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  • Virgin
    SBR Rookie
    • 09-18-15
    • 7

    #1
    Intertops Refusing To Pay
    Hi All,

    Long time lurker, first time poster here.

    I am UK player and have held an account at Intertops for quite a while, as I liked to bet on golf and tennis set betting and their limits were attractive. I had mixed success, but my stakes were limited when I withdrew money. No big deal, it happens at just about every book in the end.

    I got paid the bulk of my balance and left a smallish amount in to play with. Tried to log in the other day and wasn't allowed, as they've changed their rules on allowed territories. I emailed to ask them to send the rest of my money and their replies are as follows:

    Email 1

    We regret to advise that due to regulation changes in your location, we are not able to accept players from the United Kingdom at this time; therefore, your account was disabled as per management. Hopefully this information is helpful.

    Email 2

    If you desire arrangements can be made with the payments department in regards to the possibility of having the balance sent to you.

    Email 3

    At this time, an update is not yet available to your account, however, as soon as a time frame is available you will be notified with all specifics.

    Anyone know what's going on here? Fair enough if they don't want UK players, but surely they should be willing to pay balances back?

    Many thanks
  • Steamroller
    SBR MVP
    • 11-30-12
    • 1003

    #2
    I'm from Finland and they have been verifying my documents for almost 4 days by now! Most bookmakers does it in 15 minutes. How long did it take for you?
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    • SBR Forum
      Administrator
      • 12-02-06
      • 4559

      #3
      Hi Virgin,

      Thanks for sharing.

      Please submit a complaint form.
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      • Virgin
        SBR Rookie
        • 09-18-15
        • 7

        #4
        I verified mine a few months ago, so thankfully haven't had to do so again. I'm happy to show some patience, but being paid being a "possibility" and an indefinite wait for information is not encouraging.
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        • shaunovery
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-15-07
          • 18143

          #5
          Sign of the times uk players had it so good for years ,

          Now we are in trouble to find good offshore books
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          • Steamroller
            SBR MVP
            • 11-30-12
            • 1003

            #6
            Ok they just verified my documents as they promised earlier today.
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            • Steamroller
              SBR MVP
              • 11-30-12
              • 1003

              #7
              Originally posted by shaunovery
              Sign of the times uk players had it so good for years ,

              Now we are in trouble to find good offshore books
              What is the reason behind that?
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              • shaunovery
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-15-07
                • 18143

                #8
                Originally posted by Steamroller
                What is the reason behind that?
                New rules

                Uk players currently not allowed at pinny , 5d and possible the Greek soon
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                • Steamroller
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-30-12
                  • 1003

                  #9
                  Originally posted by shaunovery
                  New rules

                  Uk players currently not allowed at pinny , 5d and possible the Greek soon
                  Where do u need offshore books anyway? Just use Bet365 that's all you need.
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                  • shaunovery
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-15-07
                    • 18143

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Steamroller
                    Where do u need offshore books anyway? Just use Bet365 that's all you need.
                    Got limited there after winning 25k
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                    • Steamroller
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-30-12
                      • 1003

                      #11
                      Originally posted by shaunovery
                      Got limited there after winning 25k
                      Wow how does people win so much. You play with 1k stakes or something?
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                      • Kindred
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-09-08
                        • 2901

                        #12
                        They are like the first online book, or close too it. You don't have to worry about them disappearing like a fart in the wind like some fly by night scam books. That being said why did you play there when you aren't in the U.S. and restricted on what books will accept your business. I'd think there are plenty of options that would suit your needs besides Intertops.
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                        • shaunovery
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-15-07
                          • 18143

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Steamroller
                          Wow how does people win so much. You play with 1k stakes or something?
                          No not really betting nascar and futures so they limited me
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            settle down

                            Intertops strong book

                            They do not want your money guy
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                            • Virgin
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 09-18-15
                              • 7

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Kindred
                              They are like the first online book, or close too it. You don't have to worry about them disappearing like a fart in the wind like some fly by night scam books. That being said why did you play there when you aren't in the U.S. and restricted on what books will accept your business. I'd think there are plenty of options that would suit your needs besides Intertops.
                              I'm not worried about them disappearing, but I want to be paid. Not an unreasonable request.

                              I've already said that they have good limits and competitive odds on set betting (especially where there's a heavy favourite and you want to bet the 3-1 and 3-2 lines) and that the golf limits are good. At most of the UK books, there's a win limit of, say, £5,000 and I like to bet morethan £50 on a 100/1 shot sometimes.

