GT Bets Kicks Me Out

[Waterstpub87]

Yeah waters, that's not really my expertise - I don't think people are limited based on winning or losing percentage - I think its more how much you win or lose. Obviously a book like betdsi will probably not cut your limits unless your betting more than a couple thousand a game. Obviously it depends on the sport too - if you betting the NFL you can obviously bet bigger without hurt them because of the liquidity then if your betting MLB or NBA where the books have more of an issue balancing their book.

I was betting less than 100$ a game. My point was: In your top books, Bovada and DSI are pretty square focused books. Obviously you are doing something that doesn't get you limited.

[Buffalo Nickle]

I've never heard of a professional bettor whose primary outs in addition to BetDSI are Bovada, Skybook, Topbet and GTBets. But let him have his fun.

[thomorino]

Okay

Yeah I think if you understand the way markets work its not that hard to not get limited. For instance if you bet big on MLB and NBA games you will be limited very fast because their is not a lot of liquidity in these markets. If I bet 2-3k on Pittsburgh playing New England in the AFC championship and 70% of their action is on New England that is not the type of bet that will get me kicked out.

You don't seem to understand markets very well - if you bet small in small markets or keep your larger bets to more liquid markets like the NFL you will be fine in my experience.

A

[Buffalo Nickle]

This is probably true. Not true at Bovada, Skybook, Topbet and GTBets. If you are betting more than $50 at these books, it is very early in your professional career and you ain't going to be eating on them for long.

[thomorino]

I've never heard of a professional bettor whose primary outs in addition to BetDSI are Bovada, Skybook, Topbet and GTBets. But let him have his fun.

Can you take the time to read my post before making ignorant and stupid replies - I didn't say these were my primary outs I don't even use bovada or gtbets - which was the whole point of this post. Your first reply was don't bet 3k - I clearly said I did not bet 3k. Your reply here is that my Primary outs should not be these books. These books are not my primary outs they are a couple books I use from time to time and I never said these books are my primary outs.

I know you know everything like topbet going out of business little guy, their are plenty of big bettors who use betdsi for the NFL that don't get kicked out - again you have to understand markets - betting the limit in the CFL and other smaller markets will obviously get you limited or kicked out very quickly.

I have used heritage, 5 dimes, bookmaker, and other books, I move around a lot and have local outs too - I don't have access to Pinnacle because I am in the United States.

[Buffalo Nickle]

Can you take the time to read my post before making ignorant and stupid replies - I didn't say these were my primary outs I don't even use bovada or gt- which was the whole point of this post. Your first reply was don't bet 3k - I clearly said did not bet 3k. Your reply here is that my Primary outs would not be these books. These books are not my primary outs they are a couple books I use from time to time.

I know you know everything like topbet going out of business little guy, but I was not responding by saying these are my only or primary outs - I just mentioned a couple books - their are plenty of big bettors who use betdsi for the NFL that don't get kicked out - again you have to understand markets - betting the limit in the CFL and other smaller markets will obviously get you limited or kicked out very quickly.

I have used heritage, 5 dimes, bookmaker, and other books, I move around a lot and have local outs too - I don't have access to Pinnacle because I am in the United States.

I am sure Topbet will be fine and this is all just an hiccup.

All I am saying is watch out for those limits on those books. You have moved around very carefully. I am impressed.

[thomorino]

I don't know if topbet will be fine or not - but topbet has been around for more than 5 years and has always found a way to get through some tough times - the NFL season in 2015 was absolutely brutal for books and topbet made it through this season - the safe bet is in my opinion is they will make it through - which means to me they will continue to slow pay, but will pay.


I think the notion that anyone who doesn't get limited at Betdsi must be a square or a recreational bettor is absurd - I don't bet big in small markets - I keep my big bets to big markets and if I want to bet big in a smaller market like NBA/MLB/NHL I spread the bet around.

[Buffalo Nickle]

I don't know if topbet will be fine or not - but topbet has been around for more than 5 years and has always found a way to get through some tough times - the NFL season in 2015 was absolutely brutal for books and topbet made it through this season - the safe bet is in my opinion is they will make it through - which means to me they will continue to slow pay, but will pay.


I think the notion that anyone who doesn't get limited at Betdsi must be a square or a recreational bettor is absurd - I don't bet big in small markets - I keep my big bets to big markets and if I want to bet big in a smaller market like NBA/MLB/NHL I spread the bet around.

I can go with you on BetDSI since they are owned by BetCRIS. Not so much on the others. If you can bet more than $50, you have not beaten them for much.

