Size, Volume, Profit of Offshore Big Dogs?

[3runhomer]

So me and a few buddies were talking about the big offshore books...and started debating how big they are, the type of profits they realize, etc...

Obviously, most any answers will be conjecture...but I was wondering what others thought?

And I'm sticking mainly to the top rated books...(5D, Heritage, Pinnacle, Bookmaker)

Any thoughts?

[Optional]

Pinnacle would handle in the billions annually I think.

The others some fraction of that.

[Buffalo Nickle]

I saw that Bodog did $8 billion in wagers last year and that was outside the US. The others were bigger.

BWin just sold for $1 billion.

I don't know what it is but it is big. Much bigger than I ever imagined.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

IBCbet supposedly had $50 billion turnover a few years back. SBO would be even bigger I guess. Pinnacle, no idea.

Edit: guesstimate here from 2012 says "the two biggest" (ie ibc+sbo) turn over $2bn/week, ie $104bn a year together

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/mar/09/fifa-footballpolitics

Edit2: different reporting of same estimate says they're at $2bn _each_

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-08-05/world-cup-gambling-hub-lands-ambassador-in-vegas-court

[jjgold]

Pinnacle volume way down..lost way too much American business and that is where majority of sports betting market is for them

Check juice..it widens every year

[3runhomer]

JJ, so what about a shop like 5Dimes, which is all American bettors...what type of profits are they running through weekly?

[HeeeHAWWWW]

http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-80362919.html

It's in German, but the key bit is that they have an interview with the big cheese from IBCbet, and he says they turned over $45 billion in 2010, with a net profit of $300m (0.67%).