                              Thanks for the reply, SBR. I'll file a complaint.
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                              • Camzith
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 09-21-15
                                • 4

                                #16
                                I have problem with Intertops too. I opened an account in July, played little bit, they asked documents, a lot of times to check but everything was ok ...

                                One month after I want to log in and impossible. I mailed the support to ask and they answered:

                                After carefully reviewing your credentials a managerial decision has been made and your Intertops account has been closed. This decision is non-negotiable and any further correspondence will be ignored. We reserve the right to cancel/close any account as stated in our Terms and Conditions and to revoke any decisions made prior without notification or clarification.

                                I made maybe only 3 bets on it and they close without reasons and without inform the client, I have to ask why I can't log in anymore to know that my account is closed.

                                I still had more than 200e on it, they didn't pay out, I made a complaint on sbr.
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                                • Intertops SB
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 04-22-11
                                  • 26

                                  #17
                                  Dear Virgin and Camzith,

                                  thank you for sharing your troubles with Intertops in this thread. We are very sorry to hear that you had such bad experiences with Intertops lately.
                                  Please send us a PM with your Username and we will be more than happy to see what went wrong here and to find a quick solution in these matters.

                                  Best regards,
                                  Your Intertops Sportsbook Team
                                  Last edited by Intertops SB; 09-21-15, 07:48 AM.
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65511

                                    #18
                                    ^
                                    way to step up intertops
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                                    • Camzith
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 09-21-15
                                      • 4

                                      #19
                                      Hello mate,

                                      I can't send a pm because I need more than 40 messages in the forum and I'm new (even I read a lot the forum). I post my nickname here: Mikethebike2

                                      Regards
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                                      • Intertops SB
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 04-22-11
                                        • 26

                                        #20
                                        Thank you! We will have a look at your account and will then contact you via e-mail.

                                        Best regards,
                                        Your Intertops Sportsbook Team
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                                        • Steamroller
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-30-12
                                          • 1003

                                          #21
                                          I wish Intertops had faster payouts. You have to wait 48 hours before they process it. If you decide to cancel the payout it takes 48 hours as well ^^
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                                          • Fitz030808
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 11-23-11
                                            • 383

                                            #22
                                            I wouldnt complain about the payout timeframe. You shoukd check the sportsbook.ag thread. Those people are waiting months.
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                                            • Steamroller
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-30-12
                                              • 1003

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Fitz030808
                                              I wouldnt complain about the payout timeframe. You shoukd check the sportsbook.ag thread. Those people are waiting months.
                                              Yes i quess i'm always a bit impatient.
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                                              • Virgin
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 09-18-15
                                                • 7

                                                #24
                                                I am also unable to send PMs until my post count reaches 40, but you are welcome to liaise with SBR to find out my details. I have filed a complaint with SBR and so am happy for you to discuss the matter with them.

                                                I appreciate you posting on the thread. Maybe you could explain to everyone why UK accounts are being arbitrarily closed and why vague answers about whether people will receive their funds at all are being given? It should be taken as read that, if you are closing accounts and want no further business from them, you return the funds to source. Why I have to go through all of this just to get my money back is beyond me.
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                                                • Camzith
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 09-21-15
                                                  • 4

                                                  #25
                                                  I've finally received my money but this is not normal that I have to post here to solve the problem. The website is not professionnal and doesn't deserve a B+ mark here.

                                                  Btw thanks for the help.
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                                                  • Intertops SB
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 04-22-11
                                                    • 26

                                                    #26
                                                    Hi Virgin,

                                                    we have not yet received the complaint from SBR until now, but once we do, we will do our best to resolve this issue immediately.
                                                    The decision to no longer accept players from the UK was made by the management. I understand that this decision might upset people from the UK, but unfortunately this decision stands and will not be revoked for now.

                                                    The procedure for withdrawing funds of these closed UK accounts is very clear and should be made clear by our customer service staff when being contacted by one of the affected customers.
                                                    Every UK customer can withdraw the remaining funds from their account at any time. Should there be any pending bets in the account, any winning bet can be withdrawn once the bet has been processed.

                                                    I truly apologize if you haven't received satisfying answers to your questions when in contact with our customer service.

                                                    I hope this cleared things up a bit and that your issue will be resolved asap.


