Vip-ibc

[Ruifgalmeida]

Could you guys give feedback

[Alfie White]

Very high fees, they charge on absolutely everything - might as well send them €10 every time you send an email lol.

Heard they have recently added commission on all bets placed via Molly tool, which is appalling for me at least.

[infotimbo]

Heard they have recently added commission on all bets placed via Molly tool, which is appalling for me at least.

They have had fees on the tool right from the start. To be fair, in return you get higher limits though.

Generally, I think it's okay to use them, payments are quick and so on. But personally I never really felt comfortable with them.

[Motorhead11]

They have had fees on the tool right from the start. To be fair, in return you get higher limits though.

Generally, I think it's okay to use them, payments are quick and so on. But personally I never really felt comfortable with them.

Can you be more spesific about limits mate? Their sbo/pinnacle/ibc limits differ from rest mollybet agents?

[infotimbo]

Can you be more spesific about limits mate? Their sbo/pinnacle/ibc limits differ from rest mollybet agents?

yes, (if they didn't change that recently) there's a 0,75% fee on every bet you place on the VIP-IBC tool, taken from the return.

So you're basically placing bets @1,985 instead of @2, for example

edit: ah, sorry, you were talking about the limits, not fees. Yes, afaik they still have normal Pinnacle limits, while the others have those from Pin Bet (50%)

[Motorhead11]

Thanks mate for your explanation.

What are the limits on sbobet and ibc? Are they reduced or they have bigger limits that rest agents?

[Ruifgalmeida]

They have had fees on the tool right from the start. To be fair, in return you get higher limits though.

Generally, I think it's okay to use them, payments are quick and so on. But personally I never really felt comfortable with them.

why did you never felt comfortable with them? arent they safe?

[lonnie55]

why did you never felt comfortable with them? arent they safe?

they are related to acc-ex, a "professional" site which sells private bet365 accounts can never be deemed serious in my eyes

[infotimbo]

why did you never felt comfortable with them? arent they safe?

They have been around for plenty of years, so I wouldn't go that far, but there often was a complete lack of information (in terms of changes at bookies, fees, and so on) and when talking to them, I just never really felt welcome.

There wasn't any major problem. But for example when Sbobet changed the policies to 50% share, they closed all winning accounts and kept the (over a certain time) losing ones open at 100% - just to close them later on, when they started to become profitable again. I can't say for certain, nor really blame them for that, but to me that looked like they tried to make quick money by taking parts of the the risk on those accounts themself.

For a time they were also advertising bet365 agency by e-mail, which I am not sure a trustworthy agent would do. So in the end I just felt like I'd be better off elsewhere.

@motorhead11: I don't know about the sbobet/ibc limits at vip-ibc as I don't have access to my old account anymore. I may be able to ask a friend later on though.

[Motorhead11]

Thanks for the info's mate. The reason i never tried them is the acc-ex.com sister site. Got a feeling this will not end in good tbh (mean the acc-ex.com)

[Yulia74]

Can you be more spesific about limits mate? Their sbo/pinnacle/ibc limits differ from rest mollybet agents?

when I played there the limits were not higher than the limits those 3 books offered to their regular users

[Optional]

why did you never felt comfortable with them? arent they safe?

they are related to acc-ex, a "professional" site which sells private bet365 accounts can never be deemed serious in my eyes

I do not trust them AT ALL for the same basic reason.

Using an agent at all you are adding risk. Choosing one with ethics this bad is asking for trouble.

[infotimbo]

Thanks mate for your explanation.
What are the limits on sbobet and ibc? Are they reduced or they have bigger limits that rest agents?

I don't know about the sbobet/ibc limits at vip-ibc as I don't have access to my old account anymore. I may be able to ask a friend later on though.

here's the comparison for a random Chinese football match about to start (Changchun AHC+0, to be precisely). VIP-IBC on the left, Sportmarket Pro on the right:
604 EUR - IBC - 604 EUR
10000 EUR - ISN - 10167 EUR
2628 EUR - pin - 1314 EUR
1314 EUR - pin88 - /
474 EUR - sbo - 355 EUR
3876 EUR - sing2 - 3876 EUR

[Motorhead11]

here's the comparison for a random Chinese football match about to start (Changchun AHC+0, to be precisely). VIP-IBC on the left, Sportmarket Pro on the right:
604 EUR - IBC - 604 EUR
10000 EUR - ISN - 10167 EUR
2628 EUR - pin - 1314 EUR
1314 EUR - pin88 - /
474 EUR - sbo - 355 EUR
3876 EUR - sing2 - 3876 EUR

Thanks a lot for the info mate, this is what i was looking for.
One last question: The 0,75% fee is applied on all bets or on the bets taken on Pinnacle?

[infotimbo]

Thanks a lot for the info mate, this is what i was looking for.
One last question: The 0,75% fee is applied on all bets or on the bets taken on Pinnacle?

on all bets

[LRBC]

So, they have way worse odds them the other mollybet agents?

[Alfie White]

Yes, lol.

It might look as small amount, but given that mostly big punters use Molly tool, it ramps up quite a bit. You pay fee for deposit, commission on all bets and then you pay fee for withdrawal again. Stealing funds in broad daylight...

Good riddance for me anyway.

Oh yea, another thing:

2628 EUR - pin - 1314 EUR1314 EUR - pin88 - /

This doesn't mean that you would be able to bet 3942 EUR as pin88/pin are connected and maxing one limit would lower the odds on both Pin and Pin88 given that those are the same thing.

[Motorhead11]

on all bets

Thanks for the info mate.

[king7811]

im with them for years and I cant say they are cheap in fees,but never had any problem with them when it comes to payouts.u can now just disable pin88 and u will get matched always only at pinnacle

[Alfie White]

Just wanted to share that on other forum there is a thread now regarding BET-IBC and customer having massive problems with his 5-figure amount that he used on "their" Betfair account. Betfair said they are not collaborating with BET-IBC etc etc... I don't want to provide the link, not sure if I can anyway(?), but just another proof of very shady dealings this broker does...

So bad.

[lonnie55]

Definitely treat with caution.

[Yulia74]

would rather play at premium tradings, lower fees

[Sawyer]

Asian Connect and Betinasia are more reliable then Premium Tradings.

[craftbrewer]

Asian Connect and Betinasia are more reliable then Premium Tradings.

Are you sure BetinAsia are reliable? There is not much feedback from their customers in the internet. They seem to be new in this business. So I don't trust them.

[Alfie White]

AC had that venture with not paying a guy for months, just a week ago and they use private paysafe accounts, which can't really be super reliable + circus license on Curacao. No-no for me.

As for BIA, I have come across the fact that they offer 2 ticks lower odds unless you are referred by someone, only then you can the have odds which are the same as on the actual bookmaker ones, so they are unreliable and stealing from customers as well.