Pinnacle live odds access in the US

[evo34]

Anyone here have ideas as to the most cost-effective (and legal) solution to accessing and publishing Pinnacle's live feed on a US-based sports information (non-wagering) site?

http://xml.pinnaclesports.com/pinnacleFeed.aspx no longer works. I'm wondering if there are resellers of the feed that aren't terribly expensive.

[Optional]

If you want to be legal, then it's not possible to republish it without specific permission.

Terms say you cannot "sell, rent, lease, license or publish all or any part of the Pinnacle API for profit or otherwise use in a commercial or business context that does not equate to personal use or enable others to do so"

[evo34]

Those terms are for personal users who are accessing it for free. Who knows what the terms are for resellers like DonBest, who surely pay Pinnacle for the feed and surely Pinnacle is aware they resell it.

My question is simply who are the best feed resellers. I know of SportsInsights and DonBest off-hand. Figured some people on here might know -- esp. Euro-based firms I might not know.

[Optional]

Haven't checked the donbest terms but would assume there might be a similar issue with republishing the data.

I'll link your thread to Players Talk and see if we can find someone with a suggestion.

[silfornia]

Hi, I noticed the XML feed went down today. Do you know if this is temporary or permanent? Thanks

[evo34]

Not sure. I had assumed it was permanent, but hopefully not..

[silfornia]

Thanks for letting me know. I emailed them and they didn't specifically say it was shut down, just that I could use their API for free if I had a funded acct. Which of course I don't.... that's why I'm using the non-login option...

Will update folks if I find out anything else.

[Alfa1234]

It's permanent, just got this reply after asking about reactiving it:

"Dear Client,


Thank you for your feedback. We will take this into consideration.


Unfortunately we will no longer offer this feature."

[trytrytry]

evo34 where to you want to show this info? to what non-wagering site/group?

[jjgold]

so much easier just to use live odds feeds that offer pinnacle

re sellers like Don Best too expensive as far as the xml feed

[yisman]

It'd be nice if Pinnacle would announce things like this.

The same thing happened earlier this year when they screwed up and the agents were affected. Silence.

[BuckyOne]

R U guys sold on the value of the Pinnacle numbers? I wish we had some kind of data on volume played at some of the major books. Where would Pinnacle rank on that list today? Would they still be in the top 10? top 5? Places like the Greek- Pinny - 365 concerning American sports only may not be as big an influence as we think?

Top 5? In volume-USA sports

Bookmaker
Heritage
5 dimes
DSI
Betonline

maybe Bovada - Betus gets a lot of business?

[jjgold]

All the numbers are basically the same now just use the free line service

[luctens]

Betus gets a lot of business?

Not from any smart bettors that have a fondness for not getting messed about in epic proportions. Idiots only at BetUS.

[yisman]

betus is trash

bovada is a bubble gum book and they have a bunch of states banned from using them

[rizespor]

As far as usa sports pinnacle is still probably top dog but for soccer, the asians probably do way more (sbo, ibc, singbet, dafabet, etc.)

[rizespor]

Also, xml feed is working fine here

[BuckyOne]

This day and age I wonder what the mix is like between live play and before game bets. How big a piece of the pie is it?

Perhaps, more so than the volume - the sharpness of the clientele / players that move the line is what would be valuable information. Really, hard to tell if Pinny is playing games or if sharp play is moving the line. The day might be gone that Pinny was a road map to where smart money was.

[BuckyOne]

Not from any smart bettors that have a fondness for not getting messed about in epic proportions. Idiots only at BetUS.

I realize that but we need to beat somebody square someplace. Personally, don't think Pinny or a sharp book is beatable unless the player is a really good originator and has the ability to make his own line.

[jjgold]

pinnacle top volume book basically for every major sport

[evo34]

The feed is back up.

[danger]

The feed went down again today, Dec 1st, and it may be permanent this time. Did anyone find a reseller?

[evo34]

Does SBR get its Pinnacle feed directly from Pinnacle?

[Bluehorseshoe]

All the numbers are basically the same now just use the free line service

Isn't it sad??.