM

It is only 1 month since I opened the account. It is only one week since I made 3000$ deposits. It took 48 h until I had them available in my account.

The reason I cant bet Is they dont allow me to do it. I told them kindly to reopen my account because I wanted to do big bets this week. They just do not want.

THE ONES WHO DO NOT LET ME BETTING ARE THEM.

And by the way they are stealing me 3200$

**ibaka870** · 05-01-19, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by unusialsusp5

i know. they are 1000x more legitimate than any offshore site. they are not a book. they are merely a portal that collects commissions from race tracks to shuttle bets into pari mutuel pools. they pay immediately. they are regulated. this guy thinks we are still fighting the spanish american war. they didn't swallow that fish story that he wants to bet big money so he kept depositing more and more. they are making an example out of him to prevent money laundering on their site.

So you have a book and when someone makes a large deposit it means that he is laundrying money??

You guys are saying that 50% of the forum is laundrying money then.

That is a total joke.

And what about hanging the phone when I was speaking to them?

They got my ID, and I made the payments through a debit card issued at my name.

**unusialsusp5** · 05-01-19, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by ibaka870

So you have a book and when someone makes a large deposit it means that he is laundrying money??

You guys are saying that 50% of the forum is laundrying money then.

That is a total joke.

And what about hanging the phone when I was speaking to them?

They got my ID, and I made the payments through a debit card issued at my name.

they only suspected that you might be laundering money. day at the track is not a sportsbook or a racebook. you are confused. they exist to shuttle horse bets into legitimate pools for which they receive a commission. they don't like you and will give you your money back when they feel like it. your spanish gambling commission can do nothing so don't waste your time contacting them.

**ibaka870** · 05-01-19, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by unusialsusp5

they only suspected that you might be laundering money. day at the track is not a sportsbook or a racebook. you are confused. they exist to shuttle horse bets into legitimate pools for which they receive a commission. they don't like you and will give you your money back when they feel like it. your spanish gambling commission can do nothing so don't waste your time contacting them.

OK, so then everyone must know that If "they don't like a client" they will give their money back "when they feel like it"

And If you think you just can comit a crime prosecuted in a country just because you feel like it then you will have to face up the consecuences.

As I think you have any kind of relation with this company just trying to blame agressively like when i try to speak them, I have to warn people not to bet through dayatthetrack, as they will confiscate your funds with no reason and give it to you if they "feel like it".

For sure betamerica or offtrackbetting are better alternatives. Don't deposit here as there is a high risk they do not pay you.

**littlekona** · 05-01-19, 09:46 AM

OP sounds very suspicious kinda of like our old friend BETG....but since I have experience with adw in USA will help....I have heard of them they are smaller outfit licensing in California I believe...Now all adw in USA have to be tied into a track to be allowed to accept those states....all states have a racing board that oversees all this and from my experience they are very accessible and you can call them...I would first call your states racing board and ask if dayathetack is registered with them....if they say yes tell them your complaints if no hang up and call dayatthetrack and say in polite tone if you do not give me my funds I will notify my state racing board you are illegally accepting wagers from my state...they will get huge fine and possible legal actions against them....that said you do seem like a scammer OP

**unusialsusp5** · 05-01-19, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by ibaka870

OK, so then everyone must know that If "they don't like a client" they will give their money back "when they feel like it"

And If you think you just can comit a crime prosecuted in a country just because you feel like it then you will have to face up the consecuences.

As I think you have any kind of relation with this company just trying to blame agressively like when i try to speak them, I have to warn people not to bet through dayatthetrack, as they will confiscate your funds with no reason and give it to you if they "feel like it".

For sure betamerica or offtrackbetting are better alternatives. Don't deposit here as there is a high risk they do not pay you.

i believe it is only you that they do not like. somehow you infuriated them. you continue to fail to understand that they are not a sportsbook and do not confiscate funds. because you deposited with a foreign debit card they are double checking everything in relation to this. there is no urgency on their part to expedite this immediately. they do not want your business. who can blame them.

**ibaka870** · 05-01-19, 10:01 AM

They are acting as an off shore book with me.

Blaming clients of money laundry and scamming just because they use off shore gambling companies is kind of hypocrite here,a forum where we exchange opinions and recommendations of this companies.

