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  • raiders72001
    Senior Member
    • 08-10-05
    • 11063

    #71
    Originally posted by danwinkler
    Swofty waited too long and gave them the upper hand. You cannot rely on 3rd party arbitrator with this kind of money. It is very likely the decision will go in their favor. But you can scare even a corrupt arbitrator into fair decision if you present your case with the business details of the book in question. How can a arbitrator make fair decision without name of the people, phone numbers and addresses behind the people running the business. In the mean time, the player has provided every single info about him to the book and from what I read, some conflicting info. Not looking good. I hope you atleast get your deposits back to the original address where it was sent from.
    Cloudbet has a sublicense with the arbitrator and pays a fee for the license.
    Last edited by raiders72001; 02-13-19, 09:34 PM.
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    • Optional
      Administrator
      • 06-10-10
      • 60904

      #72
      Originally posted by raiders72001
      Cloudbet has a sublicense with the arbitrator and pays a fee for the license.
      Curacao Egaming is an arbitrator now?

      Sounds like they have just brushed him off to the license issuer.
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      • raiders72001
        Senior Member
        • 08-10-05
        • 11063

        #73
        Originally posted by Optional
        Curacao Egaming is an arbitrator now?

        Sounds like they have just brushed him off to the license issuer.
        yes
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        • raiders72001
          Senior Member
          • 08-10-05
          • 11063

          #74
          Cloudbet stole 38 BTC from a guy that played LIVE roulette. They accused the player of cheating. What's most bothersome is that the player deposited 11 BTC.

          It was posted on Reddit 8 days ago.



          The email from Andy is our final decision on the matter, as such, I have no further information to offer. The balance on the account has been confiscated. It means that your account will stay closed and funds frozen». When I asked, «Frozen means you keep the funds?» The chat joined Steve, and he replied «The funds on the account, as they were accumulated again our terms have been removed from the account. As such, your account has a 0.00 balance and will remain closed. This is our final decision on the matter.
          Last edited by Optional; 02-15-19, 06:13 AM. Reason: Removed link. It would be fine if the info from there was not wrong as usual
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          • littlekona
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-19-15
            • 5242

            #75
            Originally posted by raiders72001
            Cloudbet stole 38 BTC from a guy that played LIVE roulette. They accused the player of cheating. What's most bothersome is that the player deposited 11 BTC.

            It was posted on Reddit 8 days ago.
            They paid him...he filed complaint on ask gambler which assisted him in getting his funds....ask gambler is very transparent with complaints
            Last edited by Optional; 02-15-19, 06:13 AM.
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            • raiders72001
              Senior Member
              • 08-10-05
              • 11063

              #76
              Originally posted by littlekona
              They paid him...he filed complaint on ask gambler which assisted him in getting his funds....ask gambler is very transparent with complaints
              I missed that. Wish Cloudbet would allow binding arbitration through SBR or Ask Gamblers on the 330 BTC case.
              Last edited by Optional; 02-15-19, 06:14 AM.
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              • raiders72001
                Senior Member
                • 08-10-05
                • 11063

                #77
                There are a couple other recent ones. I don't think they've been resolved but I may have missed them too.

                A player has dual citizenship Russia and US. When Cloudbet asked for documents he sent his US documents. When Cloudbet said that US citizens were banned he provided his Russian documents. The player was stiffed for 1.7 BTC.

                A US citizen was on vacation in France. He asked Cloudbet if he could wager while in France, Cloudbet said yes. The player won 4.5 BTC but was stiffed because of being a US citizen. Other guys have been stiffed on claims of multi-accounting.

                I'm not sure if things have changed but I was once playing at Cloudbet. They let US citizens sign up through a US IP but stiff them if they win.
                Last edited by raiders72001; 02-14-19, 01:03 AM.
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                • Swofty
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 02-05-19
                  • 16

                  #78
                  I want to say that the reason cloudbet has delayed this withdrawal is due to some issues with the location of this account. I am in contact with them and they are in the proccess of taking care of this issue. I will update this post as soon as I can. But, as of now I want everyone to know cloudbet is taking care of this as quickly as they can. Sorry for the confusion..

