Pinnacle Cheaters

[Jak Jons]

Is there no pincal representative on this forum?
Is there no pincal representative on this forum?

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Is there no pincal representative on this forum?
Is there no pincal representative on this forum?

No. Did you fill out the sportsbook complaint form Genie linked for you in post #2?

[Alfa1234]

Pointless to file a complaint, there's no way Pinnacle will regrade this.

You should not be arbing if you cannot weed out things like that, it's a recipe for disaster. You'll be losing money all the time. It's not Pinnacle's fault...they clearly state they'll cancel bets if score or count is displayed wrongly.

[jjgold]

Pinnacle A++++

No issue here

[Superama]

Pinnacle is a pretty bad bookie. They are only rated A because they pay in time. Because if we talk about markets and odds they are a F bookie. Super Late odds, no ML in must of Baskeball games or when they open it the odd is ridiculous. I'm not even going to talk about their limits and the low odds on multiples.

[Alfie White]

What a tool lol

[Jak Jons]

pinnacle scammers

pinnacle Again cheating and stealing money
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How can so much deceive and have such a high rating?

[leetreaper]

Pinnacle stole his 18$...cant mske this shit up

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Did they tell you why?

Bets being placed so far apart suggests all betting was voided for some reason.

[Jak Jons]

Pinnacle stole his 18$...cant mske this shit up

they canceled three of my bets
they canceled three of my bets

[Jak Jons]

Did they tell you why?

Here is what they wroteBets being placed so far apart suggests all betting was voided for some reason.

ue Jun 25 10:16:22 PDT 2019: Abnormal and suspicious betting activity has been detected for this event. All wagers from all customers have been cancelled. This action is taken very rarely and is for the protection of all our customers.

When I followed the first bet on the odds 1.53 after a while it rose to 2.06 I set again and then after a while my victory rose to 2.2 For this match, the coefficients changed in different ways. People bet on both the victory of one team and the victory of another. Why give a refund ??? This is a simple theft.

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ue Jun 25 10:16:22 PDT 2019: Abnormal and suspicious betting activity has been detected for this event. All wagers from all customers have been cancelled. This action is taken very rarely and is for the protection of all our customers.

When I followed the first bet on the odds 1.53 after a while it rose to 2.06 I set again and then after a while my victory rose to 2.2 For this match, the coefficients changed in different ways. People bet on both the victory of one team and the victory of another. Why give a refund ??? This is a simple theft.

That is very frustrating

[Jak Jons]

Can someone help in the forum? How is their A + score if they do not want to pay the winnings?

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Can someone help in the forum? How is their A + score if they do not want to pay the winnings?

If they voided the entire market for unusual betting patterns then I don't think anyone can help. :\

[Jak Jons]

PINNACLE Again deceives and does not pay https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...-scammers.html

[themike78]

The problem is your betting on kids playing video games. If you bet on an actual sport this wouldn't happen.

[Jak Jons]

The problem is your betting on kids playing video games. If you bet on an actual sport this wouldn't happen.

If the bookmaker offers this type of betting, then it means it is dealt with. If they are not rozbirayutsa in this area, then who needs. What would deceive people?

[newton0038]

If the bookmaker offers this type of betting, then it means it is dealt with. If they are not rozbirayutsa in this area, then who needs. What would deceive people?

Was Pinnacle the only book offering odds on said event?? Did other books see an unusual influx of wagers on the event as well?

Pinny works on volume and they wouldnt give back an entire market in voids unless there was an obvious market manipulation.

[newton0038]

Pinnacle is a pretty bad bookie. They are only rated A because they pay in time. Because if we talk about markets and odds they are a F bookie. Super Late odds, no ML in must of Baskeball games or when they open it the odd is ridiculous. I'm not even going to talk about their limits and the low odds on multiples.

Pinny is a volume dealer and most are not betting into the moneyline markets. Most volume is generated on the spread in basketball.

Pinny does take parlays but again, they are volume book for low juice lines. Parlays/multiples are not their bread and butter. American football is a prime eample as the line might be +/-3 on a side but in the parlay options you will see either +2.5 on the dof or -3.5 on the favorite. Pinny parlays are either priced or lined to deter playing them.

[xKMACKx]

The problem is your betting on kids playing video games. If you bet on an actual sport this wouldn't happen.

Not entirely. Small tennis and soccer matches get flagged occasionally.

