For all you degens playing blackjack online: BetOnline caught cheating at BJ

[ezeemunee]

the casino is trying to blame this whole mess on an "error" by the dealer. my point is that the dealer himself does not stand to gain anything by cheating. he only works for the casino/operator. so any "error" committed on his part had to have been directed from the casino/operator in charge

[captrobey]

The dealer doesn't stand to gain anything by cheating. The only plausible reason for doing what he did, was that he was directed to do so by the "boss"

I disagree there is a ton to gain by cheating. First - this casino is at more then 1 sportsbook. So i think they give the book a cut of the losses.

If you win at Sportsbetting what better way to get the money back then ripping people off in the Casino. I have lost easily through the years online $40000 at least in there . Probably more . I have cashed out a lot but then again i cannot tell you how many times i have won $4588 and thought i will just go in casino and round it off and end up losing everything. Endless times i have gone in with between $500-$1000 trying to round it off and lost it all to insane BS hands. Now- i am not the only one doing this. Think of all the money they gained by doing this.

On top of all this since these are overseas and really not regulated(I do not care what people say they are not) they can easily get away with it . Because what are you going to do? Look at what just happened caught Red Handed . All that happened is they will give him a slap on the wrist, say it was Human Error- and continue doing the same crap maybe just find another way of doing it since they were caught.

[ezeemunee]

The dealer doesn't stand to gain anything by cheating. The only plausible reason for doing what he did, was that he was directed to do so by the "boss"

[captrobey]

It's a very small sample size of video as well, I'd like to see more tape of this dealer to see how often he even puts his hand on the shoe like that, any other odd mannerisms because that looks very deliberate to me and looks like a practiced move.

There is no mistaking the finger going up. I have played against this guy and have said crap in the message board because of the continuous crap i always used to get in there . And i never even thought about watching what they caught him doing. I especially would like to go back and look because after big Sport wins i would at times be stupid and start losing it in casino and start betting higher hands. I would love to go back and see my bigger hands of $300-$500

[ezeemunee]

I've always known that casinos cheat. Witnessed it first hand myself in Vegas

[BennyBigNuts]

Hi guys, BetOnline shared this statement with us.

BetOnline.ag has been notified of an instance of potentially questionable behavior by a black jack dealer from its previous Live Dealer Casino Provider on the date of January 25th, 2017. The Company removed the previous Provider’s Casino and replaced it with the much improved Visionary iGaming Live Dealer product on February 18th 2017.

BetOnline.ag is currently looking into the issue with help and careful cooperation from the previous Live Dealer provider. BetOnline.ag asks that anyone who feels they may have been affected by this dealer’s actions to contact them by email at Casino@BetOnline.ag.

Translation:
Refer to post #59 in this thread

And what a surprise the cousins of Betonline at SBR move this out of players talk so the thread doesn't get anymore attention.

[5918mike]

There is no way it was an accident . His finger lifted the card plain as day you can see that easily . His finger goes up lifting it to get to the other card . He did not do that before. It makes me wonder how often this has happened when i played at this casino because i would have missed that .

It's a very small sample size of video as well, I'd like to see more tape of this dealer to see how often he even puts his hand on the shoe like that, any other odd mannerisms because that looks very deliberate to me and looks like a practiced move.

[captrobey]

Could of been a mistake. Dealer probably didn't know he was pulling the second card by accident.

There is no way it was an accident . His finger lifted the card plain as day you can see that easily . His finger goes up lifting it to get to the other card . He did not do that before. It makes me wonder how often this has happened when i played at this casino because i would have missed that .

[hello1234567]

Could of been a mistake. Dealer probably didn't know he was pulling the second card by accident.

[captrobey]

Simple human error is BS, it's a deliberate move by the dealer, different from every other deal he makes.

Think about it though if they admit it then everyone who ever played against this guy or even the Casino in general will be going ballistic saying they were cheated or played against this same guy. I have played against this guy i am sure many others remember him. I played not on Betonline though. Probably Sportsbet since others say the same casino is run bu 5D .