                  Swofty
                  Last edited by Swofty; 02-15-19, 05:24 AM.
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                  • pablo222
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-03-19
                    • 8858

                    #79
                    Originally posted by Swofty
                    I want to say that the reason cloudbet has delayed this withdrawal is due to some issues with the location of this account. I am in contact with them and they are in the proccess of taking care of this issue. I will update this post as soon as I can. But, as of now I want everyone to know cloudbet is taking care of this as quickly as they can. Sorry for the confusion..

                    Swofty
                    This is great to hear. Keep us updated.
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                    • raiders72001
                      Senior Member
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 11063

                      #80
                      Originally posted by Swofty
                      I want to say that the reason cloudbet has delayed this withdrawal is due to some issues with the location of this account. I am in contact with them and they are in the proccess of taking care of this issue. I will update this post as soon as I can. But, as of now I want everyone to know cloudbet is taking care of this as quickly as they can. Sorry for the confusion..

                      Swofty
                      Great news.
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                      • Jared Brooks
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 02-10-17
                        • 152

                        #81
                        Originally posted by Bearrob
                        I have 37k stuck at cloudbet for year. Went so far even paid visit to their "location" in Montenegro which was abandoned house. I went step further and realised that even their license isn't valid, that it's fake so basically they can do whatever they want
                        Don't let limits and offer lure you into trap, it's just moment when they will steal from you. There is plenty reports of that on other forums as well so be careful with them.
                        You are a legend!

                        Based on the comments in this thread, I will be avoiding Cloudbet.
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                        • Limited
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 09-18-15
                          • 303

                          #82
                          Internet is full of them, so yeah, probably better to stay away.
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                          • littlekona
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-19-15
                            • 5242

                            #83
                            One thing I wish SBR would do is a dash board style for complaints grouped per site like ask gambler has...Transparent with communication from both parties along with time frame deadlines along with resolution's info...
                            Last edited by Optional; 02-17-19, 03:58 AM. Reason: link
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                            • Swofty
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 02-05-19
                              • 16

                              #84
                              Cloudbet will resolve the case. And I will be back when got update. But they are doing their best to solve the case. And they should do the right thing too. Props to them.



                              Swofty
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                              • cashin81
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-10-14
                                • 12946

                                #85
                                Damn man. Good luck with it.
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                                • DroopyDog
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-03-16
                                  • 1255

                                  #86
                                  Swofty has posted elsewhere that he was paid in full today
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                                  • danwinkler
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 05-22-18
                                    • 461

                                    #87
                                    Cloudbet has so many unresolved issues with withdrawals ranging from 1 bitcoin to 40 bitcoins. This should be further investigated. I am starting to wonder if this is an elaborate attempt by cloudbet to get big players to deposit money, especially Americans. Swofty characted created new username everywhere with this issue, danced around and they paid him 330 even though he was willing to take only 150. Right.

                                    Quadrigacx created many stories like this and everyone swallowed it and kept putting money in quadragacx and they ran.

                                    I would be very careful if you are a highroller and tempted to deposit money at cloudbet, especially because of that 5 bitcoin bonus. There are numerous unresolved withdrawal cases in cloud bet. Now the google search result or any search result will bring up this happy ended 330 bitocoin payout story in the first few pages instead of those unresolved issues.

                                    - So they gave the decision to curacio arbitrator.
                                    - player admits he played from usa and lied with identity
                                    - arbitrator is out of the picture
                                    - cloudbet still pays everything

                                    ye aright.
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                                    • Motorhead11
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 09-04-18
                                      • 238

                                      #88
                                      Player has paid in full. Per Askgamblers site.
                                      Last edited by Optional; 02-25-19, 06:22 AM. Reason: remove link
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                                      • OVAKUL
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-16-17
                                        • 1538

                                        #89
                                        I would lose my mind with 3.30 BTC balance never mind 33 or 330!!! Can OP please confirm all is well now? A picture from a cruise ship would be nice, champaigne etc lol
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                                        • crazyivan24
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 12-15-09
                                          • 176

                                          #90
                                          Is Nitrogen safe to use now? considering I see so many negative posts on Nitrogen on this SBR forum

                                          Originally posted by littlekona
                                          Wow, that is nutz to have so much without doing research. Good luck as that is HUGE OP....For Btc you have to use Nirtogen, fairlay or Betcoin period!
                                          Can SBR please update the in BTC held books. Fairlay should be added and Cloudbet (B-) needs a major down grade as does Jetwin(C+).
                                          Here is my btc exclusive grades:
                                          Nitrogen A
                                          Fairlay B
                                          Betcoin B
                                          BetcoinRush C
                                          Sportbet.IO D
                                          Cloudbet D
                                          Jetwin D
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                                          • littlekona
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-19-15
                                            • 5242

