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  • Optional
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    • 06-10-10
    • 60829

    #841
    Originally posted by 5mike5
    just read bitpay card is being discontinued?

    fun while it lasted
    No. Just V1SA International canned the cards issued by a European bank.

    They will just get a different provider.

    And V1SA USA is a different company.

    Should not have any effect on BitPay cards for US users, as long as they are following the rules.
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    • 5mike5
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-21-11
      • 51845

      #842
      ahhh thanks for the info opti

      just caught a story and.couldnt find it again
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      • TheMoneyShot
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        • 02-14-07
        • 28672

        #843
        There was a post earlier in this thread about how you couldn't use an exchange to fund your Bitpay card.

        I told everyone I was going to try it...

        It worked.

        Just funded the Bitpay card using Bitcoin from Gemini.com

        I don't quite understand what all the confusion was about earlier? It doesn't matter what wallet or exchange you use.... it clearly works.

        Hope this helps a few posters out.

        Good luck.
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        • TheMoneyShot
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          • 02-14-07
          • 28672

          #844
          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
          There was a post earlier in this thread about how you couldn't use an exchange to fund your Bitpay card.

          I told everyone I was going to try it...

          It worked.

          Just funded the Bitpay card using Bitcoin from Gemini.com

          I don't quite understand what all the confusion was about earlier? It doesn't matter what wallet or exchange you use.... it clearly works.

          Hope this helps a few posters out.

          Good luck.
          Just did it twice today. Gemini even pays for the fees. (30 free transactions a month)
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          • BeatTheJerk
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 08-19-07
            • 31794

            #845
            Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
            There was a post earlier in this thread about how you couldn't use an exchange to fund your Bitpay card.

            I told everyone I was going to try it...

            It worked.

            Just funded the Bitpay card using Bitcoin from Gemini.com

            I don't quite understand what all the confusion was about earlier? It doesn't matter what wallet or exchange you use.... it clearly works.

            Hope this helps a few posters out.

            Good luck.
            So that means you can sell & send money from Gemini back to Bitpay card directly ?
            Last edited by BeatTheJerk; 01-16-18, 07:52 PM.
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            • TheMoneyShot
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              • 02-14-07
              • 28672

              #846
              Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
              So that means you can sell & send money from Gemini back to Bitpay card directly ?
              There was a post earlier about how someone couldn't fund their Bitpay card for whatever reason? Had to be a specific wallet etc.

              I'm just confirming this isn't true.

              You keep it in Bitcoin.... and from Gemini just send to Bitpay. It's just like you typing in an address and sending from your wallet. The only advantage is... Gemini will pay the bitcoin networking fee for you 100%.


              For example... to pay Bitpay you need a set amount correct? So you couldn't go from sportsbook to Bitpay because when paying a Bitpay invoice you must be 100% accurate.

              Now... you could go from Sportsbook to Gemini.... and Gemini to Bitpay.. with Zero fees. (Because Gemini will cover the networking fees for you as a courtesy.) I don't know how long it will last? But remember... they are an exchange... and they could ban you.... so use wisely.
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              • littlekona
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                • 11-19-15
                • 5242

                #847
                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                Just did it twice today. Gemini even pays for the fees. (30 free transactions a month)
                When sending to Gemini Are you going direct from book to Gemini or using middle man? I’ve always just done Gemini to Bank ach for withdrawls so this is excellent news!
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                • TheMoneyShot
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 02-14-07
                  • 28672

                  #848
                  Originally posted by littlekona
                  When sending to Gemini Are you going direct from book to Gemini or using middle man? I’ve always just done Gemini to Bank ach for withdrawls so this is excellent news!
                  Did it both ways.

                  1. Book To Gemini.

                  2. Then log into Bitpay and get the invoice ready and amount.

                  3. Go to Withdrawal BTC area at Gemini and click it.

                  4. Type in the exact amount that Bitpay wants you to send.

                  5. I think Optional stated this up above or in another thread... about how Bitpay uses a protocol forcing you to Open In A Wallet? I have Electrum... let it open... and then copy Bitpay's Receiving Address and PASTE IT at Gemini. (Just cancel the wallet that it opened to begin with after you're done.)

                  You're good to go.

                  I also used my Electrum wallet directly to Gemini. Reason being.... I think Bitcoin is dead for now... I didn't want to mess around.... so I sent all my BTC to Gemini. I could either send to other books.... or to Bitpay.... or sell off... and Gemini pays for all the Bitcoin Networking fees. (You're allowed 30 free each calendar month.)
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                  • Optional
                    Administrator
                    • 06-10-10
                    • 60829

                    #849
                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                    Gemini pays for all the Bitcoin Networking fees. (You're allowed 30 free each calendar month.)
                    This still seems too good to be true.