If a have to legally claim my funds I know exactly what to do. Just trying to solve the dispute friendly, calling them, and their decission is to insult me, as they have done.

Just warning people what kind of things they do, I suspected the were not trusty, what then has been proven real.

**ibaka870** · 05-01-19, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by unusialsusp5

i believe it is only you that they do not like. somehow you infuriated them. you continue to fail to understand that they are not a sportsbook and do not confiscate funds. because you deposited with a foreign debit card they are double checking everything in relation to this. there is no urgency on their part to expedite this immediately. they do not want your business. who can blame them.

They charged me 3200$ and do not want to give it back.

Confiscating my funds is exactly what they are doing.

I blame them of course, because it is my money.

**littlekona** · 05-01-19, 11:48 AM

What state u in? If you follow there directions and get paper work signed sounds like they will release funds back...seems very fair solution but of course you are up to something so it’s difficult to do that correct?

**ibaka870** · 05-01-19, 01:01 PM

I am from Spain.

And they don't even tell me what kind of document they want me to sign, or when they will forward it to me.

It seems they want me to admit something, or want me to renounce the right to legally claim my funds.

They don't pick up my calls, don't either answer my emails.

I think I will have to claim my funds to my bank with a fraud accusation for this company.

They are acting really shady.

**littlekona** · 05-01-19, 01:27 PM

Dude your actions are just as shady...but I will say I called the California racing Board and they said no California license they never heard of them...they have a san fransico phone number...I opened a can of worms as the guy at the board office is now looking into them lol....I would dayattheraces and politely ask for there license and state and that you know they are not license to accept wagers on California tracks which they offer and if they don’t send you funds back ASAP you will contact every states racing board since most likely they are not registered if guys at Cali office don’t know them....we know u where up to know good but I hate fraud sites even more then scammers

**ibaka870** · 05-01-19, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by littlekona

Dude your actions are just as shady...but I will say I called the California racing Board and they said no California license they never heard of them...they have a san fransico phone number...I opened a can of worms as the guy at the board office is now looking into them lol....I would dayattheraces and politely ask for there license and state and that you know they are not license to accept wagers on California tracks which they offer and if they don’t send you funds back ASAP you will contact every states racing board since most likely they are not registered if guys at Cali office don’t know them....we know u where up to know good but I hate fraud sites even more then scammers

I can see through their website they are not licensed in a lot of states. For example, as you said, they are not licensed in california.

They do not offer wagering for California residents.

But they offer wagering on California meetings for other State residents.

Do you mean that what they are doing is not legal??

**michael777** · 05-01-19, 08:16 PM

make bets like a man son and stop trying to scam ADW'S

**ibaka870** · 05-01-19, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by michael777

make bets like a man son and stop trying to scam ADW'S

You are wrong dude.
They scammed me 3200$ giving me no reasons.
They say the have a customer service where you can speak to them, but they do not pick up the phone.
They do not answer emails either.
They are offering tracks they are not licensed for.
They are offering wagering services in states they have no license at all.

And there is no way I could scam an AWD as I get the price from the pool.

And of course you are not a user but an employee. That is the only thing obvious here.

**littlekona** · 05-01-19, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by ibaka870

I can see through their website they are not licensed in a lot of states. For example, as you said, they are not licensed in california.

They do not offer wagering for California residents.

But they offer wagering on California meetings for other State residents.

Do you mean that what they are doing is not legal??

Thye are small time outfit google address and street view shows them in a strip mall...thye handled little over 100k last month on New York tracks...adws like xpressbet tvg do 3 million plus in ny March...they literally could have 10 or less customers..if you are a legit player which I doubt how the hell could you find these guys esp since ure in Spain with plenty of legit adws around

**Optional** · 05-01-19, 11:42 PM

Have you submitted a complaint form ibaka870?

SBR can probably get the answers you want from them.

I am fairly sure the form will be asking your bank to sign that the debit card charges will not be reversed due to them refusing you service. And then they will pay you by some other method.

