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  • Crayzee
    SBR MVP
    • 10-27-06
    • 4945

    #1
    So who is betting legally in NJ?
    Which books do you like / dislike?

    I'vebeen mainly with draft kings since they were the first on line
    the logging out and checking locations gets frustrating
  • ki dice
    SBR MVP
    • 10-31-14
    • 1178

    #2
    Not New Jersey but I been twin river in Rhode Island.What a great feeling cashing in a ticket for 1000,and no questions asked.penetrate waiting for a check/moneyorder.no more penetrating waiting for a payout to be processed penetrate offshore.send id utility bill to verify account.Verify penetrating this here damn like pulling teeth to get paid.penetrate offshore
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    • ki dice
      SBR MVP
      • 10-31-14
      • 1178

      #3
      They pay with a smile on there face
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      • Crusherrr
        SBR MVP
        • 06-27-16
        • 3649

        #4
        Originally posted by ki dice
        Not New Jersey but I been twin river in Rhode Island.What a great feeling cashing in a ticket for 1000,and no questions asked.penetrate waiting for a check/moneyorder.no more penetrating waiting for a payout to be processed penetrate offshore.send id utility bill to verify account.Verify penetrating this here damn like pulling teeth to get paid.penetrate offshore
        I mean, bitcoin/crypto allows you to get cash same day and there are no checks or money orders. I've had legal books give me more trouble than offshore. Income verification, proof of address, social security number. Bigger headache for worse lines. Offshore still better.
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        • ki dice
          SBR MVP
          • 10-31-14
          • 1178

          #5
          anything over 10,000 they ask Id
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          • Chiefs83
            SBR MVP
            • 08-01-16
            • 2809

            #6
            DraftKings, FanDuel,and Betstars didn’t ask for documents on payouts
            Ceasars documents
            All have great bonuses.
            Sugarhouse had trouble depositing so never played there. That was months ago.

            WILLIAM HILL my Worst Experience Free Rolled ME
            Didn’t honor there promo, had to pull teeth to get just a free 100 and then i make a live bet on Raiders Steelers. My bet was on Raiders +5.5. It doesn’t accept or deny my wager for over 5 min. I think there’s something wrong on my end, so during this time I log out and log back in and it’s still waiting to accept or decline my bet. Needless to say after Raiders scored a TD and the Steelers punted my bet wasn’t accepted. So I call and there response was, Yes we know about it we ve been having that problem a lot today. We’re trying to fix it. I asked them how they would compensate me and how can anyone live bet if this is happening all day. There response was sorry nothing we can do about it. After that shot they took at me done with William Hill forever. And when you do cash out want documents and limited payout options.
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 61457

              #7
              Originally posted by Chiefs83
              And when you do cash out want documents and limited payout options.
              If you bet online only, legal US betting is going to mean a lot more personal info and documents than offshore bettors have been used to. At every book.
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              • NYproGambler
                SBR High Roller
                • 12-11-18
                • 178

                #8
                Originally posted by ki dice
                anything over 10,000 they ask Id
                So they are operating same way as vegas... In nj, i bet $1000 at ocean resort and they made me join their some sort of membership and asked for id. Without it, they wouldnt let me bet.
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  Legal places withdrawals from apps in person photo ID at counter
                  Online probably just have to do once

                  William Hill you need a card any bet over $1000 at counter, terrible book

                  Pros and cons to everything legal and offshore
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                  • bubba
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-29-05
                    • 2432

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Optional
                    If you bet online only, legal US betting is going to mean a lot more personal info and documents than offshore bettors have been used to. At every book.
                    False. Dont even remember if I had to send my ID for a withdrawal from NJ book (pretty sure not). Certainly nothing else was asked for. So it's not a lot more documents than offshore.
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                    • Shifty
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 08-10-08
                      • 558

                      #11
                      Most NJ books ask for ID to cashout from online betting account. Some also ask for voided check or bank statement. Betting in person at Fanduel Meadowlands they require ID or your player card for $2000+.
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                      • Shifty
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 08-10-08
                        • 558

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Chiefs83
                        DraftKings, FanDuel,and Betstars didn’t ask for documents on payouts
                        Ceasars documents
                        All have great bonuses.
                        Sugarhouse had trouble depositing so never played there. That was months ago.

                        WILLIAM HILL my Worst Experience Free Rolled ME
                        Didn’t honor there promo, had to pull teeth to get just a free 100 and then i make a live bet on Raiders Steelers. My bet was on Raiders +5.5. It doesn’t accept or deny my wager for over 5 min. I think there’s something wrong on my end, so during this time I log out and log back in and it’s still waiting to accept or decline my bet. Needless to say after Raiders scored a TD and the Steelers punted my bet wasn’t accepted. So I call and there response was, Yes we know about it we ve been having that problem a lot today. We’re trying to fix it. I asked them how they would compensate me and how can anyone live bet if this is happening all day. There response was sorry nothing we can do about it. After that shot they took at me done with William Hill forever. And when you do cash out want documents and limited payout options.
                        Major problem with Will Hill is that every bet is subject to approval. Not just live betting but any bet over a certain amount. I wouldn't trust them with a live bet. Warning to anyone who plays there, never place a large subject to approval bet a few minutes before game time. Your bet could still be in their approval queue after the game starts. You won't know if you have action or if the bet timed out or they rejected it.
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 61457

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bubba

                          False. Dont even remember if I had to send my ID for a withdrawal from NJ book (pretty sure not). Certainly nothing else was asked for. So it's not a lot more documents than offshore.
                          If you want to start trolling me Bubba, at least pick something you have some knowledge about

                          USA is still party to international agreements about money laundering and terrorism prevention.