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by crazyivan24
                                            Is Nitrogen safe to use now? considering I see so many negative posts on Nitrogen on this SBR forum
                                            yes it is 100% safe IMO. Just not this morning as they are doing maintenance for few more hours
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                                            • eaglesfan371
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-08-19
                                              • 4079

                                              #92
                                              It’s safe but if you like money, it’s dumb to play there instead of other, better options.
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                                              • lonnie55
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-08-16
                                                • 2689

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by littlekona
                                                yes it is 100% safe IMO.
                                                Remove the term '100% safe' out of your vocabulary whenever you talk about sports betting
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                                                • danshan11
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-08-17
                                                  • 4101

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by eaglesfan371
                                                  It’s safe but if you like money, it’s dumb to play there instead of other, better options.
                                                  this is true on most things but in reality Nitro does have some good lines on some things for sure!
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                                                  • player1990
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 08-31-15
                                                    • 28

                                                    #95
                                                    any good bonus for btc sportsbooks?
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                                                    • Optional
                                                      Administrator
                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                      • 60904

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by player1990
                                                      any good bonus for btc sportsbooks?
                                                      Bitcoin Book Bonus List
                                                      .
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                                                      • littlekona
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 11-19-15
                                                        • 5242

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by player1990
                                                        any good bonus for btc sportsbooks?
                                                        For "bonus" Nitrogen has excellent free play offering almost weekly.. They promote these and have monthly like now they have NBA and NHL...No rollovers to on freeplays....https://blog.nitrogensports.eu/promo...nt=slim_banner
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                                                        • JoeCool20
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-31-18
                                                          • 4440

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by littlekona
                                                          For "bonus" Nitrogen has excellent free play offering almost weekly.. They promote these and have monthly like now they have NBA and NHL...No rollovers to on freeplays....https://blog.nitrogensports.eu/promo...nt=slim_banner



                                                          LOL So a 6 leg parlay getting the bet returned as a free play is an "excellent" offer to you? OK then! To each his own!
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                                                          • raiders72001
                                                            Senior Member
                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 11063

                                                            #99
                                                            Nitrogen is really good with their promos and contests. They had a free NCAA bracket and free squares for the Super Bowl. They have promos for the NBA/NHL playoffs going on now.
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                                                            • acegilz
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 10-28-09
                                                              • 57

                                                              #100
                                                              Wow, I can't imagine how much money one has to have, to deposit 300k$ into a Bitcoin Sportsbook.

                                                              Althought you should receive the 300btc, I hope you can at least recover the initial deposit.

                                                              This post reminded me few years ago (2013/2014) another history of a user who was having problems cashing out 1000+bitcoins from Nitrogen (also approx 1 Million $ at that time), I can't recall how that story ended.

                                                              Edit:Ok, it was not 1000, but 7k+ Bitcoin..... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1571870.0
                                                              Last edited by acegilz; 04-18-19, 11:47 AM.
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                                                              • eaglesfan371
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-08-19
                                                                • 4079

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by acegilz
                                                                Wow, I can't imagine how much money one has to have, to deposit 300k$ into a Bitcoin Sportsbook.

                                                                Althought you should receive the 300btc, I hope you can at least recover the initial deposit.

                                                                This post reminded me few years ago (2013/2014) another history of a user who was having problems cashing out 1000+bitcoins from Nitrogen (also approx 1 Million $ at that time), I can't recall how that story ended.

                                                                Edit:Ok, it was not 1000, but 7k+ Bitcoin..... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1571870.0
                                                                There are entities on the blockchain that send those micro txs to addresses involved in large bitcoin transactions. Nitrogen’s platform is set up so that you can only withdraw your balance when all deposits are confirmed. That does not look like a slowpay but they definitely did not handle it properly. Obviously a few satoshis are not going to affect the 600 bitcoin balance even if those micros were “double spent”.

                                                                Nitrogen is trustworthy. They always pay out. However they are no longer the best book as they offer pinnacle lines plus minimum 2 cents of juice on each side. With fairlay and fiat books offering reduced juice, much better options out there unless you are a parlay bettor (then Nitro could be best since they offer a lot of parlay promos).
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