**mtneer1212** · 05-02-19, 12:31 AM

Dayatthetrack is a legitimate US based pari-mutuel operator. I have played there for years. It is very unusual to make multiple large deposits without making bets. If you wanted to deposit a large amount of money, you could have contacted them for wire info. In any case, they likely suspected that either you were attempting to money launder in some way, preparing to place large show wagers, which US account wagering sites are NOT interested in (it creates a minus pool that they, not the track have to cover), or planning to manipulate small pari-mutel pools to bet larger offshore.

Shawn is a good dude, and very fair. They smelled the rat here..... there is a 5% chance here that you were doing something legitimate, and 95% you were planning some type of scam.

Any US based book would have done the same.

**Vyasports** · 05-02-19, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by ibaka870

I was planning to wager big amounts, but first I started wagering small amounts in order to try the site, as I was not confident enough they would place big bets. Did not want to risk too much with them, I was not confident they would pay me. Then, when I tried their service, I made a larger deposit of 2200$, which they accepted. Last, I made another deposit of another 800$ in order to fund my account big and start wagering big amounts on USA racing, once I gained confidence about their service.

That is the most idiotic thing I read from someone who places big bets. How were you able to find out if they would pay you? How did you "gain confidence about their service" before depositing "big" amounts? You placed small bets to find out if they would place big bets?
DUDE...i mean come on...

**ibaka870** · 05-02-19, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by mtneer1212

Dayatthetrack is a legitimate US based pari-mutuel operator. I have played there for years. It is very unusual to make multiple large deposits without making bets. If you wanted to deposit a large amount of money, you could have contacted them for wire info. In any case, they likely suspected that either you were attempting to money launder in some way, preparing to place large show wagers, which US account wagering sites are NOT interested in (it creates a minus pool that they, not the track have to cover), or planning to manipulate small pari-mutel pools to bet larger offshore.

Shawn is a good dude, and very fair. They smelled the rate here..... there is a 5% chance here that you were doing something legitimate, and 95% you were planning some type of scam.

Any US based book would have done the same.

Ok, if he does not deal with large deposits he could have told me before, or he could have rejected them. He could have rejected a foreign customer if he was going to suspect from every non USA resident.

And he could answer my phone calls an emails. I have been literally trying to contact them for 2 days every way I could, and they just do not want to.

I could give them my IBAN account so they make a wire transfer and that would be fine to me, or the could process refunds to my debit card too.

But confiscating my funds and then telling me no word about it just because some suspicious made up idea is a practice worth of some of the most obscure bookies on the internet.

Now he has 3200$ which belong to me, and he is doing everything he can not to collaborate an taking them.

That is not fair. More important, I HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING BAD. If have not even made an attemp of those things you named.

Imagine you make a deposit at a bookie and start looking odds of some soccer match that has strange results in a low league. And then, the bookie decides that as you were looking at this match for too long time you have probably fixed and just because of this decides to take all your funds. Ok, you have not done anything, literally.
Thinking you could do something is not a reason enough to steal your funds.

For sure people should play in other AWDs more serious than this, as it has the same elements every F rated bookie has.

Not picking up the phone when I call and answering emails just means this guys are scamming me.

**ibaka870** · 05-02-19, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by Vyasports

That is the most idiotic thing I read from someone who places big bets. How were you able to find out if they would pay you? How did you "gain confidence about their service" before depositing "big" amounts? You placed small bets to find out if they would place big bets?
DUDE...i mean come on...

You use the same terms this guy Shawn used when he blatantly hung up the phone and refused picking up my calls.

Well, now I know they wont pay me. Everything I suspected from them has then been true, so you can not blame me for for it.

I could not find reviews about this site. They were taking like 2 days or more to answer my emails. I even tried to make a small withdrawal and then found in the website that there was no option for a non USA resident so I could not withdraw money.

I then asked them how could I retire, and them answered that the only way i could retire would be processing manually the transfer via email request.

It took more than 48h for every debit card transaction in order to be processed. I had never seen this before IN ANY INTERNET BOOKIE OR STORE.

They don't have a license to operate in most states, and do not have a license to operate in my country.

So you want me to sign in to some bookie that can't even answer an email properly, nor process a debit card transaction in less than 24h, don't answer my phone calls to their customer service, and can't even have a good website that does not look as cheap as the "buy my book an get rich" scam sites , that is running his business ilegally in my country and start throwing bets worth of hundreds and thousands?? And you just think that I should trust this people from the very first moment??

