Just out of Curiosity, how many average bettors do you think the top 5 books have?
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Impossible to say anymoreComment -
I would guess the big books have about a thousand eachComment -
from what i understand youwager takes more action in a day than all books combined on the strip in a day...Comment -
Football---15,000------maybe 5,000 during baseball season.Comment -
Vegas is small time compared to offshore and Europe
It is why Vegas moves off offshore lines all the timeComment -
Indeed - the whole of Vegas takes something like $5bn of bets in a year.
IBCbet takes $100bn+, and bet365 about $50bn. SBObet is also huge, and there are plenty of other sizable books in Asia. Then there's Pinnacle, the various US facing books, and a whole crapload of mid sized ones in Europe.Last edited by HeeeHAWWWW; 02-01-17, 11:09 AM.Comment -
this is hard to believeComment -
I never heard of IBCbet? Are they European? What does IBC stand for?Comment -
asia bigger than allComment -
Yeah ....... but soccer is absolutely mammoth. It's the sheer volume of games: England, Spain, France, Italy, Germany - each also have cup competitions for extra matches. Then there are the regional club competitions: ECL, UEFA, S American. All these are all very large limits. Then add on the various international competitions, lower leagues, etc etc.
Then there are literally dozens of other countries with smaller limits. For example, take a match in Holland today: Nijmegen vs Eagles. I can get $50k single bet there.Comment -
much much more than a thousand IMO
it is impossible to have a precise answer but bet365 must have way over 100.000 for sure. I know Twitter is not always relevant, but look https://twitter.com/bet365 they have 357K followers and imagine how bettor who don't bother to have a Twitter account... bet365 is probably the bookmaker with the most customers though, and they need to attract every month since a lot of bettors dont last long at all!
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I think it stems from the way they grew originally: gambling is illegal in a lot of Asia, so agents in each country were a much more practical way of handling transactions. As it happens, the setup they came up with turned out to be incredibly efficient in terms of expanding the business (the company only dates from 2006!), so there's not really a reason for them to change what's working.Comment -
There are a few. Premiumtradings, Asianconnect, Eastbridge and VIPsportsbook.eu come to mind as trustworthy but I'm sure there are others. If you're from the US I believe VIPsportsbook is the only one that'll take you as a client but I'm not sure. Stay away from the smaller, shady asian ones that offer cashbacks on your losses. They all operate on very, very thin margins.Comment -
This may be a silly question but I am an American so this is all new to me, but what do these "agents" charge for this service? just to connect you to a Sportsbook? Do they charge a percentage do they charge a flat fee?Comment -
They make a commission on your turnover with the sportsbooks so they'll be happy to have you. Note the books they cater to have very little juice (reduced lines) so it's usually worth it to have an account (I'm talking Pinnacle, SBObet, Maxbet/IBCbet and some smaller ones). Don't expect any props etc though.
Most have no fees but some have a deposit fee but that is merely to offset their costs (e.g. if you deposit through Neteller, it costs them about 4% of that amount so they charge you 2% or so to offset some of it, because of their low margins). Not all do.
They'll never limit you and generally don't care if you win or lose. Most kinda like it if you win because they'll make more in commission...although it's slightly more complicated than that with some of the books they cater to, but that would take me too far.Comment -
I don't think the amount of players matter but the quality of the playersComment -
Rather than having one players that plays a 5k bet, they rather have ten players playing 500 over and over again.Comment