                          If you bet online only, they will all be legally forced to KYC you in the same way as other legal jurisdiction books are forced to.
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                          • ki dice
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-31-14
                            • 1178

                            #14
                            At the counter at twin river in Rhode Island they don’t ask for any Id or documents.I cashed in thousands already.On the back of the ticket they have a line to put you’re name but they never ask.Also they have no app yet but let me tell you doing this a long time no better feeling just like Vegas puttting 2grand winnin and getting paid no questions asked they don’t give a penetrate like offshore they pay with a smile trust me
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                            • bubba
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-29-05
                              • 2432

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Optional
                              If you want to start trolling me Bubba, at least pick something you have some knowledge about

                              USA is still party to international agreements about money laundering and terrorism prevention.

                              If you bet online only, they will all be legally forced to KYC you in the same way as other legal jurisdiction books are forced to.
                              So you are saying I am lying? That both New Jersey sports books I withdraw from asked for documentation????

                              I am 99% sure neither asked for my id but maybe they had it on file. I am 100% sure that none asked for anything more than that. So your statement that "a lot more documents"are needed than offshore is either grossly misinformed or an outright lie. I assume just misinformed.
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                              • Debacleov
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 11-25-18
                                • 223

                                #16
                                My cousins neighbor went there and was boning some ugly bartender who placed a bet somewhere

                                Who the penetrate cares whos betting there

                                From this point forward you keep your pussy shut until told otherwise
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                                • bubba
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-29-05
                                  • 2432

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                  If you want to start trolling me Bubba, at least pick something you have some knowledge about

                                  USA is still party to international agreements about money laundering and terrorism prevention.

                                  If you bet online only, they will all be legally forced to KYC you in the same way as other legal jurisdiction books are forced to.
                                  Your statement that more personal info is needed may be truthful. I dont remember when signing up if they asked for my social. They may have. So maybe that parts true. But more documents than offshore? As of last week, its flat out false.
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                                  • Optional
                                    Administrator
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 61457

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bubba
                                    Your statement that more personal info is needed may be truthful. I dont remember when signing up if they asked for my social. They may have. So maybe that parts true. But more documents than offshore? As of last week, its flat out false.
                                    It's different over the counter.

                                    If you want to just bet online eventually you will find people are asked for surprising amounts of personal info. Like where their money comes from.

                                    America may not end up as bad as the UK in the end. But the normal KYC rules in other mature legal markets are kind of horrible compared to offshore.
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                                    • pologq
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-07-12
                                      • 19899

                                      #19
                                      i have friends who drive over the border (I am in NY) just to bet with Fanduel and Draftkings on Sundays. Most prefer Fanduel.
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                                      • bubba
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-29-05
                                        • 2432

                                        #20
                                        3rd new jersey book did ask for documents from me for a withdrawl. 2 asked for none, 1 asked for 2 items. I think it may actually be the method chosen that reflects it, not the actual sportsbook.
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                                        • acquavallo
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 03-16-18
                                          • 350

                                          #21
                                          NJ apps ask for social to sign up, no exception. If not all, many not only verify it, but do credit check + run against casino databases & full criminal check...this all only takes a few seconds while the globe is circling during signup.
                                          Additionally, self-service kiosk & teller cameras are DHS facial recognition standard, to prevent structuring for NOT ONLY tax / AML reasons, but VERY IMPORTANT- subverting BETTING MAXIMUMS.
                                          As an aside, Betfair NJ Xchange requires not only ID but as well NJ residency proof such as a utility bill.

                                          These bet takers are investing too much money for too little return. They want to minimize risk to their license, plus betting losses.
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                                          • Optional
                                            Administrator
                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 61457

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by bubba
                                            3rd new jersey book did ask for documents from me for a withdrawl. 2 asked for none, 1 asked for 2 items. I think it may actually be the method chosen that reflects it, not the actual sportsbook.
                                            If they can verify you electronically from sources like aquavello mentioned, you normally won't be asked for much.

                                            In UK and Australia if you are enrolled on the electoral roll at the same address you give and use a C card, they don't have to ask you for any further ID.

                                            But if I start betting large amounts, they are supposed to ask me how i can afford it. Books have been given $MIL+ size fines quite a few times for not doing this to people who were either embezzling money to bet or laundering criminal funds or just had a bad betting problem and lost the family home for example.
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