Topbet made it through football season offering 5K cash bonuses with 5x rollover and now can't pay out within 3 months. I would not really define that as making it through. They appear to have been destroyed.

[Waterstpub87]

Yeah I think if you understand the way markets work its not that hard to not get limited. For instance if you bet big on MLB and NBA games you will be limited very fast because their is not a lot of liquidity in these markets. If I bet 2-3k on Pittsburgh playing New England in the AFC championship and 70% of their action is on New England that is not the type of bet that will get me kicked out.

You don't seem to understand markets very well - if you bet small in small markets or keep your larger bets to more liquid markets like the NFL you will be fine in my experience.

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My primary action there was NCAA basketball totals. I guess this could be considered a smaller market.

[thomorino]

Yeah - I haven't deposited at topbet in 3 years and don't keep a big balance there or at the other smaller books but topbet rarely kicks people out - they just slow pay and don't pay more than 2500 a month - so they have created a book that can't be used consistently by professionals. Find me more than 1 person on this entire forum who was kicked out by topbet - I'll be surprised.

I know of no 5k cash bonus - the topbet bonus is 1k with a 5 times rollover - if you understand most bonuses all these bonuses do is enable you to bet without vig - you still have to win. I know plenty of people who have been paid in less than 3 months with topbet - but again - topbet is not betdsi and I would never allow my balance their to get over 10 thousand dollars there.

[thomorino]

The books absolutely hate the college basketball totals market and don't even put up numbers in many cases until hours before the game - that is a very small market with limited liquidity and one in which the books do not have much on confidence in their numbers - I don't think any book would allow you to consistently bet big and win in that market.

[Buffalo Nickle]

Yeah - I haven't deposited at topbet in 3 years and don't keep a big balance there or at the other smaller books but topbet rarely kicks people out - they just slow pay and don't pay more than 2500 a month - so they have created a book that can't be used by professionals. Find me more than 1 person on this entire forum who was kicked out by topbet - I'll be surprised.

Yes. Take note Keewatinktink. Another unsustainable with Topbet.

[Keewatinking21]

Okay you guys win, no more hope for me anymore with topbet. I was wrong. I'm out 4 grand. Lesson learned

Yes. Take note Keewatinktink. Another unsustainable with Topbet.

[Buffalo Nickle]

Okay you guys win, no more hope for me anymore with topbet. I was wrong. I'm out 4 grand. Lesson learned

There is still hope and this the reason for my optimism. Topbet is a fairly large book and they had A LOT of people that are up on them 10K+. They can't get out. They just have to ride it out and let the smaller fish take the money out.

[Keewatinking21]

You guys are way beyond me in experience with books, why would they even continue to pay out then. They can't still be getting deposits can they with all this bad backlash? I just don't get it.. only reason I have any hope is because I was paid a check Mid April.

There is still hope and this the reason for my optimism. Topbet is a fairly large book and they had A LOT of people that are up on them 10K+. They can't get out. They just have to ride it out and let the smaller fish take the money out.

[Buffalo Nickle]

You guys are way beyond me in experience with books, why would they even continue to pay out then. They can't still be getting deposits can they with all this bad backlash? I just don't get it.. only reason I have any hope is because I was paid a check Mid April.

If they don't pay out, they go under. They are trying to get through. If they go under, they all lose their jobs and the ownership loses their investment.

[Keewatinking21]

All I'm hoping for is the British Colombia, Canada number to show up on my phone in the near future. Only time they ever called me was with a tracking number haha

If they don't pay out, they go under. They are trying to get through. If they go under, they all lose their jobs and the ownership loses their investment.

[thomorino]

I think topbet is paying they just aren't paying the big players in a timely fashion - if you look at the complaints about topbet paying they are all from players asking for 2k or more - my sense if you keep your payout requests below 1k you will get your money a lot sooner.

[Buffalo Nickle]

I think topbet is paying they just aren't paying the big players in a timely fashion - if you look at the complaints about topbet paying they are all from players asking for 2k or more - my sense if you keep your payout requests below 1k you will get your money a lot sooner.

Everybody is trying to convince themselves Topbet is not in trouble and have been all along. I haven't seen a single poster say they have been paid any amount in a timely manner in a year now.

[thomorino]

Everybody is trying to convince themselves Topbet is not in trouble and have been all along. I haven't seen a single poster say they have been paid any amount in a timely manner in a year now.

I've seen several posters say they were paid within a month.

[Buffalo Nickle]

I've seen several posters say they were paid within a month.

