PA Online Poker & NJ Sports Betting Case Update

**jjgold** · 10-27-17, 03:35 PM

Good point legal sports betting is trying to compete with the Amazons offshore… Congratulations on the baby

**sweep** · 10-28-17, 10:59 PM

Tri-state, East Coast changing the game. Pioneers

**jjgold** · 10-29-17, 04:52 AM

It’s going to be interesting with the Jury I still think they’re going to knock it down

**Bluehorseshoe** · 10-29-17, 05:42 AM

Why bet legally? Why would anyone want to pay taxes on their winnings??

**El Nino** · 10-29-17, 06:03 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

It’s going to be interesting with the Jury I still think they’re going to knock it down

Just got called into jury duty for the U.S. Supreme Court

**jjgold** · 10-30-17, 06:07 AM

Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe

Why bet legally? Why would anyone want to pay taxes on their winnings??

It can never be like offshore..never

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 10-30-17, 07:29 AM

If anyone here has HBO really interesting part in their REAL SPORTS Show about sports betting and how hypocritical the NFL is with regard to all this....Put a team in the NFL in Vegas because of $$ yet still worried about the "integrity of the game"

. Chris Christie was on and pretty much said if there was a way the NFL could get a piece of the pie with regard to betting, they'd agree in a heart beat....many believe NJ will win their case because of the Las Vegas Team being there

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 10-30-17, 07:33 AM

congrats on the baby, Natalie!!

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 10-30-17, 07:36 AM

Natalie looks a bit different than she did in Costa Rica in August

Congrats to you and your new addition

**sweep** · 10-30-17, 01:47 PM

West Virginia just put a bill on the table for online gambling (poker/slots etc..not sports) after it looks like PA will get this done.

**stevek173** · 10-30-17, 01:58 PM

ty for the updates, sweeper

**sweep** · 10-30-17, 02:17 PM

My estimates have online poker as being a viable option once again for pro or semi pro sustainability......assuming PA joins the NJ, DE, NV player pools (which is enevitable as long as the bill passes in PA).

Populations:

NJ- 9 milion

DE- 1 mil

NV- 3 mil

PA- 12.8 mil

NJ senator Ray Lesniak also has a tenative plan in place for joining pools with the UK (which would be the absolute nuts!)

The state of New Jersey and the United Kingdom have reached a tentative agreement to share their respective online gambling player pools, according to report from Global Gaming Business.
The UK is one of the oldest regulated online casino markets in the world. New Jersey has more than 90 percent of the regulated online gambling market in America.

**jjgold** · 10-30-17, 02:18 PM

Sweeper never going to leave the house!

**milwaukee mike** · 10-30-17, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by sweep

My estimates have online poker as being a viable option once again for pro or semi pro sustainability......assuming PA joins the NJ, DE, NV player pools (which is enevitable as long as the bill passes in PA).

Populations:

NJ- 9 milion

DE- 1 mil

NV- 3 mil

PA- 12.8 mil

NJ senator Ray Lesniak also has a tenative plan in place for joining pools with the UK (which would be the absolute nuts!)

The state of New Jersey and the United Kingdom have reached a tentative agreement to share their respective online gambling player pools, according to report from Global Gaming Business.
The UK is one of the oldest regulated online casino markets in the world. New Jersey has more than 90 percent of the regulated online gambling market in America.

why do you put pa as 12.8 mil but round the others off?

nevada's 2.17 million being rounded up to 3 is also a bit weird

**sweep** · 10-30-17, 02:35 PM

Im seeing 2.94 mil for nevada on google search......

Mikey when are moving to Jersey

**sweep** · 10-30-17, 02:36 PM

Oct 20, 2017 - However, this vast territory is very sparsely filled with Nevada's citizens and in fact, there are only eight states in the country that are less densely populated. The current population for Nevada in 2016 is estimated at 2,890,845, which is a sizeable increase from its 2.7 million population at the 2010 Census.

**jjgold** · 10-30-17, 02:40 PM

Nevada totally dead for poker

Poorest state in the USA

**milwaukee mike** · 10-30-17, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by sweep

Im seeing 2.94 mil for nevada on google search......

Mikey when are moving to Jersey

wow that's really weird

when you type it in chrome 2.17 and 2.2 pop up

**sweep** · 10-31-17, 09:22 AM

The bill passed

The move came quickly after the legislature passed the gaming bill late last week, with the legalization and regulation of daily fantasy sports, sports betting and more also included. The bill Wolf signed was H 271. Wolf’s signature was the last step for the bill to become law.
Pennsylvania officially joins New Jersey, Nevada and Delaware with legal online gambling.

**jjgold** · 10-31-17, 11:29 AM

sweeper still does not mean much

everything comes down to NJ RULING

**Optional** · 10-31-17, 05:06 PM

Don't think 25 million population is going to be enough for a decent player pool yet.

Australia has that population, loves gambling, and cannot support it's own online player pool. Not one company thinks it's viable to operate under the law here.

**sweep** · 11-02-17, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Nevada totally dead for poker

Poorest state in the USA

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Nevada’s cash game poker market is on a five-month-long winning streak.
The state’s poker rooms raked $8.7 million from the games in September, according to figures released this week by gaming regulators. The amount was the best September for the rooms since the $8.9 million in revenue generated four years ago, according to data compiled by the University of Nevada Las Vegas’ Center for Gaming Research

**PAULYPOKER** · 11-02-17, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by SBR Natalie

PA Online Poker & NJ Sports Betting Case Update

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Hello Nat
I thought PA approved sports betting as well....

Pa approves sports wagering

**RudyRuetigger** · 11-02-17, 10:25 AM

oh wow, natalie had a baby?

had no clue dawgy went to the bash

**sweep** · 11-02-17, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

Hello Nat
I thought PA approved sports betting as well....

Pa approves sports wagering

There was literature in the bill for sports wagering and DFS but those have several federal hoops to jump through.....online poker and VR slots/table games is a state thing. PAPSA is a federal law

**PAULYPOKER** · 11-02-17, 11:47 AM

i see^

**SharpAngles** · 11-02-17, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by sweep

My estimates have online poker as being a viable option once again for pro or semi pro sustainability......assuming PA joins the NJ, DE, NV player pools (which is enevitable as long as the bill passes in PA).

This sounds great until you realize maybe 1% of those populations are interested in online poker and even less will deposit more than once if they lose. Pro online poker players are a thing of the past and you’re nuts if you think these states will create an environment that can sustain anything other than a tax grab focusing on table games and slots. The only thing that will make online poker a realistic profession again is a national player pool and a sane tax structure. Neither is happening anytime soon.

**SharpAngles** · 11-02-17, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Don't think 25 million population is going to be enough for a decent player pool yet.

Australia has that population, loves gambling, and cannot support it's own online player pool. Not one company thinks it's viable to operate under the law here.

As usual, Opti gets it

**jjgold** · 11-02-17, 12:32 PM

Poker will never be great but all this little stuff helps for players