This way they only have to reimburse the one guy on there as opposed to opening a flood gate.

[5918mike]

Simple human error is BS, it's a deliberate move by the dealer, different from every other deal he makes.

[captrobey]

I never trusted the LBC or LCB or whoever they are at the table. Every time one comes in i start to lose or weird things happen . I know someone mentioned they are people that just do not have a user name . But i do not trust them at all. Sometimes i leave and go to an empty table and almost immediately one will come on. If the one on there was a plant where this guy got caught then the casino came out ahead. Again no way to prove it but i don't trust them.

[SBR Forum]

Hi guys, BetOnline shared this statement with us.

BetOnline.ag has been notified of an instance of potentially questionable behavior by a black jack dealer from its previous Live Dealer Casino Provider on the date of January 25th, 2017. The Company removed the previous Provider’s Casino and replaced it with the much improved Visionary iGaming Live Dealer product on February 18th 2017.

BetOnline.ag is currently looking into the issue with help and careful cooperation from the previous Live Dealer provider. BetOnline.ag asks that anyone who feels they may have been affected by this dealer’s actions to contact them by email at Casino@BetOnline.ag.

[tsty]

"misplayed"? You fukking idiot...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3-OssVlvgc

For it to be cheating it has to be systematic and with some benefit to the person "cheating"

this is literally a mistake and the guy is betting 120 lol

they target only one player who is betting 120 but nobody else..yeh ok

they need to cheat in a game where they are already winning

Where their main client is penetrating pinnnacle

get a grip you loser

[tsty]

I have never played at either of those . The table says $5000 max and this guys said $20000 . It did not say $20000 rupees or whatever the other currency is. And it was not a misplayed hand it was not Human Error he purposely LIFTED the card up to get to the underneath card . That was obvious cheating.

And there is no way you can say they are not getting something. Do you think a Sportsbook is going to let them operate without getting a cut of the losses?

Nobody bets 20k it's just a different currency like I said

On pinnacle they use currencies from different countries so w.e they use will be the currency on the casino

The sportsbook doesn't cut them anything lol

It's just a bloody service

[TheMoneyShot]

Betonlines response is BS but what do you expect them to say. Easier to say Oh it was Human error then Yea we admit we were cheating . Say it is Human Error and have to reimburse one guy then have an avalanche of players want money back because they have been cheated all along if they admit otherwise.

That was their excuse? Human error? Wow

That dealer paused so long... I thought he was going to throw to 1st base.

[TheSharppie]

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...eating-bj.html

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3366819-has-betonline-blackjack-cheating-video-been-seen.html

There's two on the first page of Players Talk. Several others were deleted for being redundant.

Thanks for the links. I didn't see anything in here so I figured I'd share. Good luck!

[dallahbill33]

Wonder how many times they did it before they got caught penetrating scammers

[BigOrange]

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3366543-all-you-degens-playing-blackjack-online-betonline-caught-cheating-bj.html

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3366819-has-betonline-blackjack-cheating-video-been-seen.html

There's two on the first page of Players Talk. Several others were deleted for being redundant.

[littlekona]

The other 2 payers at table won though w 19 and 21 right???

[evo34]

lol the main books these guys deal to are pinnacle/betonline

you guys are yelling cheating without even realising they don't even get a commission

one misplayed hand and now everyone is cheating

"misplayed"? You fukking idiot...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3-OssVlvgc

[TheSharppie]

There are about 8 threads on it already. How about looking around before starting a 9th one?

So link them? I couldn't find one on the front page in here...

and based on the dudes responding in this thread, they hadn't seen it either.

Big orange, be nice.

[Fitz030808]

Let's find one more instance of this guy dealing the second card before we're ready to pull out the pitchforks. It was so obvious, if it happened before, someone would've caught it. It's not like this was some magic trick.

[DimSum]

Wow this is the first time i see this

[BigOrange]

There are about 8 threads on it already. How about looking around before starting a 9th one?