                    I hope a few people have seen you posting about this. I should mention it more often too when people ask about exchanges. it's a huge benefit.
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                    • craigpb
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 06-19-08
                      • 699

                      #850
                      You do not have to use their payment protocol wallets; can just use a decoder somebody posted here. It spits out the regular bitcoin address that you are used to when you send to Bitpay card. Used it with my blockchain wallet. Unfortunately no way to get around their ridiculous network fee.
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                      • TheMoneyShot
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                        • 02-14-07
                        • 28672

                        #851
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        This still seems too good to be true.

                        I hope a few people have seen you posting about this. I should mention it more often too when people ask about exchanges. it's a huge benefit.
                        The craziness yesterday because everyone was selling off.... networking fees to get confirmed in under 30 minutes were around $30-$35

                        Gemini always pays for the FIRST BLOCK for all of their customers. I sent 2 transactions yesterday... and Gemini paid $65.00 for both.

                        I'm surprised Gemini hasn't stopped this yet? They have to be losing their a$$? But, you have to give them credit... they want your business at the exchange.
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                        • icon
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-09-18
                          • 3404

                          #852
                          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                          The craziness yesterday because everyone was selling off.... networking fees to get confirmed in under 30 minutes were around $30-$35

                          Gemini always pays for the FIRST BLOCK for all of their customers. I sent 2 transactions yesterday... and Gemini paid $65.00 for both.

                          I'm surprised Gemini hasn't stopped this yet? They have to be losing their a$$? But, you have to give them credit... they want your business at the exchange.
                          They probably batched the transactions to save on fees.
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                          • TheMoneyShot
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 02-14-07
                            • 28672

                            #853
                            Originally posted by icon
                            They probably batched the transactions to save on fees.
                            I believe they do. But they don't delay much time.... it's posted on the network within 30 seconds. It still confirms ONCE in the FIRST BLOCK no matter what. For additional confirmations... might take 10-15 more minutes.
                            Last edited by TheMoneyShot; 01-17-18, 10:08 PM.
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                            • littlekona
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-19-15
                              • 5242

                              #854
                              Originally posted by icon
                              They probably batched the transactions to save on fees.
                              So I wonder how we can do that...lets say I want to send funds to a few different books. Can I batch the transactions and How if yes?
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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 60829

                                #855
                                Originally posted by littlekona

                                So I wonder how we can do that...lets say I want to send funds to a few different books. Can I batch the transactions and How if yes?
                                With Electrum wallet it's a simple matter of adding extra lines to the payment address box. Or importing a spreadsheet file if there are a lot.



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                                • littlekona
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                                  • 11-19-15
                                  • 5242

                                  #856
                                  Cool tyvm....ill try... i have it on my windows desktop..i cant seem to figure out how to load on my ipad though electrum...link i find have zip files that wont open...any ideas
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                                  • daveydips
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 12-13-15
                                    • 45

                                    #857
                                    i did a load direct from the waves platform earlier, everything went thru in 5 minutes.. I think the one problem that could occur by not using a protocol wallet/address is if you over send and they have to issue a refund.. if you send from an exchange direct, im not quite sure that your withdrawl sending address is the same as a deposit address.. if they were to issue a refund, who knows where it ends up, i doubt you'd be able to access it
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                                    • TheMoneyShot
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 02-14-07
                                      • 28672

                                      #858
                                      Originally posted by littlekona
                                      So I wonder how we can do that...lets say I want to send funds to a few different books. Can I batch the transactions and How if yes?
                                      Blockchain wallet you use to be able to. They took it out of the programming about a year ago. It was a nice feature. I emailed customer support asking them why... and they responded with... "Managements decision".
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                                      • BeatTheJerk
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                                        • 08-19-07
                                        • 31794

                                        #859
                                        Bump for personal reasons. I'd like to think the posters in here that have created a pipeline for withdraws regarding Bitpay. Been following this thread since mid-2016 when I was betting pro.
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                                        • Roscoe_Word
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-28-12
                                          • 3999

                                          #860
                                          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                          Blockchain wallet you use to be able to. They took it out of the programming about a year ago. It was a nice feature. I emailed customer support asking them why...
                                          and they responded with... "Managements decision"
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                                          Sounds like a Bill Belichick response.
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                                          • ParlayKing1986
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 06-02-12
                                            • 278

                                            #861
                                            Did bitpay get rid of the option to copy the address just now? Was using the decoder to bypass the wallet but now the option to copy is gone.
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 60829

                                              #862
                                              Originally posted by ParlayKing1986
                                              Did bitpay get rid of the option to copy the address just now? Was using the decoder to bypass the wallet but now the option to copy is gone.
                                              You could just take 1 minute to download a compatible wallet and stop trying to get around their system!
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                                              • ParlayKing1986
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 06-02-12
                                                • 278

                                                #863
                                                Have a wallet.. but it was working and it took away an unnecessary fee ...but thanks for the input!
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                                                • TheMoneyShot
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 02-14-07
                                                  • 28672

