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  • YanniAhhh248
    SBR Rookie
    • 12-24-14
    • 9

    #1
    Americas Bookie Complaint
    Below are the last four bets I placed, how does my balance equal 16? They can't explain anything to me, they just say everything was graded correctly.

    INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 30440621
    Dec 23 07:57 PM
    CFB STRAIGHT BET
    [2213] TOTAL o34-115
    (2H NO ILLINOIS vrs 2H MARSHALL)
    143 / 124 124 WIN
    WIN
    12/23/2014 07:45 PM
    INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 30448330
    Dec 23 10:11 PM
    CBB STRAIGHT BET
    [741] TOTAL o131-110
    (ARIZONA vrs UNLV)
    100 / 90 90 WIN
    WIN
    12/23/2014 09:44 PM
    INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 30449835
    Dec 23 11:59 PM
    CFB STRAIGHT BET
    [9215] TOTAL o55½-141
    (NAVY - LIVE vrs SAN DIEGO ST - LIVE)
    83 / 58 -83 LOSE
    LOSE
    12/23/2014 10:16 PM
    INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 30449836
    Dec 23 11:59 PM
    CFB STRAIGHT BET
    [9216] SAN DIEGO ST - LIVE -4½+106
    83 / 87 -83 LOSE
    LOSE
    12/23/2014 10:16 PM
  • temple2010
    SBR MVP
    • 03-16-10
    • 1369

    #2
    tell them to buy a new calculator or go back to 1st grade math class.
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    • YanniAhhh248
      SBR Rookie
      • 12-24-14
      • 9

      #3
      Formal complaint has been submitted, if you could please get me information.

      Has anyone else had issues with this book?
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      • sourtwist
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-10-12
        • 9364

        #4
        What did they say when you called them
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        • sourtwist
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-10-12
          • 9364

          #5
          Provide more details then maybe some math can be done. You're not giving all pieces necessary
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          • YanniAhhh248
            SBR Rookie
            • 12-24-14
            • 9

            #6
            I had 267 from the top bet, placed the three following bets for the remainder of my balance, except $1 that I guess I didn't bet. They put the $15 in fees from my ** deposit that day in my account, bringing the balance to $16.

            267 + 190 - 83 - 83 + 15 (** Fee) doesn't equal 16, or zero over the bets.
            Last edited by YanniAhhh248; 12-24-14, 03:51 PM. Reason: 237 should be 267
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            • owen333
              SBR Rookie
              • 12-24-14
              • 2

              #7
              The details are: ...He made a deposit played his money and lost, there is a bit more to his history than showed above, his account was down to $1 and then he was credited his deposit fees which were 15 so that leaves a balance of $16, he forgot to tell you all that he also place a 2 team parlay with the 16 that was loosing and called back to say he didn't place that wager as well. I let the player know it is my pleasure to assist him with any faults made, I also sent his info up to the stage to be re evaluated in which the same result was given.
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              • sourtwist
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-10-12
                • 9364

                #8
                Im not surprised by your post owen....he didnt make any sense and didnt give all necessary details anyway.
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                • Jnas
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-26-10
                  • 760

                  #9
                  yanni = another broke ass scammer

                  lose with dignity fella
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                  • frankzig
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-26-09
                    • 2268

                    #10
                    Originally posted by owen333
                    The details are: ...He made a deposit played his money and lost, there is a bit more to his history than showed above, his account was down to $1 and then he was credited his deposit fees which were 15 so that leaves a balance of $16, he forgot to tell you all that he also place a 2 team parlay with the 16 that was loosing and called back to say he didn't place that wager as well. I let the player know it is my pleasure to assist him with any faults made, I also sent his info up to the stage to be re evaluated in which the same result was given.

                    Owen always glad to help and on point
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                    • temple2010
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-16-10
                      • 1369

                      #11
                      Did seem a little bit odd. Americas Bookie paid me in less than a week and mid 4 figs so no complaint here, and it was in less than a week.
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                      • YanniAhhh248
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 12-24-14
                        • 9

                        #12
                        I didn't call back to cancel the $16 wager, the 1st half over was already covered with 5 minutes to play when I was on the phone with you. Hence the reason that 16 is now 108, and about to be 200. You are a mid tier book at best, with your parlay limits and rules (no soccer), and amateur website.