No you haven't. There were a couple that worked Topbet and got paid out faster.

[Keewatinking21]

I just wish someone would report that they were paid recently on here but it's not gonna happen because no one is being paid! I was tricked after getting paid in mid April.. spent a lot of the money I was owed by them thinking I would get another payment no problem.. stupid of me but I didn't do my research

[thomorino]

No you haven't. There were a couple that worked Topbet and got paid out faster.

You need to read more - bisme and several posters said they were paid in 4-5 weeks - obviously not norm

[Buffalo Nickle]

You need to read more - bisme and several posters said they were paid in 4-5 weeks - obviously not norm

I've read every post on this book for the past year. That is not a positive. If they are only paying out small balances and holding back on the bigger payouts that is an outright scam and they are bust.

[thomorino]

If topbet is doing this as I suspect they are it is sleazy but it does not mean they are bust - they are keeping losing players coming and preventing bigger players from getting money. Obviously eventually they have to play bigger players or their reputation will be ruined. I have decided to try and get my money out by requesting several wires each of under 1k.

[Keewatinking21]

It sucks that me getting lucky a few times and having a good little run and having a couple 2 thousand dollars payouts is gonna maybe cost me getting paid.. definitely not up in my betting career haha

If topbet is doing this as I suspect they are it is sleazy but it does not mean they are bust - they are keeping losing players coming and preventing bigger players from getting money. Obviously eventually they have to play bigger players or their reputation will be ruined.

[Buffalo Nickle]

If topbet is doing this as I suspect they are it is sleazy but it does not mean they are bust - they are keeping losing players coming and preventing bigger players from getting money. Obviously eventually they have to play bigger players or their reputation will be ruined.

Why would they do it if they were not bust? They've never done it before. They aren't doing it. They aren't paying anybody except those that have worked them and gotten paid sooner. They were paying within 6 weeks to two months earlier. That timeline is now 3 months.

[thomorino]

Well Topbet is prioritizing certain players I think - the book is definetly not bust and really before bitcoin came out topbet's behavior wouldn't be raising big red flags - you often had to wait a month to get paid at certain books before bitcoin came out.

[Keewatinking21]

I know that Buffalo is a couple weeks longer than me, but I'm at 3 months total days next Monday... if it gets to 4-5 months and still nothing is it probably never going to happen??

QUOTE=thomorino;27055215]Well Topbet is prioritizing certain players I think - the book is definetly not bust and really before bitcoin came out topbet's behavior wouldn't be raising big red flags - you often had to wait a month to get paid at certain books before bitcoin came out.[/QUOTE]

[Buffalo Nickle]

I know that Buffalo is a couple weeks longer than me, but I'm at 3 months total days next Monday... if it gets to 4-5 months and still nothing is it probably never going to happen??

QUOTE=thomorino;27055215]Well Topbet is prioritizing certain players I think - the book is definetly not bust and really before bitcoin came out topbet's behavior wouldn't be raising big red flags - you often had to wait a month to get paid at certain books before bitcoin came out.

[/QUOTE]

Nobody knows Keewa. Not many make it out of these problems. Sportsbook.com did it but they knew they could get away with it and didn't care and didn't give out any free money. Like I said, if it drags into late next month, file a complaint. Sportsbooks do not like outstanding complaints on SBR.

[thomorino]

Keewa its really all about what happens in the next couple months - the NFL betting market is bigger than all other North American betting markets combined so topbet will make an effort to square up with outstanding balances ahead of that season - the thinking at topbet has to be if they can hold on until the NFL season starts they will probably be okay.

[Keewatinking21]

Okay I will do that. Should I be emailing them or calling them? Or that doesn't really matter?


Nobody knows Keewa. Not many make it out of these problems. Sportsbook.com did it but they knew they could get away with it and didn't care and didn't give out any free money. Like I said, if it drags into late next month, file a complaint. Sportsbooks do not like outstanding complaints on SBR.[/QUOTE]

[thomorino]

The best thing to do is sit tight and send an email and call every couple days - let them know you are keeping tabs on them. Why the fuk would they care about an outstanding complaint when they are an F rated book - is SBR going to downgrade them to a G.

[Buffalo Nickle]

The best thing to do is sit tight and send an email and call every couple days - let them know you are keeping tabs on them. Why the fuk would they care about an outstanding complaint when they are an F rated book - is SBR going to downgrade them to a G.

Cost them a ton of deposits.

[thomorino]

Cost them a ton of deposits.

No it won't - otherwise every F rated sportsbook would be out of business in months - many have been around for years.