                                                    @Camzith: I am glad that your issue has been resolved now.
                                                    When I contacted the relevant department, I was told that your query was already being worked on, so the resolving of your query did have nothing to do with you posting here, it simply went through the standardized procedures that need to be followed in cases like yours.
                                                    I am sorry to hear that you have the impression that Intertops is not professional. I can assure you, that we always have and always will do our best to satisfy our customers and to improve the betting experience, as well as the payments procedures and any other procedures within the company, that's why feedback like yours and Virgin's is so important to us.

                                                    Thank you,
                                                    best regards,

                                                    Your Intertops Sportsbook Team
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                                                    • pinnerpsk
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-16-09
                                                      • 1687

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Camzith
                                                      I have problem with Intertops too. I opened an account in July, played little bit, they asked documents, a lot of times to check but everything was ok ...

                                                      One month after I want to log in and impossible. I mailed the support to ask and they answered:

                                                      After carefully reviewing your credentials a managerial decision has been made and your Intertops account has been closed.This decision is non-negotiable and any further correspondence will be ignored. We reserve the right to cancel/close any account as stated in our Terms and Conditions and to revoke any decisions made prior without notification or clarification.

                                                      I made maybe only 3 bets on it and they close without reasons and without inform the client, I have to ask why I can't log in anymore to know that my account is closed.

                                                      I still had more than 200e on it, they didn't pay out, I made a complaint on sbr.



                                                      What the hell? What's wrong with this company?
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                                                      • Virgin
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 09-18-15
                                                        • 7

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Intertops SB
                                                        I understand that this decision might upset people from the UK, but unfortunately this decision stands and will not be revoked for now.
                                                        Nope. The upsetting part is the closure of accounts without proper procedures in place to ensure that your customers are paid.

                                                        Originally posted by Intertops SB
                                                        The procedure for withdrawing funds of these closed UK accounts is very clear and should be made clear by our customer service staff when being contacted by one of the affected customers.
                                                        Every UK customer can withdraw the remaining funds from their account at any time.
                                                        Okay. It certainly wasn't made clear. And it's difficult to withdraw your funds when you can't log in to your account and CS pretty much tells you to whistle for your money. Why not go through the UK accounts and proactively contact people to tell them to withdraw their money? A proper book would do just this.
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                                                        • SBR Forum
                                                          Administrator
                                                          • 12-02-06
                                                          • 4559

                                                          #29
                                                          Update: A manager with Intertops has confirmed the player will be contacted today with steps to withdraw balance.

                                                          Thanks for sharing. We've asked a manager with Intertops about this complaint and the process of users who are no longer welcomed due to country restrictions being able to withdraw/notified.

                                                          Please let us know if you have any issues taking out the balance from here, sounds like you simply got a bad answer originally.
                                                          Last edited by SBR Forum; 09-24-15, 08:52 AM. Reason: added update
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                                                          • CWD
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-22-12
                                                            • 7665

                                                            #30
                                                            since we're on topic of intertops whats the deal with their bonus program? what a year ago would get you 3000 points now the same bet now gets you in 200 range. its almost pointless to run the program if these so called changes they made are for everyone? i emailed and received several form emails and no answers if the changes were just for me or for everyone.

                                                            not that its that big a deal but they never announced or posted they were changing the structure for me, only reason i realized i was stuck in same spots after a couple months of decent wagering. the pace my account is on in their new structure its insulting to even offer it.
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                                                            • ronald
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-31-05
                                                              • 4918

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Steamroller
                                                              Where do u need offshore books anyway? Just use Bet365 that's all you need.
                                                              Anyone with half a clue gets limited or banned at Bet365.
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                                                              • shaunovery
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-15-07
                                                                • 18143

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ronald
                                                                Anyone with half a clue gets limited or banned at Bet365.
                                                                Exactly
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                                                                • sshz
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 06-02-15
                                                                  • 575

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I haven't played at Intertops for years now because during my last withdrawal, my bank (BkofAma) refused to cash their check. Intertops refused to do anything about it and offered no solutions so I left to my happy valley with Youwager/Betpop where I always get paid within 4-5 days with no bullshit!
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                                                                  • Bill Dozer
                                                                    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                                    • 07-12-05
                                                                    • 10894

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Do we still have UK posters waiting for their funds?
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                                                                    • Virgin
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 09-18-15
                                                                      • 7

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Just to update the thread, I have now been paid. I wasn't contacted to discuss withdrawal methods and was sent the money through the same method that I previously used, although this was fine by me and I was happy to just get the money.

                                                                      Thanks to all for comments/assistance.
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