[TheSharppie]

Betonline and Heritage LIVE Casino Dealer CAUGHT CHEATING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1EiWvN11nU#t=02m

This has to be addressed.

[RudyRuetigger]

sometimes my nose is itchy and without thinking, I pick it without a tissue

I never deal the 2nd card during a game of blackjack because I just forgot

[captrobey]

The max bet on pinnacle is like 6k au and on bol it's 5k usd

those 20k bets are from different currencies from pinnacle users so it's not actually 20k

most of you need to stop commenting about stuff you clearly have no clue about

I have never played at either of those . The table says $5000 max and this guys said $20000 . It did not say $20000 rupees or whatever the other currency is. And it was not a misplayed hand it was not Human Error he purposely LIFTED the card up to get to the underneath card . That was obvious cheating.

And there is no way you can say they are not getting something. Do you think a Sportsbook is going to let them operate without getting a cut of the losses?

[jjgold]

Thread title should be changed

3rd party might be cheating not the BOOKS

[tsty]

This was usually at Youwager but again they are at more then 1 casino. I see the limit even at the highest table is $5000 so a guy comes on betting $10000-$20000 . Grant it i only saw $20000 once but i have seen several $15000 single hands. And they always win. I think they want people to think wow if i bet heavier i can win like this guy did.

I also think some players are plants and if they know the next card they can make legitimate players lose. I have seen insane things happen like a guy hitting on a 20 which if not i would would have won a large bet because if he did not dealer would have gone Over. And it was the only time player did something like that.

The max bet on pinnacle is like 6k au and on bol it's 5k usd

those 20k bets are from different currencies from pinnacle users so it's not actually 20k

most of you need to stop commenting about stuff you clearly have no clue about

[tsty]

lol the main books these guys deal to are pinnacle/betonline

you guys are yelling cheating without even realising they don't even get a commission

one misplayed hand and now everyone is cheating

[captrobey]

This is the biggest issue I've seen. Those people who come in and bet 5-10k and have no idea how to play. I don't see how it's a real person making the bets.

This was usually at Youwager but again they are at more then 1 casino. I see the limit even at the highest table is $5000 so a guy comes on betting $10000-$20000 . Grant it i only saw $20000 once but i have seen several $15000 single hands. And they always win. I think they want people to think wow if i bet heavier i can win like this guy did.

I also think some players are plants and if they know the next card they can make legitimate players lose. I have seen insane things happen like a guy hitting on a 20 which if not i would would have won a large bet because if he did not dealer would have gone Over. And it was the only time player did something like that.

[captrobey]

Betonlines response is BS but what do you expect them to say. Easier to say Oh it was Human error then Yea we admit we were cheating . Say it is Human Error and have to reimburse one guy then have an avalanche of players want money back because they have been cheated all along if they admit otherwise.

[TheMoneyShot]

I guess if you had to play blackjack online you'd rather play this "LIVE" version... than the original software crap.
But as you clearly see... people can't even be honest during the LIVE version.

It's almost like you're playing in some underground mafia warehouse... make the rules as you go along.

[Jeffie]

It absolutely is worth to cheat . This casino is not just with Betonline they are contracted with others . I have seen this dealer at other places i play at . I am thinking Youwager but it could be Sportbet. But i have seen the same dealers more then once at different casinos.

So that has to mean this casino is contracted at different places. If a Sportsbook lets them in what would be the incentive unless they get a cut of what they get from players most likely losses. That is what i am thinking.

I have seen on live casinos insane things happen where it seems they know what the next card is. I actually saw a card dropped on the floor the other day. He picked it up and gave it to the player which was a 6 he has a face card. WTF?

I also think some of the players are plants . They come on betting insane amounts i actually saw a $20000 hand once and the guy gets a 20 . I get a 20 once every 30 hands this guy gets it on 1 hand played and all the people there are laughing you can hear them.

This is the biggest issue I've seen. Those people who come in and bet 5-10k and have no idea how to play. I don't see how it's a real person making the bets.