                        Those of you calling me broke, you don't know me. SBR has full access to review.
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                        • shopp
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 01-14-14
                          • 114

                          #13
                          Bubble gum book. What do you expect???
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                          • YanniAhhh248
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 12-24-14
                            • 9

                            #14
                            When asked why their book received such a poor rating from SBR, he responded that their book doesn't pay the SBR "scam" to get a good rating, like all the top rated books on this site. Also, that the A-Rated books on this site are typically the ones that have issues. What a joke...
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                            • YanniAhhh248
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 12-24-14
                              • 9

                              #15
                              Originally posted by shopp
                              Bubble gum book. What do you expect???
                              It was the first book with CS ran by American's, and they have been calling me for last two years wanting me to deposit like I've been playing there for decades. Not sure who they paid for my info, but explains why their parent company have had complaints regarding stealing players.
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                              • Acedeuce
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 12-22-14
                                • 794

                                #16
                                Originally posted by YanniAhhh248
                                When asked why their book received such a poor rating from SBR, he responded that their book doesn't pay the SBR "scam" to get a good rating, like all the top rated books on this site. Also, that the A-Rated books on this site are typically the ones that have issues. What a joke...
                                Too funny
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 61356

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by YanniAhhh248
                                  I had 267 from the top bet, placed the three following bets for the remainder of my balance, except $1 that I guess I didn't bet. They put the $15 in fees from my ** deposit that day in my account, bringing the balance to $16.

                                  267 + 190 - 83 - 83 + 15 (** Fee) doesn't equal 16, or zero over the bets.
                                  Originally posted by owen333
                                  The details are: ...He made a deposit played his money and lost, there is a bit more to his history than showed above, his account was down to $1 and then he was credited his deposit fees which were 15 so that leaves a balance of $16, he forgot to tell you all that he also place a 2 team parlay with the 16 that was loosing and called back to say he didn't place that wager as well. I let the player know it is my pleasure to assist him with any faults made, I also sent his info up to the stage to be re evaluated in which the same result was given.

                                  Both of you sound like you are only telling half the story.
                                  .
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                                  • YanniAhhh248
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 12-24-14
                                    • 9

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                    Both of you sound like you are only telling half the story.
                                    I'm telling the part of the story that matters, how my final four bets come out to 0, leaving my account balance at $16. I have given you access to review the account in full, you will see where my complaint is coming from if you bother to look, simple 3rd grade math.

                                    If you believe the sports book is telling half the story, that should be a red flag to review.... Just saying.
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                                    • robmpink
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-09-07
                                      • 13205

                                      #19
                                      I like Americas Bookie.

                                      I disagree with the fella who said this guy is a scammer. It isn't impossible, but don't think someone would waste their time or effort with this if they really don't think there should be a balance.

                                      The fella is either slow or his balance was miscalculated.

                                      If he is slow, I'm sure he will see where the math adds up. If it is a system miscalculation, it happens sometimes.
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                                      • robmpink
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-09-07
                                        • 13205

                                        #20
                                        I didn't like the extra comments he added though. That seems like sour grapes and irrelevant to his claim.
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                                        • darkhat
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 08-18-10
                                          • 5722

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by YanniAhhh248
                                          When asked why their book received such a poor rating from SBR, he responded that their book doesn't pay the SBR "scam" to get a good rating, like all the top rated books on this site. Also, that the A-Rated books on this site are typically the ones that have issues. What a joke...
                                          This is a very old and misunderstood belief that gets repeated without much understanding.

                                          The majority of A rated books on SBR are without a doubt the safest books in the industry. Heritage, bookmaker, 5Dimes, Pinnacle, bet365 are clearly some of the safest books in the industry. When SBR has a book rated A or F they are usually right. It's B-D that they sometimes don't get right.
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                                          • Ironman07
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 05-16-10
                                            • 615

                                            #22
                                            ive used Americas bookie as a side book for many years and found them to be more reliable than the so called A books here. They dont deserve the rating they have in my opinion. Did they get blacklisted for not paying of SBR? Don't know but its always a possibility. Use your own judgement and never keep large amounts anywhere,,
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                                            • trytrytry
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-13-06
                                              • 23649

                                              #23
                                              Americas bookie is one of the top 3 books for USA post up players now looking for service, fast payouts with a smile., lots of opinions on lines making winning a formality well some days anyway , lots of line combinations and a person (OWEN) in customer service actually on and around multiple forums to help and assist. They also give away lots of things in forum contests, prizes, free plays for the forum crowds, look around some, if your not posted up at this book and you carry more than 2 books you are missing out... very few if any books right now have all of that... the SBr rating given is the only agenda driven black eye SBR has right now imo.....
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                                              • temple2010
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-16-10
                                                • 1369

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by trytrytry
                                                Americas bookie is one of the top 3 books for USA post up players now looking for service, fast payouts with a smile., lots of opinions on lines making winning a formality well some days anyway , lots of line combinations and a person (OWEN) in customer service actually on and around multiple forums to help and assist. They also give away lots of things in forum contests, prizes, free plays for the forum crowds, look around some, if your not posted up at this book and you carry more than 2 books you are missing out... very few if any books right now have all of that... the SBr rating given is the only agenda driven black eye SBR has right now imo.....
                                                I couldn't agree more!
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                                                • Ted Sheckler
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-08-14
                                                  • 1936

