Supreme Court just ruined sports betting

[BigdaddyQH]

Tell u what just because I know u don't win shit here's a free week of picks for u

Week 1
Bears +10
Trap game raiders will upset Rams.
Best of luck go ahead and let Uncle Sam tax u on ur winnings instead of playing with a solid bookie or offshore account. ������ Ur a joke dude

More proof that you are a liar. The line for the Bears is not 10 points. It is between 8 1/2 and 9 points. This is a perfect example of what liars like you do. Try to claim that you got an extra point or two so you increase your chances of not losing your wager. Now take a hike loser.

[flyingcarbs]

More proof that you are a liar. The line for the Bears is not 10 points. It is between 8 1/2 and 9 points. This is a perfect example of what liars like you do. Try to claim that you got an extra point or two so you increase your chances of not losing your wager. Now take a hike loser.

Thats why I stopped replying to the bozo, hilarious to see this thread bumped and everyone clowning on this ass.

[big joe 1212]

What about the athletes and coaches who have to answer the media questions after the game. They will be getting questions about the spread now since it's all legal.

Why did you kick the FG instead of going for the TD? Trying to cover the spread? Etc. etc.

[jjgold]

Offshore in drivers seat

[turkkatarian]

Offshore in drivers seat

You're kidding right? How much do they pay you to Lobby? Offshore soon to be dead as soon as USA books open up online and apps are downloaded then its RUNNNN from offshore fast like.

[mrpapageorgio]

You're kidding right? How much do they pay you to Lobby?

Apparently a lot

[bugsy711]

You are a phony and I am calling you out. Only a complete and total dumb arse talks about all the money they have won in here. I had your IP address traced and then had you checked out. I suppose you have never heard of that. People like you do have some knowledge and talk a good game, but ALWAYS give themselves away. You are financially worthless. If you think that the MGM has one of the three best sports books in Vegas, you are crazy. Now go take your lies and opinions and tell them to someone who cares. You will not find that person in here. DO NOT try to Bull S**t people in here again.

You tracked my IP address u are a corny @$$ nobody dude. U know how stupid u sound saying that 😂😂😂😂 I never once said a word about how I gamble until someone assumed all I do is lose. What's so funny to me is someone says they do very well and they win and people go crazy start saying the dudes a liar. Lmao man that's how I know u guys are a bunch of degenerates. I do very well betting football I don't have to prove $H1T to u and when that line came out on bears and Packers when it was first posted it was 10.. and it's on 5dimes at +9.5 right now so check up on your $hit before u just try to call people out. Your a corny @$$ nobody. Understand I didn't come on here bragging about anything once someone calls me out I'm gonna address it..

[HedgeHog]

You tracked my IP address u are a corny @$$ nobody dude. U know how stupid u sound saying that  I never once said a word about how I gamble until someone assumed all I do is lose. What's so funny to me is someone says they do very well and they win and people go crazy start saying the dudes a liar. Lmao man that's how I know u guys are a bunch of degenerates. I do very well betting football I don't have to prove $H1T to u and when that line came out on bears and Packers when it was first posted it was 10.. and it's on 5dimes at +9.5 right now so check up on your $hit before u just try to call people out. Your a corny @$$ nobody. Understand I didn't come on here bragging about anything once someone calls me out I'm gonna address it..

The line is 8, so maybe you should cut the BS. The 9.5 line you quote is the juiced up line (-122) used mainly for teasers. You are a shady POS.

Chicago Bears at Green Bay Packers - Week 1
Sun 9/9		477 Chicago Bears	+9½ -122	+325	o48 -107
8:20PM		478 Green Bay Packers	-9½ +108	-370	u48 -107
Sun 9/9		477 Chicago Bears	+8 -110
8:20PM		478 Green Bay Packers	-8 -110

[FullStrength]

This is a terrible day... The federal ban being lifted will ruin sports..there will be no more integrity.. games are fixed now but not to the level of what's yet to come. Might as well start betting on wwf. Chris Christie is a jagoff. Terrible day for people like us that aren't scared to trust offshore accounts

What the hell are you talking about?

