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  • Barbos
    SBR Rookie
    • 02-28-17
    • 8

    #1
    Pinnacle grading
    Edit by SBR: All wagers on the market were voided per Pinnacle policy on suspicious betting patterns. The match was not contested on a fair basis. Pinnacle acknowledges you were provided incorrect info by customer service and are reaching out to you to explain their grading.

    Pinnacle returned me the winning bid Champions League Men Kadetten Schaffhausen vs Dinamo Bucaresti In the framework of this event strange and suspicious operations were observed when placing bets. Then they told me that they overestimated the ratio. Although other bookmakers suggested this result a coefficient of 1.8 - 2.0while Pinnakle gave 2.21. they consider that this is an overestimated factor and do not want to calculate the winnings. if the ratio was overstated why did not they make a comeback during the match? And made a return when the bet was played. I consider this a fraud on the part of Pinnacle
    Last edited by SBR Forum; 12-11-17, 10:58 AM. Reason: added reply
  • dealer wins
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-03-09
    • 816

    #2
    I must say Pinnacle are starting to pull a few shady moves these days, IMO they have slipped from A+ to B.
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    • Optional
      Administrator
      • 06-10-10
      • 61457

      #3
      Did they say it was due to suspicious betting patterns or incorrect odds? Its tough to tell from your post.
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      • moojoo
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 09-02-16
        • 938

        #4
        Looks like bad odds. But only 10%. They should settle at 2.00 and pay him. What if his bet was loss,they would settle as losing bet. I cant believe Pinnacle start pulling that sh#t,freerolling players.
        P.s Ofcourse my post have point only in case if they cancel wager after game ended,not before. I understand that is the case.
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 61457

          #5
          Originally posted by moojoo
          Looks like bad odds. But only 10%. They should settle at 2.00 and pay him. What if his bet was loss,they would settle as losing bet. I cant believe Pinnacle start pulling that sh#t,freerolling players.
          P.s Ofcourse my post have point only in case if they cancel wager after game ended,not before. I understand that is the case.
          I think it is more likely the first explanation the OP was told, "strange and suspicious operations were observed when placing bets"

          Pinny don't freeroll players or cancel bets for no reason. There will be a proper explanation I'd say.


          If the OP returns he should send in a Sportsbook Complaint form and I am sure SBR can get more info about it for him.
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            what type of wager was it??

            Small??
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            • Barbos
              SBR Rookie
              • 02-28-17
              • 8

              #7
              Other bookmakers gave this result 1.8-2.0 and Pinnacle 2.21. and they think that they are overstated
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              • Barbos
                SBR Rookie
                • 02-28-17
                • 8

                #8
                The bet is made 3 hours before the start of the game. Annulled after graduation
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                • Barbos
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 02-28-17
                  • 8

                  #9
                  The bet was handball for handicap +3.5. amount 135 euros
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                  • Barbos
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 02-28-17
                    • 8

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Optional
                    Did they say it was due to suspicious betting patterns or incorrect odds? Its tough to tell from your post.
                    Other bookmakers gave this result 1.8-2.0 and Pinnacle 2.21. and they think that they are overstated
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                    • Barbos
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 02-28-17
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Originally posted by moojoo
                      Looks like bad odds. But only 10%. They should settle at 2.00 and pay him. What if his bet was loss,they would settle as losing bet. I cant believe Pinnacle start pulling that sh#t,freerolling players.
                      P.s Ofcourse my post have point only in case if they cancel wager after game ended,not before. I understand that is the case.
                      The bet is made 3 hours before the start of the game. Annulled after graduation
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                      • Barbos
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 02-28-17
                        • 8

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        what type of wager was it??

                        Small??
                        The bet was handball for handicap +3.5. amount 135 euros
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                        • 4nic8ing
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 03-19-08
                          • 94

                          #13
                          This is more of a bad line than the other claim made by the individual playing at DSI (-7.5 compared to -9.5). If other books really had this -125 through +100 on average while Pinnacle was +121 this probably went past their 7% rule when comparing lines.
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                          • dealer wins
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 02-03-09
                            • 816

                            #14
                            If they had 3 hours before the game to palp it and didnt, then the bet should stand IMO.
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                            • Barbos
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 02-28-17
                              • 8

                              #15
                              Edit by SBR: All wagers on the market were voided per Pinnacle policy on suspicious betting patterns. The match was not contested on a fair basis. Pinnacle acknowledges you were provided incorrect info by customer service and are reaching out to you to explain their grading.


                              wrote a complaint in SBR. but after 5 days no response to this complaint was received
                              Last edited by SBR Forum; 12-11-17, 10:58 AM. Reason: added update
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                              • Paaek
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 12-27-18
                                • 2

                                #16
                                Pinnacle has graded multiple bets incorrectly (I wager over 100 a week so I do not go through each one aside from ESPN to confirm) and I realized one now that was an extremely large sum 4 days after the bet (bet was made on Sunday, realized on Thursday December 27 after Christmas Eve, Christmas and Boxing Day) and now they may not change the result given that it was over 72 hours while their rules clearly state that sport specific rules override general rules and their sport specific rules stat that bets are pulled using ESPN. As such I check ESPN for my results and trust the betting site.

                                I would agree that Pinnacle is slipping. They only incorrectly graded bets that were in THEIR FAVOR. This has happened numerous times. There are better sites out there. 5Dimes is much better, BetCris is much better. They correctly grade bets and adjust if they have made a mistake. Pinnacle used to be the best but has really slipped with their customer service and manipulation of rules.
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                                • pretentiousGuy
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 09-13-18
                                  • 136

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Paaek
                                  5Dimes is much better, BetCris is much better.
                                  lol
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                                  • icon
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-09-18
                                    • 3441

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pretentiousGuy
                                    lol

                                    LOL X 1000.

                                    There is no book better than Pinnacle.


                                    BetCris doesn't even offer Under 20 Hockey championship games when everyone else does.
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                                    • Nilsli
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 12-05-18
                                      • 24

                                      #19
                                      If Pinnacle has started to cancel bets that is just slightly out of the line they don't deserve an A+ rate in my book. This scam vs player is what D- or F books used to do...Arbers should be very careful bet high with Pinnacle from now.
                                      Last edited by Nilsli; 01-03-19, 09:42 PM.
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                                      • Nilsli
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 12-05-18
                                        • 24

                                        #20
                                        I have also seen strange cancellations of bets for their in-play...(first accepted and 1 or 2 minutes later cancelled)

                                        Pinnacle has become a good book for regular players only.
                                        Last edited by Nilsli; 01-03-19, 09:53 PM.
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