                                                  #864
                                                  Originally posted by ParlayKing1986
                                                  Have a wallet.. but it was working and it took away an unnecessary fee ...but thanks for the input!
                                                  I use Electrum for Bitpay. Works like a charm.
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                                                  • ClippersSux
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 12-10-10
                                                    • 95

                                                    #865
                                                    Is there a fee when you load the card with bitcoin and it's converted to USD?
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                                                    • convick
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-03-11
                                                      • 3954

                                                      #866
                                                      Originally posted by ClippersSux
                                                      Is there a fee when you load the card with bitcoin and it's converted to USD?
                                                      Yes. A network fee plus miner/transaction fees. They've been fairly low since late January.
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                                                      • Optional
                                                        Administrator
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 60829

                                                        #867
                                                        Originally posted by ClippersSux
                                                        Is there a fee when you load the card with bitcoin and it's converted to USD?
                                                        Originally posted by convick

                                                        Yes. A network fee plus miner/transaction fees. They've been fairly low since late January.
                                                        There is no actual fee from Bitpay for loading, but what is usually more important when dealing with any business that does the exchanging for you is what reference exchange rate they use and if they add any sort of premium on to that.

                                                        I can only go off what US users post as I am a foreigner, but over the 25 pages of this thread almost no one has complained about the exchange rate or amount they end up credited with.
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                                                        • littlekona
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                                                          • 11-19-15
                                                          • 5242

                                                          #868
                                                          Originally posted by Optional
                                                          There is no actual fee from Bitpay for loading, but what is usually more important when dealing with any business that does the exchanging for you is what reference exchange rate they use and if they add any sort of premium on to that.

                                                          I can only go off what US users post as I am a foreigner, but over the 25 pages of this thread almost no one has complained about the exchange rate or amount they end up credited with.

                                                          there is a tiny fee right now on top of miners fees...it was significant back when network was congested but back down now to 0.000014 BTC Now
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                                                          • Optional
                                                            Administrator
                                                            • 06-10-10
                                                            • 60829

                                                            #869
                                                            Originally posted by littlekona


                                                            there is a tiny fee right now on top of miners fees...it was significant back when network was congested but back down now to 0.000014 BTC Now
                                                            https://support.bitpay.com/hc/en-us/...itPay-Invoice-
                                                            oh yeah. I forgot about that consolidation fee
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                                                            • TheToffer
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 02-16-18
                                                              • 501

                                                              #870
                                                              Got my bitpay card today and took it for a spin. Transfered a few bucks to it. It was quick and easy!

                                                              Bye-bye coinbase and your fees...hello gemini and bitpay debit card!
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                                                              • illiteratepotato
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 11-02-17
                                                                • 41

                                                                #871
                                                                bitcoin miner fees are beginning to climb again. I saw $2 suggested fee on one of my wallets. if the bitcoin cash team is responsible for this surge then it means they will pump bitcoin cash at the same time. those of us that use bitcoin cash already will never see fees past $1 ever. strap in folks.
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                                                                • Optional
                                                                  Administrator
                                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                                  • 60829

                                                                  #872
                                                                  Originally posted by illiteratepotato
                                                                  bitcoin miner fees are beginning to climb again. I saw $2 suggested fee on one of my wallets. if the bitcoin cash team is responsible for this surge then it means they will pump bitcoin cash at the same time. those of us that use bitcoin cash already will never see fees past $1 ever. strap in folks.
                                                                  I paid 67 cents for a "priority" send by blockchain wallets reckoning yesterday. Took about 10 mins for confirmation.
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                                                                  • mandy2424
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 01-10-15
                                                                    • 32

                                                                    #873
                                                                    Anyone else experiencing delays in your BitPay card having the money available on it?

                                                                    Usually is available within minutes when you transfer from the bitpay wallet.....
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                                                                    • littlekona
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 11-19-15
                                                                      • 5242

                                                                      #874
                                                                      Originally posted by mandy2424
                                                                      Anyone else experiencing delays in your BitPay card having the money available on it?

                                                                      Usually is available within minutes when you transfer from the bitpay wallet.....
                                                                      Not sure why but network miners fees have went up significantly over the last 24 hours...that has brought a longer confirmation times of lower fee transactions..
                                                                      Predicting bitcoin fees for transactions. Fees are displayed in Satoshis/byte of data. Miners usually include transactions with the highest fees first.
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                                                                      • themike78
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 07-01-13
                                                                        • 4873

                                                                        #875
                                                                        It seems to be going up and down lately with fees. All day today blockchain was showing 20000 unconfirmed. I waited 18 hours for a transaction to go through. Right now 1000 unconfirmed just had a transaction go through with a low fee in 5 minutes. This is what sucks about bitcoin. They can't seem to make up their mind how much a transaction should cost. It's like playing the dam lottery in how long you want to wait and what you have to pay.
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