                                                  #25
                                                  Americas bookie one of the worst book for calling you. I have no account there, somehow get multiple calls from them. 1 vice tops the list though, betDSI (only book I had account with) used to call/email all the time, finally think I've blocked every number of theirs, or they got the point.
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                                                  • Fitz030808
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 11-23-11
                                                    • 383

                                                    #26
                                                    I think claiming theyre a top 3 book for US players might be a little much. I'm sure they're a great smaller shop but saying they're better than 5Dimes, Heritage, Bookmaker, or Youwager might be a little much. I'm glad they're paying and many like them though.
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                                                    • Triumph
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-18-12
                                                      • 1235

                                                      #27
                                                      Americas bookie is a joke, they slashed my parlay limit to $100 max.
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                                                      • InsiderHer
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 12-18-12
                                                        • 331

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by trytrytry
                                                        americas bookie is one of the top 3 books for usa post up players now looking for service, fast payouts with a smile., lots of opinions on lines making winning a formality well some days anyway , lots of line combinations and a person (owen) in customer service actually on and around multiple forums to help and assist. They also give away lots of things in forum contests, prizes, free plays for the forum crowds, look around some, if your not posted up at this book and you carry more than 2 books you are missing out... Very few if any books right now have all of that... The sbr rating given is the only agenda driven black eye sbr has right now imo.....
                                                        apex...
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                                                        • DISTROYA
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-26-12
                                                          • 2911

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by YanniAhhh248
                                                          It was the first book with CS ran by American's, and they have been calling me for last two years wanting me to deposit like I've been playing there for decades. Not sure who they paid for my info, but explains why their parent company have had complaints regarding stealing players.
                                                          Ditto. Won't stop fukking calling me after 10000 requests to fcuk off
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                                                          • mtneer1212
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-22-08
                                                            • 4993

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by trytrytry
                                                            Americas bookie is one of the top 3 books for USA post up players now looking for service, fast payouts with a smile., lots of opinions on lines making winning a formality well some days anyway , lots of line combinations and a person (OWEN) in customer service actually on and around multiple forums to help and assist. They also give away lots of things in forum contests, prizes, free plays for the forum crowds, look around some, if your not posted up at this book and you carry more than 2 books you are missing out... very few if any books right now have all of that... the SBr rating given is the only agenda driven black eye SBR has right now imo.....
                                                            So was BetIslands. Cheers! They are great until they aren't.
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                                                            • shopp
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 01-14-14
                                                              • 114

                                                              #31
                                                              This is not a top 3 book.

                                                              They booted me after winning about 4k. Then instead of a sending me a check, they sent p2p payments and gouged me with fees. Then would send the incorrect amount make me call 5 times to get it corrected and then charge me the fees on the extra payout when it was their mistake. I would be very concerned if you played there and won a decent amount of money.
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                                                              • Triumph
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-18-12
                                                                • 1235

                                                                #32
                                                                Top 3 book lol they shut me down for winning $2000
                                                                then told me I could play there with a 24X roll
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                                                                • DISTROYA
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-26-12
                                                                  • 2911

                                                                  #33
                                                                  yeah it seems the consensus that its not a good joint if you plan on winning
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                                                                  • BIG
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 07-29-09
                                                                    • 694

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by robmpink
                                                                    I like Americas Bookie.

                                                                    I disagree with the fella who said this guy is a scammer. It isn't impossible, but don't think someone would waste their time or effort with this if they really don't think there should be a balance.

                                                                    The fella is either slow or his balance was miscalculated.

                                                                    If he is slow, I'm sure he will see where the math adds up. If it is a system miscalculation, it happens sometimes.
                                                                    hmmm sorry im way late reading this but I saw Americas bookie and this was a smart post. I was with them for a long time and never had no problems until 1 time lol. Props to them whenever I needed a payout I got paid except one time They went from I didnt reach my rollover to for about 4 days straight they said the whole island is shut down for something but they told me each day leading me on thinking I would bet and not even ** or money gram was open, I was laughing my ass off. Other than that it was a good book to me but now I cant pass 5dimes up. 1... I like if bets 2... I know 100% im getting paid, its best American book period hands down.
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                                                                    • BIG
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 07-29-09
                                                                      • 694

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Fitz030808
                                                                      I think claiming theyre a top 3 book for US players might be a little much. I'm sure they're a great smaller shop but saying they're better than 5Dimes, Heritage, Bookmaker, or Youwager might be a little much. I'm glad they're paying and many like them though.

                                                                      I agree they couldnt touch the books you mentioned nuts... I played with them for awhile because of the bonus but you can see me post about them in a different one.
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