[mrpapageorgio]

What the hell are you talking about?

He thinks that because average Joe will now bet with their $50 bets, there will be more fixing in sports because those average Joes will be too tempting with their $20 bribes to players to throw a game. Pay no attention to the fact that the big shady bettors who would have the means of fixing a game have already been betting for years.

[bugsy711]

He thinks that because average Joe will now bet with their $50 bets, there will be more fixing in sports because those average Joes will be too tempting with their $20 bribes to players to throw a game. Pay no attention to the fact that the big shady bettors who would have the means of fixing a game have already been betting for years.

One track mind... Your an idiot to not see the big picture of the Government getting involved in the sport industry.. you just walk around this world with your eyes closed... People with your mindset is what's wrong with society today

[mrpapageorgio]

One track mind... Your an idiot to not see the big picture of the Government getting involved in the sport industry.. you just walk around this world with your eyes closed... People with your mindset is what's wrong with society today

If you're such a genius and know everything, why don't you explain how the government will get involved and rig games when they could rig games now with offshore? Why hasn't the CIA and FBI been betting games already offshore and with syndicates and throwing games to make sure those bets win? Or is your tinfoil hat not tight enough yet?

[bugsy711]

If you're such a genius and know everything, why don't you explain how the government will get involved and rig games when they could rig games now with offshore? Why hasn't the CIA and FBI been betting games already offshore and with syndicates and throwing games to make sure those bets win? Or is your tinfoil hat not tight enough yet?

Lmao your an idiot dude

[mrpapageorgio]

Lmao your an idiot dude

Well I asked you to educate me on how this works, but you don't want to explain it to me, so I guess it's all conspiracy theories if you don't have an answer.

I've been to Vegas and I didn't see any guys with ear pieces wearing sunglasses trying to place bets so where is the government trying to rig games?

[bugsy711]

Well I asked you to educate me on how this works, but you don't want to explain it to me, so I guess it's all conspiracy theories if you don't have an answer.

I've been to Vegas and I didn't see any guys with ear pieces wearing sunglasses trying to place bets so where is the government trying to rig games?

Let me ask you a simple question do you believe refs shave points right now in sports?

[mrpapageorgio]

Let me ask you a simple question do you believe refs shave points right now in sports?

Depends on the sport:In soccer, yes. In NFL, no

[bugsy711]

Depends on the sport:In soccer, yes. In NFL, no

😂😂😂 How about basketball

[mrpapageorgio]

I doubt it (considering they'd make an example out of the next person), but wouldn't be shocked if a story came out. Are you going to play 20 questions or get to your point?

[bugsy711]

I doubt it (considering they'd make an example out of the next person), but wouldn't be shocked if a story came out. Are you going to play 20 questions or get to your point?

Nope thats all I needed to know. 😂😂😂😂 You are an idiot dude. Completely oblivious. No point in even going with this conversation. U must think Tim Donaghy was the only ref to do it. Let me explain something. Basketball is extremely fixed and football is also extremely easy to fix. I'm done best of luck to u dude. Lmao wow people amaze me

[mrpapageorgio]

Nope thats all I needed to know.  You are an idiot dude. Completely oblivious. No point in even going with this conversation. U must think Tim Donaghy was the only ref to do it. Let me exain something. Basketball is extremely fixed and football is also extremely easy to fix. I'm done best of luck to u dude. Lmao wow people amaze me

So you have no logical argument as to how legalizing sports betting will allow the government to fix the games. I never said games haven't been fixed. I'm just saying you have no logic to explain how the government will fix the games and this ruling makes it easier.

Ladies and gentlemen, I found the reincarnation of Tho Marino.

[bugsy711]

So you have no logical argument as to how legalizing sports betting will allow the government to fix the games. I never said games haven't been fixed. I'm just saying you have no logic to explain how the government will fix the games and this ruling makes it easier.

