No personal information just the FACTS of the case...
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This is why I deposit with ** or **... No worries about proving shit!Comment -
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i answer your questions right away- but when i ask legit questions, Its a ghost town while wait for excuses.Comment -
that was not for you themajormt. that was for the people saying this and that.
I more then proved to justin this was an authorized transaction.Comment -
I won't disclose any names, but I will disclose additional facts as necessary.
I reread the emails, even the ones I received AFTER I withdrew from the complaint.
SIA promised to pay you if you could verify that you were the authorized card holder. You used a card that was in your husband's name. You (meaning the the wife who made the complaint) submitted documentation for the husband. But the husband is not the one who used the cc - it was the wife.
I explained exactly what you would need to do to win this dispute: you would need to have your credit card issuer confirm that you were an authorized user of that card. This was the issue of fact to resolve. If you can prove that you were authorized to use that card (meaning your credit card had your name on that account), you can still salvage this. If you can't, it does not matter what accounts you share with your husband. If you challenge the charge, and SIA submits a wife's signature instead of the husband's, the bank won't honor it. This is why many books don't allow third party deposits.
Now, if you were an authorized user of the card, you're not a third party. So this takes us back to... Were you an authorized user of the card when you made the deposit?Comment -
Hopefully he will post the facts and then we can all form an opinion... I can honestly say that probably 95% of the disputes I have seen in here that I have agreed with the majority and/or SBR. Sometimes the rules arent player friendly but the majority of them are in the best interests of all involved and works out in the end...Comment -
Justin, maybe she is confused as to what "authorized user" means... I understand it as a LEGAL contract with the bank granting authorization for the wife to use the card with no restrictions. NOT, the husband saying, "Here honey, go by yourself something nice...."Comment -
Justin- I copied what SIA said about 3rd party cards-
but yes I am an authorized user, but my card with that bank has a different number- so does that mean you dont think I deserve to get paid???
reread their 3rd party email to me. THEY EXCEPT THEM., so either way I get paid. right????
they said as long as 3rd party sends the forms its cool.
read it!!!!! cComment -
christ people- read it. i copied and pasted it!!! read it please for the love of christ!Comment -
Thank you for being a member of Sports Interaction.
Our records show that there has been a deposit made to your Sports Interaction account through the use of third party funding via credit card and this is not permitted by our Terms & Conditions.
As a result, the credit card number 4131********2986 has been blacklisted. In order to gain access to your winnings and/or the use of the card, we require the following documents:
1. A valid photo ID from the card holder (ex. passport, driver's license, etc.) Your name, date of birth and the expiry date must be clearly visible. Note: All other information may be hidden, for security purposes. However, it is suggested that the address be left visible.
2. The front and back of the credit/debit card, signed, with all sides visible, and with all information clear and legible, such as name and credit card number. Note: You may cover the middle eight digits of the credit card number, as well as the CVV number on the back, for security purposes.
3. The top portion of the cardholder's credit/debit card statement with your name, address and the date clearly visible. Note: You may cover the middle eight digits of the credit card number, as well as any other information, for security purposes.
4. The signed Liability Claim form by the cardholder and/or yourself to allow the card holder as a secondary account holder on your account. The form is attached to this e-mail.
If you and the cardholder wish to keep the credit card on your account and continue to use the card, the card holder and you must sign and date the Liability Claim form in order to enter the card holder as a secondary account holder on your account.
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what more god damn info do you need! this is ridiculous.Comment -
Mel,
Since you chose to air this dispute in the public forum, as a non-interested third party, I will give my opinion from an unbiased perspective:
Where you are wrong:
It is actions and attitudes like yours that cause the rest of us to go through 1,999 rules about bonuses, deposits, and withdrawals. Why not use your card instead of your husbands? Why use a card at all? Why not use ** or ** and be done with it? There is little doubt in my mind that if you had lost, you would have claimed unauthorized usage and made a **********.
Where the book is at fault:
The book is at fault for even accepting the deposit, and I find that in a majority of these cases, if the book would have spent as much time investigating a deposit as they spend investigating when it is time to payout, there would be a lot less of these disputes. But no, get the money, and then we'll find a reason not to pay..... that is what needs changed in this industry.Comment -
I understand both points.
plus read their rules that were emaled to me about 3rd party- its totally acceptable.
they allow it and everyone is saying they dont.
I copied and pasted the email.
thanks mtneer though. I liked your thoughts.Comment -
but my attitude was fine up until tuesday. this has been insane.Comment -
where are you at justin? they take 3rd party bud. I fowarded the email to you and copied and pasted it here.
cant they honor that? cant you put your foot down on them? would love foryou to rengage.
you are more then welcome. lets see if you step in.Comment -
You asked Justin to stop helping you. What do you want now?Comment -
well he said that he would get me paid if i did those things -
lets see him step up.
