Bookmaker is light years better than 5dimes with BTC withdrawals

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  • DroopyDog
    SBR MVP
    • 11-03-16
    • 1255

    #1
    Bookmaker is light years better than 5dimes with BTC withdrawals
    I requested BTC wd at Bookmaker at 8:30am
    -deducted immediately
    -paid by 11am

    5dimes doesnt deduct immediately and Id still be waiting 2 more days to receive the initial email verification...and then 2 more days after that to get paid


    BookMaker
  • Crusherrr
    SBR MVP
    • 06-27-16
    • 3649

    #2
    Agreed. Bookmaker as good as it gets. Imagine if they had reduced juice?
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    • mrpapageorgio
      SBR MVP
      • 09-07-17
      • 2974

      #3
      Agree I like BM's payouts better. I just wish they had 5D's lines/ reduced juice.
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      • Waterstpub87
        SBR MVP
        • 09-09-09
        • 4102

        #4
        Originally posted by Crusherrr
        Agreed. Bookmaker as good as it gets. Imagine if they had reduced juice?
        Oh man, this would be a dream. I have started to like bookmaker more and more, even though they cut bonuses and loyalty program for me.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          Who has more customers??

          Could that make it slower?
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          • jtoler
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 12-17-13
            • 30967

            #6
            Originally posted by Crusherrr
            Agreed. Bookmaker as good as it gets. Imagine if they had reduced juice?
            yea imagine, instead they have inflated juice
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            • RocketMan$$$
              SBR High Roller
              • 09-11-17
              • 214

              #7
              as long as 5 dimes still pays
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              • Microphone
                SBR MVP
                • 01-08-08
                • 2950

                #8
                Great discussion. That's the trade off.

                There is no disputing 5 Dimes has the best and most options for wagering and some of the best competitive juice prices.

                There is no dispute that compared to other 3 US facing major books---Heritage, Bookmaker and BetOnline---that 5 Dimes has the most archaic web site (assuming BetOnline's is working) and, being discussed here, BTC withdrawal method and time frame.


                I know it's not that simple saying which would you rather have. Some bettors are less likely to be limited at Bookmaker than 5 Dimes...one example of many.


                And some think because of the 2 day wait time vs. 2 hour wait time, there is some risk with their money or lack of ability of 5 Dimes to pay. I haven't seen any no pay threads here with that subject.


                So I'll ask anyway, which would you rather have, a 2 day wait with a hassle to many with security or whatever it is at 5 Dimes or same day pay? There's probably no right answer.

                I'm interested to see the next SBR posters poll to see if 5 Dimes gets dethroned or holds it's spot.
                Last edited by Microphone; 05-01-18, 09:02 AM.
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                • ABEHONEST
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-27-09
                  • 9470

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Microphone
                  Great discussion. That's the trade off.

                  There is no disputing 5 Dimes has the best and most options for wagering and some of the best competitive juice prices.

                  There is no dispute that compared to other 3 US facing major books---Heritage, Bookmaker and BetOnline---that 5 Dimes has the most archaic web site (assuming BetOnline's is working) and, being discussed here, BTC withdrawal method and time frame.


                  I know it's not that simple saying which would you rather have. Some bettors are less likely to be limited at Bookmaker than 5 Dimes...one example of many.


                  And some think because of the 2 day wait time vs. 2 hour wait time, there is some risk with their money or lack of ability of 5 Dimes to pay. I haven't seen any no pay threads here with that subject.


                  So I'll ask anyway, which would you rather have, a 2 day wait with a hassle to many with security or whatever it is at 5 Dimes or same day pay? There's probably no right answer.

                  I'm interested to see the next SBR posters poll to see if 5 Dimes gets dethroned or holds it's spot.
                  So Bookmaker wins one category out of 10? Easy math here members.
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                  • DroopyDog
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-03-16
                    • 1255

                    #10
                    Well the pros will choose reduced juice, but recreational guys like me would rather have smooth fast payouts. 5dimes is maddening in this area... and when you realize its intentional it really pisses you off.