Ladies and gentlemen, I found the reincarnation of Tho Marino.

Wise man once told me don't argue with idiots so I'm gonna leave it at that. There's no point in talking to u... U are seriously clueless man. I've got nothing else to say to u... Ur a moron

[mrpapageorgio]

I’m dealing with a troll so I’m going to leave it alone. But either way, if SCOTUS is going to make it impossible for you to bet on sports, then hang up your pro badge and let the rest of us play and make money while you continue to yell with your tin foil hat on.

[HedgeHog]

Wise man once told me don't argue with idiots so I'm gonna leave it at that. There's no point in talking to u... U are seriously clueless man. I've got nothing else to say to u... Ur a moron

For once we agree. But if everyone's arguing with you, then likely you're the idiot.

BTW, when was the last time that wise guy talked with you? Guessing he took his own advice.

[bugsy711]

For once we agree. But if everyone's arguing with you, then likely you're the idiot.

BTW, when was the last time that wise guy talked with you? Guessing he took his own advice.

Hedge hog we come from the same city would definitely show u in person how I'm living maybe even sell u a dog at a discount rate 😂😂 like I said same city man u wanna see u just let me know...

[Ironman07]

I dont think it will at all ruin betting. Looking at the bigger picture most casinos are already set up to implement betting in a short time. Its been speculated where I am in Missouri that certain legislative venues might be in place by August for the NFL season. However bettors would have to register through the casino as per players card to make bets and set up mobile accounts. all the details are to be worked out. I see the bigger issue as to the lines all the casinos will be posting. there aren't going to be 10 cent baseball lines which is going to eventually be a drawback and the fact that all the wagers will have a tracking system for tax purposes.

[bugsy711]

I dont think it will at all ruin betting. Looking at the bigger picture most casinos are already set up to implement betting in a short time. Its been speculated where I am in Missouri that certain legislative venues might be in place by August for the NFL season. However bettors would have to register through the casino as per players card to make bets and set up mobile accounts. all the details are to be worked out. I see the bigger issue as to the lines all the casinos will be posting. there aren't going to be 10 cent baseball lines which is going to eventually be a drawback and the fact that all the wagers will have a tracking system for tax purposes.

Good input brother

[mtneer1212]

Don't know why I waste my time with a guy who's talking out of his ass. Legalized gambling will make it easier to fund my OFFSHORE accounts dumbass. It's a win. Don't expect you to get it since you're obviously accustomed to losing.

Easier to fund? Are you kidding? There will be more scrutiny than ever on financial tranactions offshore to protect the legal US interests.

[jjgold]

Easier to fund? Are you kidding? There will be more scrutiny than ever on financial tranactions offshore to protect the legal US interests.

nope..impossible to stop with bitcoin

[HedgeHog]

Easier to fund? Are you kidding? There will be more scrutiny than ever on financial tranactions offshore to protect the legal US interests.

I don't think so. As each state legalizes sports wagering, they'll get over 90% of the gamblers in their jurisdiction. Novices will be coming out of the woodwork to gladly lay -115 or even -120. The less than 10% that opt to stay offshore, like you and me, is sharper action that they really don't want anyway. So how much effort will the US expend to get the rest of us to switch over? I just don't think the Feds will pursue overseas gambling with the same vigor anymore. I could be wrong; time will tell.

[StackinGreen]

I don't think so. As each state legalizes sports wagering, they'll get over 90% of the gamblers in their jurisdiction. Novices will be coming out of the woodwork to gladly lay -115 or even -120. The less than 10% that opt to stay offshore, like you and me, is sharper action that they really don't want anyway. So how much effort will the US expend to get the rest of us to switch over? I just don't think the Feds will pursue overseas gambling with the same vigor anymore. I could be wrong; time will tell.

Like horse racing, I fear that this is the case, just for their sake, as only novices or people who have no idea about sports betting or mathematics would lay into a vig that is -115 or higher. They obviously don't know how hard -110 is to beat, in the first place.