I will always call you out on what you say you will do- so durito lose your smart ass attitude.Comment -
some of you are so helpful and then some of you are just such toolsComment -
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So what you're saying is that SIA has a special form for 3rd-party CC transactions. Would you please upload/link that form so we can see what it says?Comment -
that was the email...let me go back and look and see if there is one-
OR CAN WE ALL QUESTION WHY THEY EMAILED ME THAT BULLSHIT LIE?
can someone step in and get these assholes to pay up? they started this crap by emailing me and saying I can play even after what happendd to my husband.
can someone step up for me? thanksComment -
Perhaps you should try covers.com/index.aspx?t=0 They are a sponsor there. Good luck, you'll need it.
SBR rates SIA D+, or to be avoided. (to be fair, that rating is too low, but nevertheless that is SBR's suggestion)Comment -
thanks- i know i am not getting paid.
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would be nice if justin honored his word.
whatever you needed I provided justin. i'm here if you have anything for me.
or email me-
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Justin, should I copy and paste the email you sent me when you basically told SIA that you consider this matter closed and not to pay me? Why did you do that? Cause you got offended when I said that I didn't need you on the case? You have all the evidence in your face and you were siding with scamsia.com. I have all the evidence anyone needs. Hell, I am the only one producing any. You tell me what you want on this site and I will produce it on this forum. What do you want? Emails from who? What proof that I already haven't given. I will give it. Justin won't respond. He has everthing he needs to close the deal the correct way. Why not do it?Comment -
melinsurance,
I was reviewing SIA's decision. They provided proof that you were not an authorized user of the credit card you used to deposit. There was one issue of fact: were you an authorized user. I asked for this repeatedly. You never gave me this, and asked me to withdraw from the case. I have withdrawn, and consider it closed. I didn't tell SIA not to pay you - I'm simply allowing you to pursue this on your own. With the evidence I've seen so far, they are within their rights to not pay the winnings, and refund the deposit to the card.Comment -
justin HOW COME YOU KEEP AVOIDING THIS FACT- Did you see the email they sent that says they accept 3rd party cards? since you dont count me and my husband on the same account with different card numbers as "authorized user" then fine, call it a 3 rd party transfer.
In that case- refer to the email that I sent you and copied the whole earth on this thread.
The part where it states they do accept it all they need is the info!!!!
just answer that for me.Comment -
melinsurance,
I don't see the email you're referring to. Feel free to post it (after editing out names and email addresses).Comment -
She is referring to this post:
Which appears to me to suggest that they would in fact permit such a deposit.Thank you for being a member of Sports Interaction.
Our records show that there has been a deposit made to your Sports Interaction account through the use of third party funding via credit card and this is not permitted by our Terms & Conditions.
As a result, the credit card number 4131********2986 has been blacklisted. In order to gain access to your winnings and/or the use of the card, we require the following documents:
1. A valid photo ID from the card holder (ex. passport, driver's license, etc.) Your name, date of birth and the expiry date must be clearly visible. Note: All other information may be hidden, for security purposes. However, it is suggested that the address be left visible.
2. The front and back of the credit/debit card, signed, with all sides visible, and with all information clear and legible, such as name and credit card number. Note: You may cover the middle eight digits of the credit card number, as well as the CVV number on the back, for security purposes.
3. The top portion of the cardholder's credit/debit card statement with your name, address and the date clearly visible. Note: You may cover the middle eight digits of the credit card number, as well as any other information, for security purposes.
4. The signed Liability Claim form by the cardholder and/or yourself to allow the card holder as a secondary account holder on your account. The form is attached to this e-mail.
If you and the cardholder wish to keep the credit card on your account and continue to use the card, the card holder and you must sign and date the Liability Claim form in order to enter the card holder as a secondary account holder on your account.Comment -
people I have the attachment they sent me as welll. I will be glad to email it to any of you. I will email you the whole entire email with the attachment all from Jordan at SIA.
Can I send an attachment on here? it is a liability form.
I want you all to see it. I sent it to Justin earlier today. He didnt even care to look at it apparently.Comment -
ok folks I can not attach the file because it is a word document and I do not have it on the computer that I am on. Justin, will you please attach it for us either in a new threat title or if you can, right here. I want everyone to see it. Or I can email it to you all if you give me your address. The form has the sportsinteractio.com symbol on the top left and the whole form is for me and my husband or whoever wants to put a credit card on file to agree that it is ok.
ITs in plain english! Joseph from SIA sent it to me. PLease read that and the email I posted and put 2 and 2 together. There is no other way to see it. Thanks!!!! They all just want me to go away so they dont have to pay, but its a scam and they shouldnt!Comment