                    There is 0 plausible excuse for a bitcoin payout to take 4 days. If they wanna blame it on their processor, do it in house, or find a better processor because big books like bookmaker and heritage dont have that issue
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                    • relaaxx
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-15-06
                      • 3281

                      #11
                      if you need/want your money as fast as possible and that is the priority then bookmaker is for you. if that is not the most important thing to you then 5dimes is way better. never liked bookmaker had a problem with management many years ago. book to book is free except at bookmaker. they will charge hundreds to do a book to book. it cost them nothing. bookmaker sucks. the best book I love to say they suck. just saying it still makes me happy. bookmaker sucks.
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                      • ABEHONEST
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-27-09
                        • 9470

                        #12
                        Originally posted by relaaxx
                        if you need/want your money as fast as possible and that is the priority then bookmaker is for you. if that is not the most important thing to you then 5dimes is way better. never liked bookmaker had a problem with management many years ago. book to book is free except at bookmaker. they will charge hundreds to do a book to book. it cost them nothing. bookmaker sucks. the best book I love to say they suck. just saying it still makes me happy. bookmaker sucks.
                        I just might agree with you, especially with management? Etiquette warnings from SBR are needed.
                        I had one C-rated Book state, they would have given me a break had I not posted a complaint about them on SBR.
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 61409

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ABEHONEST

                          I just might agree with you, especially with management? Etiquette warnings from SBR are needed.
                          I had one C-rated Book state, they would have given me a break had I not posted a complaint about them on SBR.
                          Name and shame them Abe.
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                          • jbayko
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 12-29-16
                            • 310

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            Who has more customers??

                            Could that make it slower?
                            If you have more customers, then in theory you have higher profits and correspondingly higher operational costs to support those customers. If you have longer delays in customer support functions, then you haven't scaled up appropriately.

                            So if the excuse is that 5Dimes takes longer because they have higher volume, that's still on them - they have made a choice to decrease costs at the expense of customer satisfaction.

                            However, I don't believe this is the reason why. If their staff couldn't keep up with the volume, then what we'd see is wait times growing longer and longer as the backlog builds up over time until eventually none of us would be receiving payouts That's not happening, so the delay we all experience is inherent in their process. My guess is it's what others here have suspected - they are purposely adding a delay in hopes that X% of payouts never take place because the customer has wagered some of the balance in the meantime. It's even happened to me before, and I consider myself to have great self discipline when it comes to betting.
                            Last edited by jbayko; 05-01-18, 03:27 PM.
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                            • jbayko
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 12-29-16
                              • 310

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Microphone
                              ...There is no dispute that compared to other 3 US facing major books---Heritage, Bookmaker and BetOnline---that 5 Dimes has the most archaic web site (assuming BetOnline's is working)...
                              5Dimes gets a lot of crap for it's old website, but I actually like it. What is it that people really need here? Sports betting is not complicated. Pick a category, pick your bets, and submit. Sometimes simple and stable is the best solution. Heritage and Bovada have flashy websites, but they're also full of annoying bugs.

                              There are a couple of things I wish 5Dimes had, such as the ability to set the Risk OR Win amount, but I've learned to live without it just fine. Their selection and odds are worth those minor extremely inconveniences.
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Waterstpub87
                                Oh man, this would be a dream. I have started to like bookmaker more and more, even though they cut bonuses and loyalty program for me.
                                They cut everything, but still a solid book.

                                The cost to play is way to high, I can call in bets to Nevada for that price.
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                                • ABEHONEST
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-27-09
                                  • 9470

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                  Name and shame them Abe.
                                  That, I had to give that up. It's hard enough to win without personal changes on lines, meant directly for you.
                                  It's true about the C-Book. But, would they have really helped me with mountainous rollover?
                                  I have serious doubts.
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                                  • Optional
                                    Administrator
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 61409

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jbayko
                                    I wish 5Dimes had, such as the ability to set the Risk OR Win amount
                                    If you use the "Straight & RIF" menu you can select risk or win.
                                    .
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                                    • 5918mike
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-16-14
                                      • 1885

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                      If you use the "Straight & RIF" menu you can select risk or win.
                                      Circle selection vs square selection, LOL!
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                                      • jbayko
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 12-29-16
                                        • 310

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                        If you use the "Straight & RIF" menu you can select risk or win.
                                        True, but I'm usually doing multiple wagers at a time so that's more of a hassle. But thanks for the reminder
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                                        • sourtwist
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-10-12
                                          • 9364

                                          #21
                                          Bookmaker second to none
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                                          • TheMoneyShot
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 02-14-07
                                            • 28672

                                            #22
                                            Only knock with Bookmaker... when getting a PO with BTC... you always lose around $5.00 extra in BTC conversion somewhere in the equation. I don't get it???

                                            5Dimes... you never lose $5.00
                                            Heritage you never lose $5.00

                                            That's one thing that pisses me off about Bookmaker... and they act like they don't know what's going on???? Secret service charge somewhere.
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                                            • Waterstpub87
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-09-09
                                              • 4102

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by KVB
                                              They cut everything, but still a solid book.