They limit those of us who win, even british bookmakers do if you win a couple grand. That's why in a certain sense books or bookies are scam machines. They only want action that is stupid, not all action, and there is nothing honorable about them, otherwise they'd take all bets at all lines they set, because they have the vig which is the same on each bet.

I just don't think the Feds will pursue overseas gambling with the same vigor anymore. I could be wrong; time will tell.

My question to HedgeHog above (nice name btw) is what do you exactly mean by this, "pursue"? There are certain restrictions on moving money already, which is the only real issue going, right? I'm just trying to figure out ways where as a US guy I can get a pinnacle or similar account. Those of us who place decent or big action occasionally clearly aren't going to be using US (state gov't) shops, for lots of reasons, most of which are tax reasons. I say that because taxes mean little to the novice better who goes in for $20, which is why he isn't serious and they feast on the volume of small idiots like that. Anyone who does analysis of any sort obviously is gonna be betting into the G range

[lonnie55]

Easier to fund? Are you kidding? There will be more scrutiny than ever on financial tranactions offshore to protect the legal US interests.

I don't think so. As each state legalizes sports wagering, they'll get over 90% of the gamblers in their jurisdiction. Novices will be coming out of the woodwork to gladly lay -115 or even -120. The less than 10% that opt to stay offshore, like you and me, is sharper action that they really don't want anyway. So how much effort will the US expend to get the rest of us to switch over? I just don't think the Feds will pursue overseas gambling with the same vigor anymore. I could be wrong; time will tell.

In many European countries where online gambling and/or sports betting has been legalized during the last years, you can notice a trend that authorities want to gain control over the payment systems. Therefore they planned to ban popular providers like Neteller and Skrill that are known for being used by gamblers.

As long as the authorities don't accept sports betting as a profession they don't care if you're a sharp or a recreational bettor. They want to force everybody to place their bets at regulated books.

But as we all know, laws and prosecution are two very different animals. What I can say about the country I live in, Germany, is that although online gambling is illegal there is no prosecution by the authorities. They tolerate it when people gamble offshore. Of course, they never said it. But it's the reality. It's like an open secret. Nevertheless that could change as soon as the new law has passed. They have law enforcement on their agenda.

nope..impossible to stop with bitcoin

Yes, it's impossible to stop Bitcoin. But authorities could declare it illegal one day and make their own state cryptocurrency. Yes, there will always be a way to get around state control. The question is: Do you want to do be engaged in illegal things no matter if they are able to catch you or not?

[jjgold]

I don't think so. As each state legalizes sports wagering, they'll get over 90% of the gamblers in their jurisdiction. Novices will be coming out of the woodwork to gladly lay -115 or even -120. The less than 10% that opt to stay offshore, like you and me, is sharper action that they really don't want anyway. So how much effort will the US expend to get the rest of us to switch over? I just don't think the Feds will pursue overseas gambling with the same vigor anymore. I could be wrong; time will tell.

that is why usa not going to chase offshore operators ..average Joe wil not use it

[lonnie55]

that is why usa not going to chase offshore operators ..average Joe wil not use it

You may underestimate the importance of offshore/unregulated gambling. In 2016 Germans wagered €36bn on unregulated markets which is almost 39% of the total market. Probably the proportions in US will be different but it's still a multi-billion dollar affair

[mtneer1212]

that is why usa not going to chase offshore operators ..average Joe wil not use it

This exactly why they will chase them -- the big money guys WILL be using it. And thats who they want.

[StackinGreen]

This exactly why they will chase them -- the big money guys WILL be using it. And thats who they want.

This is closer to the way they think. We'll see what happens. In general, anyone making purchases in this banana republic can be tracked. 10k withholding, just like the lack of change in horse racing tax withholding rates since 1970s even though the currency has been inflated 5x over, shows you just how much freedom there is left in the US. Little.

Yet you can move 50-100k + in the market, which is not "gambling" is it