Guys, you have confiscated funds of an account just because It has reached the insane amount of 3000$, which to your eyes looks like some kind of huge mafia money launderying scam. That is the only thing that is idiotic here.

I have send my IDs, and made payments with a debit card issued to my name with an account in my home country. Well, the account is even in the same city I live in. How the f**k could I be trying to run a money launderying scheme, that is what is f**king retarded idea.

Idiotic is hunging up the phone when I am trying to speak with you and trying to explain myself, being polite even when you are insulting me.

But the most Idiotic would be playing in this bookie after reading this post and knowing the way they work.

**dealer wins** · 05-02-19, 03:59 AM

Gotta agree with others it does look like the OP was trying to scam them in some way .

**jtoler** · 05-02-19, 04:11 AM

good luck gambling peers are the worst

**jjgold** · 05-02-19, 07:13 AM

all these places just skins with very little voolume

most close real quick

horses dead

Stick wit the big boys like TVG, Twinspires, or the tracks that offer online platforms in your state if allowed

**mtneer1212** · 05-02-19, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by ibaka870

You use the same terms this guy Shawn used when he blatantly hung up the phone and refused picking up my calls.

Well, now I know they wont pay me. Everything I suspected from them has then been true, so you can not blame me for for it.

I could not find reviews about this site. They were taking like 2 days or more to answer my emails. I even tried to make a small withdrawal and then found in the website that there was no option for a non USA resident so I could not withdraw money.

I then asked them how could I retire, and them answered that the only way i could retire would be processing manually the transfer via email request.

It took more than 48h for every debit card transaction in order to be processed. I had never seen this before IN ANY INTERNET BOOKIE OR STORE.

They don't have a license to operate in most states, and do not have a license to operate in my country.

So you want me to sign in to some bookie that can't even answer an email properly, nor process a debit card transaction in less than 24h, don't answer my phone calls to their customer service, and can't even have a good website that does not look as cheap as the "buy my book an get rich" scam sites , that is running his business ilegally in my country and start throwing bets worth of hundreds and thousands?? And you just think that I should trust this people from the very first moment??

Guys, you have confiscated funds of an account just because It has reached the insane amount of 3000$, which to your eyes looks like some kind of huge mafia money launderying scam. That is the only thing that is idiotic here.

I have send my IDs, and made payments with a debit card issued to my name with an account in my home country. Well, the account is even in the same city I live in. How the f**k could I be trying to run a money launderying scheme, that is what is f**king retarded idea.

Idiotic is hunging up the phone when I am trying to speak with you and trying to explain myself, being polite even when you are insulting me.

But the most Idiotic would be playing in this bookie after reading this post and knowing the way they work.

They have not stolen your money. They told you what you need to do. There is nothing more to discuss. The faster you take care of business with the bank guaranteeing a non-reversal, then you will get your cash back. They probably don't want to speak to you because there is nothing more to argue about.

**mtneer1212** · 05-02-19, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

all these places just skins with very little voolume

most close real quick

horses dead

Stick wit the big boys like TVG, Twinspires, or the tracks that offer online platforms in your state if allowed

Dayatthetrack is not a skin. They are a licensed pari-mutuel hub. Just like Twinspires and Xpressbet and BetAmerica and TVG, and others..... they are just smaller, but have much better rebates.

**ibaka870** · 05-02-19, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by mtneer1212

They have not stolen your money. They told you what you need to do. There is nothing more to discuss. The faster you take care of business with the bank guaranteeing a non-reversal, then you will get your cash back. They probably don't want to speak to you because there is nothing more to argue about.

I am not going to sign what they want just because they want it LOL What a joke.

They want me to sign a renounce so I can not claim the payment LOL

Why not telling me I suck their dick hahaha

I do not five a f**k why they do not want to get in touch with me, either give a f**k what kind of obscure document they want me to sign. They will not force me to sign shit.

They stole my funds, thats what they did.

They run out with my money and don´t want to tell me shit.

So I will have to claim my funds legally,

And everyone must know what kind of scumbag they are.