                                              The cost to play is way to high, I can call in bets to Nevada for that price.
                                              Yes and No. Started betting international baseball, Bookmaker -110, Heritage Betonline -115.
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61409

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                Only knock with Bookmaker... when getting a PO with BTC... you always lose around $5.00 extra in BTC conversion somewhere in the equation. I don't get it???

                                                5Dimes... you never lose $5.00
                                                Heritage you never lose $5.00

                                                That's one thing that pisses me off about Bookmaker... and they act like they don't know what's going on???? Secret service charge somewhere.
                                                They have small processor fee, something under 1% they said last time they commented about it.
                                                .
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                                                • Microphone
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-08-08
                                                  • 2950

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by relaaxx
                                                  if you need/want your money as fast as possible and that is the priority then bookmaker is for you. if that is not the most important thing to you then 5dimes is way better. never liked bookmaker had a problem with management many years ago. book to book is free except at bookmaker. they will charge hundreds to do a book to book. it cost them nothing. bookmaker sucks. the best book I love to say they suck. just saying it still makes me happy. bookmaker sucks.
                                                  This still baffles me. If you need your money "as fast as possible" why do you have it offshore???? If 48 hours vs 4-6 hours makes a difference in your financial life you have problems.
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                                                  • TheMoneyShot
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 02-14-07
                                                    • 28672

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                    They have small processor fee, something under 1% they said last time they commented about it.
                                                    I must of missed that post/thread. Glad they came forward and explained it.
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                                                    • GradyFuson
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 06-03-17
                                                      • 218

                                                      #27
                                                      I would expect that the bigger books would have experts helping them with handling crypto. 5dimes and BM likely have a strong understanding of the direction of the price of crypto and when 5 dimes takes 4+ days to send you Bitcoin payout it gives them a chance to sell/payout at a more opportune time.
                                                      I think Bookmaker also does this, but within much smaller timeframe so you are less likely to lose your shirt on volatility.
                                                      The industry should demand that A+ books payout well within 24 hours.
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                                                      • DroopyDog
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-03-16
                                                        • 1255

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                        Only knock with Bookmaker... when getting a PO with BTC... you always lose around $5.00 extra in BTC conversion somewhere in the equation. I don't get it???

                                                        5Dimes... you never lose $5.00
                                                        Heritage you never lose $5.00

                                                        That's one thing that pisses me off about Bookmaker... and they act like they don't know what's going on???? Secret service charge somewhere.
                                                        Depends on your wallet and what exchange price your wallet is using. I use blockchain wallet and Bookmaker has never shorted me based on the price blockchain uses
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                                                        • A4K
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 10-08-12
                                                          • 5243

                                                          #29
                                                          Bookmaker is great for transfers in and out but their variety of lines and options nullify that edge. Teasers are weak and no reduced juice.
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                                                          • KVB
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 05-29-14
                                                            • 74817

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Waterstpub87
                                                            Yes and No. Started betting international baseball, Bookmaker -110, Heritage Betonline -115.
                                                            Good point.
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                                                            • Jared Brooks
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 02-10-17
                                                              • 152

                                                              #31
                                                              Bookmaker is superior to 5Dimes in terms of:

                                                              payouts with cryptocurrency
                                                              interface
                                                              customer service
                                                              limits

                                                              Because of the higher limits, Bookmaker is superior for the big boys.
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                                                              • ibetyouadollar
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 01-26-18
                                                                • 200

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by DroopyDog
                                                                I requested BTC wd at Bookmaker at 8:30am you are 1000% right.
                                                                -deducted immediately
                                                                -paid by 11am

                                                                5dimes doesnt deduct immediately and Id still be waiting 2 more days to receive the initial email verification...and then 2 more days after that to get paid


                                                                BookMaker
                                                                you are 1000% right
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                                                                • mrpapageorgio
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-07-17
                                                                  • 2974

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Mentioned this on the May payout page, but even BetOnline's generic sites have a better withdrawal process than 5D. Did a hit and run bet tonight on Cavs' spread on LowVig and submitted the withdrawal shortly after the game. To authenticate that it was me actually withdrawing, they gave me the option of receiving an automated phone call or an email to the number/address on record with a code I had to enter (along the lines of BookMaker). Did the email and in less than 6 hours, I was paid.
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                                                                  • sourtwist
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-10-12
                                                                    • 9364

                                                                    #34
                                                                    5d doesn't seem to care enough to step up theur game
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                                                                    • RonPaul2008
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 06-08-07
                                                                      • 6741

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I hope Bookmaker brings back wires and debit card soon.
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