[energizer]

You didn't "scammed". All the bets for that match were voided, not only for you, but for everybody else. I bet e-sports with Pinnacle regularly.

[Jak Jons]

Was Pinnacle the only book offering odds on said event?? Did other books see an
unusual influx of wagers on the event as well?

Pinny works on volume and they wouldnt give back an entire market in voids unless there was an obvious market manipulation.

in others, the bookmakers calculated normally this bet, I bet in a bookmaker to win the first team and lost

[Optional]

Always an arb player makes threads like this.


People who don't want to gamble to start with and think they are entitled to free money with no risk.

Well this is the risk you chose to take Jak Jones.

Sometimes someone will manipulate or rig a market and it will be cancelled.

The sort of bets you chase would increase the likelyhood of this as well.


No such thing as a free lunch. This is your own responsibility for making bets on opposite sides at different books. It creates this risk.

[Jak Jons]

Pinnacle he himself writes that he welcomes players to arbitration situations. Why then lie at syabya on the site and give refunds on prohibitive situations?

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Pinnacle he himself writes that he welcomes players to arbitration situations. Why then lie at syabya on the site and give refunds on prohibitive situations?

They do welcome arbitrage players.

That does not mean rules about voiding markets should not count.


I do understand your frustration. It's a big issue for arbers where you can lose huge amounts due to it. But I don't think Pinny does this lightly, or to hurt arbers, or so often they look unfair about it.

[Jak Jons]

They do welcome arbitrage players.

That does not mean rules about voiding markets should not count.


I do understand your frustration. It's a big issue for arbers where you can lose huge amounts due to it. But I don't think Pinny does this lightly, or to hurt arbers, or so often they look unfair about it.

Look at the archive of the movement of the line for this event that I put the odds changed both on the victory of one team and on the victory of another. Leaving people bet on both ishoas, is this an arbitration situation and why should it be returned for it ??? If all other bookmakers normally count this event.

[Optional]

Look at the archive of the movement of the line for this event that I put the odds changed both on the victory of one team and on the victory of another. Leaving people bet on both ishoas, is this an arbitration situation and why should it be returned for it ??? If all other bookmakers normally count this event.

The best I can suggest is to explain your situation to Pinny, mention that you bet in good faith over a period of hours, and ask that they make a goodwill restitution of some sort.

No use arguing with them and saying they are wrong, but approaching them as a disappointed customer who understands what has happened but is asking for some good will might.

[Jak Jons]

The best I can suggest is to explain your situation to Pinny, mention that you bet in good faith over a period of hours, and ask that they make a goodwill restitution of some sort.

No use arguing with them and saying they are wrong, but approaching them as a disappointed customer who understands what has happened but is asking for some good will might.

I applied but they do not want to understand it. This is not the first case when they do not pay for arbitrage situations. Look at my messages a few months ago there made a refund on many of them !!!

In other bookmakers there is not so much a situation when they cancel bets.

[lonnie55]

I wonder why Pinni didn't ban you already

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I wonder why Pinni didn't ban you already

I don't think it looks like he has done anything shady in either issue he has posted about.

Just that he does not accept they should have a right to void markets. Which is a natural way to feel really.

[lonnie55]

I don't think it looks like he has done anything shady in either issue he has posted about.

Didn't you read the first page? He systematically takes shots at wrong scorelines, wrong corner stats etc. and whenever he gets caught by Pinni he's accusing them of being cheaters

[Jak Jons]

I wonder why Pinni didn't ban you already

Why should I be banned?
Why should I be banned?

[Jak Jons]

Didn't you read the first page? He systematically takes shots at wrong scorelines, wrong corner stats etc. and whenever he gets caught by Pinni he's accusing them of being cheaters

What was wrong with the e-sports bet ??? They themselves say they welcome the game in arbitration situations so why do they return bets ??

What was wrong with the e-sports bet ???

[Jak Jons]

Didn't you read the first page? He systematically takes shots at wrong scorelines, wrong corner stats etc. and whenever he gets caught by Pinni he's accusing them of being cheaters

If they make a lot of mistakes, then let them fire their employees of fools who don’t look at the bet but only make mistakesIf they make a lot of mistakes, then let them fire their employees of fools who don’t look at the rates but only make mistakes

[lonnie55]

I'm not blaming you for what you're doing, you've got me wrong. I just said I would ban you if I was a manager of Pinnacle.